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IN: Yes, I use to fly pigeons I use to fly all kinds like use to had ah ah Tiplet ah we use to get a couple of Clinkers in it take them up the roof and break they neck or throw em down the roof or sometime we use to just catch um and we use to eat em, Yeah, we use to put them in hot wate r and you see they neck wobble, Right, we use to after after it got all boiled up we used to just pick up the feathers sometime use to come off that was a nasty thing to do too.......Well, the only way there's to train a bird is just to keep them inside your coupe and just leave it there for such a period of time and and when that time is up just let em out and they just stick around your coupe......You have to leave em for about a two weeks or three weeks the most in order to get use to that place cause if you just take a bird and and just leave it there for a day or 2 is, the day you let it out man, its gonna go back home.....Right, back to its stall cause you know like, once you got a bird and they have that bird there for a long time is use to that place no matter where it is......Right and it flies out and it comes back and theres a (time on) and when you fly a bird you got a bout a stack of them and let them go up in the air they could really bring someother birds to you cause it attracts the other birds that are flying by themselves and really brings them home in
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IN: I had about 25 of them, cause me and my friens use to you know like buy birds like crazy but we use to sell em on (I dont know why) but we use to get other birs much more beautiful and very nice.
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p. 3 Tape 11
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IN: Not now and mostly all the guys got married and mostly there' junkies cause now the main thing down my block is that everybody's a junky there and they I think the best sport there is to wait for a person to come by and snag your a pocketbook that's the kick now, matter of fact I think its everywhere
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IN: Well, Yeah, the only team I follow is 2 matter of fact I follow the Los Angeles Rams football team and and the Mets baseball which that's bout the only things I like
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IN: I dont know cause I think there a good team and what they got they could get somewhere in the future They're pretty strange I mean, I mean like you know like you pick the best team, you dont pick from your area cause if I wanted to I would have picked ah when they had the game last year was um Baltimore and the Jets I was for Baltimore and I tell you something thats that team was pretty strong and and I was surprised to see that they lost man so stick I still stick with the Los Angeles Ram.....No I dont not really I dont find nothing interesting but I just like the Los Angeles better even though that he's from my area but what the heck there's nothing there but
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IN: Cause the Mets you know like all right so there from my area but they play a good ball man like If I wanted to I would picked the new Jers ah the Yankees cause really there are about ah bout couple of blocks away evey though I live on a hundred and 39 where the stadium is is a hundred and 63rd and up there but though I still like the Mets its hard to explain that
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IN: No, I dont, I'm not quite too familiar with the thing really I dont know nothing about it I love to play it but when it comes to follow
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p. 4 Tape 11
IN: the the plays man and all those things I dong understand, its very complecated so that's how come I dont follow it
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IN: At times yeah, I stay up about to 3 4 clock in the morning looking at the late show and late late show
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IN: Ah, lets see well, nowadays the one I like was It takes a thief and and um I think thats about it
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IN: I dont know its kind of very interesting and they have some nice girls in there
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IN: Not really
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IN: No, I'm not quite so familiar with the things no more cause at first, the only time I like I like to go to the movies when they giving like Jim Brown, like <unintelligible text> you know like one of these or Dirty Dozen
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IN: Yeah..... It was about they were all in jail and they had a couple of friends in there and they just wanted to break out the warden was out on vacation so they figure well that was the only way they could get out since the warden was out on vacation and they were hoping to go someplace else which they didn't suceed they had a mannaic in the picture and the manniac use to love to cut people man he use to go wild cutting the cops cutting anybody and it was very, sort of it was kind of nasty cause there was this guy playing the part of Marion he was a little funny and he he loved kelly that was Jim Brown that was playing that picture and um he wanted to get uptight and sort of do his thing with him but Jim Kelly didnt dig that kind of stuff so once they were trying to make friends and really Mary came over to his jail to his ( ) and told him that that to some over to his um couch to his cell and they were going to have a talk so Catty <unintelligible text> with them and
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p. 5 Tape 11
IN: and suddenly he went ah Mary went to offer him a drink and so he took the drink and I dont know what happen I cause I really dont want to say it so he was so excieted that he told Kelly that that he loved him and all these things and you know to bring in his (Dick) which is and I didn't mean to say it that way but so ah so Cutty got mad and he just walked away and he was kind of burned cause Mary loved him even though he was a (guy) he would do anythig to go with Kelly cause he matter of fact. Kelly was the strongest there and huskiest guy and Mary use to use to go for him digged him and all this thing and Kelly didnt go for it and when that thing was going on there was parties in the other cell the guys there were lot a lot a other guys dancing up there guy use to get <unintelligible text> that use to go wild ( <unintelligible text> ) you should see those guys dancing with there bikini and all this thing it was a good picture.
