AFC 1933 / 001 WRITINGS -- "Moonshine Story" 375 Moonshine Story Part XX I After we all got drunk, you see, we was in the woods, where there wasn't nobody. But I'll start it and tell what I knowed of it and then Earl Lee can ----- We started from up here at Coleman's at the drug store and went right up through Corner's camp and went up this here [Flint Road] White Row holler and we went three mile up in the country we got up there where this moonshiner was. He lived about, aw Hell it was two miles [up] above Log Holler. Up there, he was about two miles from any other house, you see, this moonshiner. Well, we stopped there and we got us--- they's four of us and we got [us] four quarts of whiskey apiece, four apiece. Well, we had a quart of whiskey but me and we all had a buddy, paired two, two-two, you see. Only I said to John Broughton, [''] I said, "John you pack my quart, too," He had on overalls[and] and [he] I had on pants, [you] see, well, my pocket won't hold a quart jar. So I says, "John, you pack mine, too." Well we took/on over towards Roan Forl --that's over on the Knox County side -- [through] outa Bell into Know. Well, we started over into there and we got away up in there, well, I turned off. Well these two boys they's makin' liquor an' sellin' it, you see, they says, "Buddy, said, "You're goin' wrong." They was just kiddin' me, you see, they was just jokin' me, but they thought that I was 'fraid an' would stop when they told me that. I stopped, they had a shot gun with 'em[z an] and some shells. Well, we stopped an' atter a while we all set there and talked and opened up a quart and all had a drink [.] outta that. It was old moonshine whiskey, I mean, made right in out in the mountains. we all had a drink outa that, two moonshiners, four of us, made six of us, two of them and four of us. And us four had bought a quart apiece. Well we [play edz stay ed] played there a[l] long time until I finally got tired and I decided there was a big [beer] beech tree and there was a lot of dead stuff on [it and] the inside it was holler. I [deiced] deicided I'd put a match in there and make a fire and kinda warm [us. I told] a little. I'm thin blooded anyhow, you know. I told 'em I was. They [was] wanted me to set down an' talk. See they don't see many people back there, only somebody huntin' whiskey. That's their livin' is somebody huntin' whiskey an' spendin' a dollar with 'em. But I was thin blooded and I wanted to keep walkin' and [git] keep warmed up, you see. There was a little snow on, too. So we kep' on goin'. I mean we kep' on workin' aroun' there, you know, [*I kep' on walkin'*] /roun' an' roun' talkin' [to]with 'em. They didn't pay me much mind. They had all got interested in a subject, 'bout moonshiners.... Moonshiner Story, Part II Well, I went away up the path, youx know, I figgered Ize goin' right. I was goin' to hit the head of Vaughan Brnaoh, a big holle holler, [*its*] two mile and not a house in it. And then we'd hit Long Branch, another holler about two mile, two or three houses in hit, you see. ol' log houses, it's just wilderness anyway. This guy that was with Peanut Dozier, he figured that Guy Skelton was back there, you know, that had just killed a guy. He's got four or five liquor stills back there and he's in the woods. He had a big reward you know and anybody got a right to kill him an' if they git to bring him to court. [*If you can't arrest him, just kill him you see.*] Well we didn't have nothin', nothin' to fight with but a pocket knife. Well, I went away up the hill and this boy down there ---- Now these moonshiners was [*(usb Tilmow)*] Well, I got away up on the hill, you know, and I hollered back at' em. Let on I like had a grey squirrel up in a tree and I [?] wanted 'em to come up there [?] to get my buddy started so we could get over the hill and home 'fore daylight. [*you see*] Well, I started and got away up there and they wouldn't pay me no mind, " Hey, Earl Lee, tell them god damn fellers, if they ain't comin' to tell me and I'll come down an' get my quart of whiskey and [] go back the way I come. "Be on in a minute, " John Broughton would holler, you see, "I'm a-comin' right now." "Well, Hell, come on then." Messed around an' they wouldn't come on. [?] Well, I turned around and went back to where they was, you see, I said, "Let's go, boys." Well, "All right." I started down the holler the way we come up. This moonshiner said, "Hell don't go down that way. "And I said, "I'm god damn son of a bitch if I Go way up there and come back down here and git you- and then go back the way/ done turned back. They kept insistin' that for me to go the way I had started, you see. These moonshiners owned up I was on the right road. So we had an argyment there and I said "I be god damned if I go back the way I come, now, You-uns oughta come on. "I said," Now, they ain't a god-damned things in these [?] mountains to talk nor argue about. They ain't a damn thing." An' I said, "We seen one another and these moonshiners never see nobody but somebody like that an' [?] they'll talk to us all day. An' xx we've got to go home." I said, "Hell, I've got a wife. I've got to go back home, see my old lady. "An' I said, "She'll kill me anyhow." Sp we kept arg'in' aroun' , you know, an' this moonshiner said to me, [?] said, "f you go down that way, you'll make it hard on me. "Said, "You know/the law's down [?] there are they kindly watchin'. If you go back the way you come, you liable to walk right into 'em an' then you makin' hard on me." He said, "It won't hurt you so bad, but it will me." Peanut Dozier said, "That's right, let's cross the hill." [?] Well, we started. We hit across the hill and we git right on top and they's a big --- Peanut had got kinda skittish you know 'fo' we's to the top of the mountain. Big dead chesnut tree there, you know. I guess it was six foot two ev'yway. Part III When we got to that big chestnut tree, you see, we started around the hill. I mean I run around the hill you know and I hollered, "Look yonder behind that big chestnut tree, there's a damn feller with a shot gun." I jes---flow aroun' the damn hill, around a path. Well, I run to damn stump an' I jump behin' the damn hill, around the path. Well, I run to a damn stump an, I jump behin' the damn stump an' hide, you see. Peanut hollered over the hill, say,"What do you say, God damn you, you don't see a bear." I said, "Look behind that damn tree an' yu'll see that guy with a damn shot gun. Well we all had a big laugh, you see. John Brock, he was getting high, you know, getting full of whiskey. He said, "Here's the path." And I said, "Hell, they both go back together." Well, we's in the he ad of Vaughan Branch, then. We taken down Vaughan Branch. We started off down Vaughan Branch, know. We walked and I hit a damn log and I jumped on it with my hands and knees. You can tell about how full I was. I mean how drunk I was, you know, how drunk I was getting full. I jumped on my hands and knees, you know, an I'd go, "Pack, pack pack pacwk." Like a grey squirrel, you know. And I'd run on this log an' I'd jump off on another one and I'd jump off on the ground and I'd turn a damn sommerset hit on my head, plumb on my back and back on my damn feet, you know, down the holler till we come to some water. John Brock, he was a dry turned, droll turned old boy anyhow, you know. He just flopped down right on his seeter, said, "Now boys, said, by God now, said, let's drink." And I said, "Hell yes, we'll drink." Well, we set down there and he opened up a quartjar with about a pint and a half it it, hesaid, "Let's drink, boys. Go ahead and drink, said "I can drink every damn bit that one drink." We said, "You're welcome to it buddy, drink ever' damn damn sup of it." He said, "Naw, I drink last all the time," never would drink first. "he won't. He won't take a drink till ever'body drink but him. We we git us a small, light drink of that moonshine, you know, we'd take the god damn jar ring off and dip the jar lid and turn him up and drink the damn water, Well, we'd pass Part III, page 2. the damn jar around till we'd come to John and he'd turn it up and drink [it] like pouring' it down a god damn craw fish hole or sumpen. Well, kep' on, you know, and we messed around (you know,) until we drink that god damn jar of whiskey. Well, me an' Earl Lee, we started--- I got on a damn big brush, you know*, and I run in and [I knock around the] I'd whang the ol' brush [path] with a sourwood walking stick, you know, walin' stick I had, I'd cut in the woods - you know, sourwood walkin' stick, "Whang, whang," around that god-damn big brush fer a mule. you know and I run him away on down the holler an' go Peanut jumped on one & come on behind me and I jest rared right back and turned [mine] my mule just like I was turnin' her on a dime and run up Haggy's fork god damn it. [He] Peanut wanted to swap me and I said, "Hell, no, said this is a filly!" I hitched him up to a fork in a bush laid the pole up in a damn fork, you know, like I was hitching him so he wouldn' fall plumb down, you know. And I rid them damn brushes plumb out of the holler[s]. Well, we started again, me an' Earl Lee, but Earl Lee was away ahead of me a-walkin' and I was behind on a mule . . . . . *Going through the mountains