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IN: Yeah, I like the way he play, man, in those motion pictures he's a cool cat man especially in Dirty Dozen.....It was about War, well like they were all they were all criminals and there they was suppose to go on a secret mission and I think it was I dont know who it was he's an actress too, he was a good one so he was a captain, he was a general of of the Army so they came to pick up this guys and they was suppose to train him within ah several days but they were kind of too snotty and besides they were kind a too strick they didnt want to go by the orders so so finnally that they got em in shape they went on to the secret mission and practically all of them died they were all shot down on sight but they were pretty good man they went to raid this place and get some imformation I think it was with Germany and all this practically everybody died there, it was very good. I wish I could see that again too
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IN: Dirty Dozen, yeah it was I think it was very good and besides it had a lot of action to it cause I mean like Jim Brown like he was a football player and then he came smashing in through that door like he was tackeling somebody and was
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p. 6 Tape 11
IN: very funny cause they be up there cursing at each other and coming out they bag man
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IN: Well, when we get up in the morning after we have breakfast we had a we got to clean up our cabin our beds then after that at ten fifteen I have I have education I got my Counselor Rick for a teacher then at eleven fifteen I got cannueing I mean I have sailboat which right now ( I can't be able to go there) cause, I takes 2 it takes me 2 periods just to do a lousey work up in school so I have to drop that and then lunch and they got about an hour free period then we come back here at 2 oclock to 3 and from 3 to 4 we got a free period we can do anything we want til bout 5:20 we got to come and have dinner and after that bout 7 oclock we um it all depends what we have, we could have an activity, we could have a movie, and its real good cause I mean, the days go fast on you when you start doing something and what you dont (That's how come really) I think I'm having more fun than anybody around here even though there's a time when I act kind of strange and really come out my bag <unintelligible text> but, like I had a problem before I came here like something happen down back home which I didnt really want to tell him but like he pushed me you know like I had to tell em even though I didnt want to but I think I'm alright now and I could go back to my thing
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IN: Right, cause I mean up here you get up at a certain time and you have a lot of things to do which over there like everybody's frantically working from 7 til about who knows what time til bout 5 oclock and your boys, man they could be working too or they could be sleeping practically all day and you cant find no body until who knows, til bout 11 oclock so over here like I have everybody right next door and everybody just stays in one position you could find em whenever you want to so its fun that way but up in the city man it takes a
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IN: heck of a long time to get somebody to talk to even though theres a lot of old people but ( ) what they know about what's going on they (dont they dont like sports)
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IN: Not really everybody do there own thing and say what they want to do man and say what they want cause up there all they think of is just shooting up (dope) and going to parties at sometimes and going out (with they girl which over here we cant do that) so everybody you know get together and talk and play ball or do anything......I hope so, I'm willing to I'm hoping to come back and you know like I heard the girls are coming...Right, makes it more interesting and more fun too
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IN: No, like, my bag is like I'm always Ive always been by myself and really (I dont think of it) cause the way if I would have been a leader man like I'd be a cool cat man cause everybody thinks to be cool man and being hip you have to fool around (with one thing or another which that doesnt go in my book, whoever wants to stick with me they has to stick with me the way I want thme to be or what ever he is but most (he dont get me into trouble or fool around with dope) everything be up tight man cause I mean really, (I dont need nobody cause) if I did it for 17 years being by myself I certainly dont need em now...I'm 17