when they step on a brush they expect the law to hear them and they say, "Beezy, beezy." God damn it don't you know the law is here. You know god damn well they're watchin' for us, damn it, don't be too bold around here." And then another one will say, "God damn old red eyes, we don't give a damn about them." Part IV, Page 1) I was behind on a god damn [?] brush with a sourwood stick, a-whippin' a horse, you know. This brush was my horse. Well, I tuck off down through there and I got down there to a bi--g chestnut log that had fell across, well, I got me some more logs and Peanut and John Broughton was behind me, Peanut Dozier an' John. I thought I'd block the road on 'em, you know. I put a bi--g lot of logs in the road so they'd have to crawl over 'em. That shows you, you see, how full a man was. Well me an' Earl Lee we took on, Earl Lee, I got him away [?] though, an' we took on, just me an' Earl an' we just had a quart with us, quart jar that hadn't been opened. We wouldn't open that quartvfor hell either. We got off down there an' we come to where the branch is forked, on Vaughan Branch, you see, Lotta sky sickkimores there. Water thar the year round, some water, you know. Bi--g high sickkimores, god damn, tall as mountain an git as little as yore arm in the top, you see, We got down there and we kep' settin' there lookin' for John an' Peanut to come up. We looked back up there where we had the road blocked an' them god damn sonsofbitches had stopped there just lookin' at one another, you know. And like they's in some city, just met a-talkin' away and just layin' it off with their damn hands. See, they'd done got drunk, layin' it off with their damn hands. They come on down you know, I mean they stood there and I said "Earl Lee, Let's-- I can clib that goddamn sickkimore." He said, "You can't." I said, "Ill bet you a damn dollar I climb it.." I got up on the first limb. Earl Lee said, "Hell I can climb higher than that." Well, he got to climbin' an' he just kep' goin' an' goin' an goin' and I locked up my legs around the first limb, you know, and I almost tipped the ground with my hands and I skinned down. Well, there I hung, I intended to hang there until they come along and there I'd hang holdin' with my feet, with my head down. Earl Lee clumb up till I got friad that the god damn thing would out and they's ice, you see, and that timber just as cold as [?] and I8se afraid that timber would break out and he'd fall out and he'd kill hisself Part IV, page 2. deader n' Hell. I went to hollerin', "Hell, Earl Lee, don't go up there. That damn top 'll break out with you." He's too high, you see, he'd just kep' goin', he'd had too much liquor. Got to the top. We'd laid a quart down at the roots of it and covered it up with leaves. Well, he got up till it wasn't no bigger around than your damned arm. I hollered out, said, "Stop right there, buddy," He stopped. We looked and seed Peanut comin' an' John. While we's waitin' we thought we8d thought we'd stay in this tree and they'd pass us up and then we'd be behind. And both of 'em seed us up there. John took right around the tree and flopped right down on his setter you know, Earl Lee was right at the top, they went to hollerin' "Said come down from there Earl Lee." Said, "God damn, you'll get killed buddy." Earl Lee got to swangin' over that way an' over that. An' directly after while he was goin' fifteen foot this way an' fifteen that way an' it not bigger 'round than your damned arm.... Part VI page 1. They was playin' their wooden damn fiddles an' banjers a ain. I don't know what in the Hell they's talkin'. See I wasn't back there. I was a little ahead. Said, Come on down. It got a little steep. and ' John he flopped back down on his tail. Had a full quart of whiskey in his pocket, see, me an' John was Buddies, he packed my quart an' his quart. Well, I decided that we'd-uh, I8d get my quartan' let Peanut pack it. I took my quart from John and put it in Peanut's pocket, so if John's break from the quart with the little sup in it, little bitty drink, you know, we wouldn't be damaged bad, we'd just lose a drink an' we'd still have afull quart. But we hadn't smoke, hell, in five or six hours. We had ever'thing to smoke but no matches, nothing to make no fire atall. But "I knowed where this house in the mouth of Vaughan Branch, that's in the head of Long Branch. Come on down there, well, I went down, didn't know who lived there, I8 been there, you know, when a moonshiner had lived there, this here Noey Warren, but that'd been four, five years ago. He'd left an' a preacher had moved in. I went on down, but I come plumb on around his farm and back to his gate, an hollered, "Hello, uncle." He throwe his head up an' I said, "Howdy uncle." And he wouldn't answer me. His wife said, "That feller is callin' to you." And I said, "Hanh?" I said, "Howdy uncle." I said, "I'd like to get a match or two or a chunk of far or just any damn thing to light a cigrette." He couldn't hear hissef pizzle(sizzle) so far as that goes. Well, his wife told him what I was sayin' you see, He took right in the house an' he got me four matches. He lit back out to the gate with 'em. Well, I stood right there an' talked with him an' he told me story of his life. He said, "I'm eighty five year old." And he'd come from Kno Cpunty, over here in this Bell, you see, in the head of Long Branch, that's the head of Long Branch, but Vaughan Branch is a long way from it, turns over to Long Branch, but it's a long one, you see, an' just nothin' but damn woods an' wilderness, is all it is. Well, we got down there, I got there Part VI page 11. talkin' to the old man an' called him uncle an' granpaw an' daddy an' stuff like that you see. Well me an' at ol' man had a long talk. Well, toreckly these drunks, these other three comin' up," Whee, god damn it to Hell, god damn ever'body." And ever' kind of a bad word, you know, just a-hollerin' set Hell(?) He said, "Who is that up there." I said, "Some god damn drunks." He said, "Are you with 'em." I said, "Yessir." Well he said, "Listen, boy, he said, you a nice lookin' young man." Had a blue serge suit on out an' out, you know, just like I'se goin' to town or sumpen, this black hat an' he said, "What in the world," he said, I'm a preacher eighty-five year old, never took a drink in my life." Part VII. Eighty-five years old, you know, an' a prea her an' never took a drink in his life an' I told him that was good. An he said, "Listen, young man, if you're with them drunks up there,"he said, "I'll swear that you ain't had a drink." But still I was the drunkest one in the whole bunch, if it goes to the drunkenness part. When I go till I fall and then I'm down. I can prove that, I got a record of that. I go till I'm uninsane. Well, he said, "I'm goin' to advise you, I'm a preacher," and said, you go an' pay no attention to these drunks at all, said, you go on down this holler and said, "I don't know what to think about you bein' up here with 'em an' not drinkin' yo'se'f." And I said, "Well, uncle, I don't drink." He said, "I'm proud to hear that." He said, "I preach onct, the third Sunday in ever' month down here at Long Bracnch school house." And said, "Uncle I'll be right up 'ere." Third sunday of next month" And he said, "I'll be glad if you would, bring all your friends." I said, "I'll bring all my friends and all my friends and we'll hear you preach." He said, "I'll be glad if you would." I said, "I'll do it." I said, "I ain't no kind of a outlaw or sumpen ' 'cause I'm with them damn drunks, said I've been huntin' a damn dog that been lost." He thought he's proud of me buddy. Well, Peanut come down, Peanut Doziet, got right in his face, "Drup, dup, drup, drup." Big lost of drunk stuff, you know, an' he said, "Boy get outa my face," he said, "You're drunk, this boy here with you ain't drunk a drink and I'll swear and then ehre you come right in my face drunk as you can be and me eighty five year old and never took a drink in my life." And he said, "Me, a preacher of the gospel," said, You, you, get out of my premises, I was on the outside. Peanut was on the in. He'd come through the old man premises. Peanut he crawled outside, you know, and tuck off down the holler and I tuck atter him, you know, left the old manthere. I tuck off down, got about a hundred or two hundred yards from the house, you know, an' here come John an' Eral Lee Earl Lee a_packin' John. Aw, Hell an' blood a-runnin' out his damn years an' nosean' him a-cussin' an' raisin' Hell, you know, old man, he swore and be doggoned he'd shoot him with a shot gun an' hima Holiness Preacher, you see, Part VII, page 2, But he was gonna sh pt John anyhow for him a-comin' through there drunk. The old man couldn't hear what he said, sayin' to him(?). Well, his wife helt the old man till John got though, you see. Well, atter John got [though'] through his yard and out of his premises, you know, [and Eral Lee] and Earl Lee overtook us and said, "That old man back there's tryin' to kill John." And I said, "God damn, that'll never do[o], "said, "By god, I'll go [back tka] git John. "I [want and got John] back an' got John an' I give him a good cussin'. I said, "You God damn [sin] son of a bitch, "said, "You walk. ,"said, "I'm a-walkin', now you walk." John tuck out, you know, walkin'," I walked him about a half a mile... Part VIII[I] We was goin' up a little[,] bank, you know, an' down John fell an' you know Ise thinkin' he'd get up all[t] the time and so I leave John, you know. Well, I ketch up with Earl Lee and Peanut and but Earl Lee he'd run away up in the side of the woods and jump behind the bigs tree and cut a stick out like he's gonna shoot us, you know, and I hollered away, "Wait you damn fool, you, wait and let's git John." Well, they wanted to go right on, you know, I got 'em stopped, you know, an' we all met in a little path, you know, and hollered, "Come on, John, and couldn't get no answer. Well, we argued around what to do. Peanut[,] said, "By God, ''said, "We go back an' get him." We went back, you know, and we got to where John was and we'd shake him and he'd just open his eyes and he'd say nothin'. [W] We shuck him up good an' he wouldn't get up at all. [T] A-liftin' around out comes a full quart, it was the [w] quart I'd give Peanut to pack, quart of whiskey, you know, hit a big rock, said, "Smash," broke all to Hell. He said, "God damn him, said, let [the sun of bitch lay] him lay there, if [he] the sonofabitch can't walk, I'll not break another sup on---------- friendship? I said, "God damn him, let the sonofabitch lay there If he dies, let him die." Well we dropped down the holler and we met another preacher. And we had a long talk with a preacher [and we] about some guys that had stole his cattle, you know. We talked and talked and talked about these guys a-stealin' his cows, you know, and sellin' it to some stockbuyers and how her was gonna [proecute] prosteute them an' all of that, [you know] in court, you know, an' make 'em 'em pay for it an' all 'at stuff. Well, goes on up, you know, an' finds John [you know] an' takes him home an' give him a good bed an' feed him an' awful good to John that night, you know. So we go on down the holler/ Well, we begin--- We'd got us some big sticks for guns you know and we begin, one was the captain we's drillin' the other two. Earl Lee's the captain, buddy, he was a-walkin' me an' Peanut down through there makin' us step[y] high. Come to a rock he'd make us step plumb over it. We's a-hikin'. Directly Peanut run up the hill an' got in behind a damn stump and ' Earl Lee run into him with the Part VIII, page 2. gun, you know, an' Peanut punched the damn stick out at him, you know, these damn sticks was guns. Earl Lee made a flyin' --- I halted Earl Lee, you know, an' [*told him not to move*] he made a [flyin'] tackle at me an' [we] he run right into it an' I hit him right down over the back, you know, and did actually hurt him, you know. He [hit away] hit away off an' down there on his face an' hands an' about that time up run a woman an' a man with a meal sack on their back and a lotta groceries in there, drunkern' Hell the man was. He just stopped an' we run right into him you, know, to talk with him an' he went you know about------- Part [V] XI This guy come up, you see with the meal sack an' he's just drunker'n' Hell an' he's an ol' runner (?) an' ol' Ol' moonshiner at I'd bought whiskey from you see when Prohibition was tough. An' he liked me pretty well, you see. An' Ise a bad hand when Ise around him-- he poured out the whiskey by big glasses-- he'd pour me out one or I'd drink it or die. And maybe [after] I'd have to drink two or three I'd drink two or three an' I'd hold up till I'd out of his sight before I'd get staggerin' an' cuttin' up. Sometimes we'd git six gallons an' we'd get with a half of it, we'd break it up. He'd make us drunk an' we'd break the rest up. Well, he said he had some of the best damn whiskey ever was, [yo] red whiskey, [you know] an' I forgot the name of the damn [whi] whiskey, you know, but he jerked it out of his pocket, you know, an' retch it to me an' I said, "Hell I8d give anything for a red drink." He retch it me and I tasted it an' I said, "God damn at's Tennessee Tom I said, "That's the pure ol' damn homemade stuff." "aw no," said that's the red whiskey." It was so pale you could see through [fr] it from one side [nearly] to the other but still it was red." An' I said, "You 'ant a drink of Earl Lee?" He said, "Hell naw." I said, "[Let's take Take a god damn drink an' let's fill it back up with red whiskey." Earl Lee tuck a drink an' we said, "Now mister, listen, right around this [little] school house here---" we come to a a little ol' damn with no lid on it. The ol' led's a-layin' there an' the [ol'] jar's open. We'll give you a drink of red whiskey." We drunk his damn Tennessee Tom an' I mean that's men whiskey, actually too, it [actually] work on ye every damn part about ya. Well, we went around there an' we drink about half of his'n, you know, and we just got up an' Earl Lee poured out about a pint, [or about] poured out about a half a pint in his bottle, that didn't leave us but about a quart an' a pint. We left him there. He pryed around an' didn't know me an' finally he recognized who I was an' hugged my neck an' jest bawled like a little baby with that meal sack on his back, you know, all humped over an' had me all hugged up. I'd-a give a dollar to-a got [away rid of him] loose, but Ise afraid to do a thing, you know. Well, I got a-loose from him an' we took off down the holler. Down the holler we went an' we come to Ernest Mathew's, a feller down there, you, know. He had a wife an' five or six kids but we busted right in, Hell, right into the God damn yard an' hollered him out. Out he come, he'd come from work. "You want a God drink of whiskey." "No, I don't, boys." He's afraid of his old lady. said, "No, Hell fire[w], no, he begin showin' us the way to get outa there, you know. Well, there's a palin' fence an' he got to this palin' fence an' he would have a drink, you know, we give him a big drink and he pretended he didn't want it, he didn't want his old lady to know [it] it. He was a-awantin' is to go an' him drink an' her know nothin' about it. Part X. Well, we went on down from Earnest's, you know, an' we hit the damn branch, notin' but rocks an' water, rocks an' water, an' now an' then a little mud hole. Well, we got off down through there, you know, an' I lost-- all my mind left, didn't [knwo] know a damn thing 'till we hit a bridge down there that come from ----- across the damn crick an' onto the railroad. We got across there, you knwo, we still had this damn little dab of whiskey. Well, we had about a pint of and a hlaf. We meet John's brother, the one that's down drunk we'd left in the holler, his daddy an' our daddy. Well, "Where's John." Well, god damn it, he's about two mile up that holler a-layin' right flat of his facean' he won't get up, Hewon't walk an; we left the sonofabitch a-layin' there, damn blood a-runnin' outof his ears and eyes and nose and ever'where. He's been in the briar patch. Well, they said, "Where's abouts?" "Aw right up the holler, keep that damn little path an' you'll find him.He was [layin'] right in it when we left him, if he ain't rolled in that branch an' got drownded. Well, his brother[,] said, "Boys, have you got any whiskey." "Well we've got a little sup here We called quarts an' pints sups. He said, "Give me a sup of that an' I'll go git John. I'll go git him if it takes me all night.'' Well god damn it, he turned up a quart jar NEW YORK UNIVERSITY WASHINGTON SQUARE COLLEGE WASHINGTON SQUARE, NEW YORK DEPARTMENT OF ENGLISH left it about half full. He passed the jar around an' me'n Earl Lee an' Peanut drunk that up an' give it back to him an' he just emptied it. Well, we was a-talkin' on an' Matt' an' our Daddy an' John's daddy was [s]tryin' to find out somepen of whereabouts John was. Well, in a minute Bob's about drunk as Hell, you know, he'd drunk a quart. He just went to preachin' an' a-talkin' an' goin' right on you [know]z know an' Earl Lee turned right around an' took right up that/rocky holler with Bob, went to Noey Warren's, the man with the meal sack on his back, drunk as Hell. He [had] still had that red whiskey in that other clear bottle settin' on the bottle an' he said, "Now boys, "he said, "I know both is good boys, I'm gonna give you good drink of red whiskey." He got that Tennessee Tom down, you know, an' shot 'em with that, an' them doen drunk. Well, the old lady, my mother, an' ol' Nancy come an' got me. They's a-goin' along pretty good an' I'm pretty unruly when I get so drunk you know. I thought I'd raise some Hell, you know, I bucked back an' they'd jerk me up, you know, an' I8d walk a few steps an' I'd stick my heels in the ground an' I'd buck back on 'em. I called them enemies but they'd actually friends [you know,], to me, you see. But still when I get drunk I'd cuss them out. I'd buck back, you know, till we got to the house without sayin' a damn word, but [then] atter we got to the house I just cuseed them out completely. An I said, "God damn 'em, I'll lay-way, an' kill 'em with shot-guns an' everything else, y u know." Well, The'dore come up, you know, an' he had a big talk with me an' all I remember is The'dore comin' an' talkin' this all off with me. An' then I[w] [?] went to bed an' that was the last of the damn thing. Transcribed and reviewed by contributors participating in the By The People project at crowd.loc.gov.