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>> From the Library of Congress in Washington DC.

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>> Good morning to all of you and welcome

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to the Dawson class for the year 2010.

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We're happy to see all of you. 

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We started a little early on September 1st

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and now we're back for our first full week.

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My name is Jim Hughes, I'm the volunteer coordinator and I'm happy

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to have all of you here for the very special presentation we're

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about to hear. 

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Through the years, the Library of Congress Dawsons have come

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to know John Cole mostly through his books about the library especially,

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"On These Walls: Inscriptions and Quotations in the Library

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of Congress," first published in 1995.

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This revised version with this gorgeous color photographs

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by Carol Highsmith was published in 2008.

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The blurb in the back of the book managed

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to boil John's 44-year career at the Library down to 2 sentences.

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[ Laughter ] 

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>> Here they are, John Y. Cole is founding director of the Center

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for the Book in the Library of Congress.

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He has published widely about books and libraries in society as well

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as about the history of the Library of Congress.

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You will get to know John, his books and his love of the library

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through this morning's presentation and discussion.

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I would just add-- I would like to add a brief word

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about his administrative career at the library.

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You can ask him more questions about both the history of the library

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and his personal involvement during the question and answer period.

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The Librarian of Congress, Daniel J. Boorstin who became Librarian

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of Congress in 1975 asked John 

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to chair an important year-long administrative review

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of the entire library during the year 1976.

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It was called the Task Force on Goals Organization and Planning,

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and the creation of the Center for the Book in 1997--

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1977 was but one of the study's outcomes.

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With support from the present Librarian of Congress,

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James H. Billington, who took office in 1987

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after Dr. Boorstin's retirement, John has expanded the Center of--

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for the Book nationally and internationally, served as co-chair

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of the library's bicentennial celebration in the year 2000,

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played a key role in the National Book Festival which was created

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in 2001 and then instrumental in the development

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of the library's new Young Readers Center which opened as part

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of the Center for the Book in 2009. 

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John tells me that the shorthand title

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of his presentation this morning is what you should know

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about a unique national institution or why LC is great.

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[Laughter] Ladies and gentleman, John Cole.

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[ Applause ]   >> Thank you.

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Thank you, Jim. 

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Yes I'm a cheerleader for the Library of Congress but I want

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to tell you why today and would like to have a discussion with you

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about some of the characteristics that I am able to define.

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We can look at these together, 

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I hope for a good part of this presentation.

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I enjoyed talking to the Dawsons. 

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I also enjoy talking to the-- each year's professional-- new--

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excuse me, new class of new employees who are coming in

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and because I do have a background of the history of the Library

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of Congress and also as Jim has said, have been fortunate enough

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to be in a position to in essence practice what I preach

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as an administrative officer in some of the special projects,

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I like to try to convey my conclusions and also to thank you,

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the Dawsons and to thank even our brand new employees

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for taking an important part in spreading the word

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about what is truly a unique institution.

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What I have gathered here today is for a first time

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for a Dawson's presentation and I've just started doing it with some

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of the new employee presentations is the gathering of some

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of the publications and some of the posters and some

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of the promotional material that I have used through the years

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or been involved with and I want to--

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I believe after going through perhaps a very speedy 20-minute

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of tracing of the library's history by looking primarily

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at its buildings, its locations and its changing mission to stop,

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have a question and answer period and then also take you through,

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maybe a little later in the hour some

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of these publications and tell their stories.

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And so what I'm proposing to do is to tell you a bunch of stories--

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most of them pretty much true, alright.

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[Laughter] And then to try to answer any of your questions, so this is--

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should be a fun session and I enjoy it each year.

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We have to start though at the very beginning and what I have to show

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at the very beginning is really what-- how I started.

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I began at the Library of Congress actually

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in the Congressional Research Service and soon got interested

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in the history of the library, and was transferred to what used

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to be called the old reference department

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because I decided I needed a PhD in American Studies and I've decided

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that my topic was gonna be how the Library

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of Congress became a national institution,

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and this was published-- this is my first book.

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It's 1970 and it was published really coming during the period

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of my dissertation research and if any of you have done dissertations,

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know what you need basically is a chronology,

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and so this is a chronology of the Library of Congress--

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a chronological history starting at the beginning and ending

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in 1975 before Dr. Boorstin came to the library and before I even knew

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that he had planned to create a Center for the Book.

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But it is-- in those days was spent time actually of course

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with all my citations and I have used it ever since.

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We lost this one out of print 25 years ago and we rediscovered it

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in one of the library's warehouses a year ago and we now have copies

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for sale for only 10 dollars in the LC sale shop.

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This is typical of something that you will all learn about the Library

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of Congress and in fact I've begun to think of it

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as an endearing characteristic, is that we are so big, you really have

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to be focused on a topic or a subject in order

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to learn what is really here. 

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Another example which we will come to is the reconstruction

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of Jefferson's Library which you all know about--

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or will know about as part 

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of what your training will be and I'm sure already is.

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We didn't know how many of the duplicates

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of Jefferson's Library we had on our own shelves

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until we really took the bibliography and went after them.

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And now when we proudly given the tour of the Jefferson's Library,

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we kind of downplay the fact that a number of those--

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there is a euphemism we used in that beautiful catalogue

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on which I worked, explaining that, you know, our rich collections,

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we manage to find a number of the duplicates which you now see as part

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of the reconstructed Jefferson's Library.

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It's a fact of life. 

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We're the largest research library in the world

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with around 145 million items. 

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We have around, I don't know what we're saying,

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39 to 4-- 3900 to 4000 employees. 

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We're complicated-- the histories of our units are complicated.

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But we have a few wonderful things that bring us together and part

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of it starts at the very beginning which is outlined here

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and in the couple of the other books 

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and it's really the Jeffersonian heritage and I early

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on did a book called Jefferson's Legacy.

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A short-- a brief history of the Library of Congress

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and let me give you the briefest of that story if you do not have it.

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The library was really created from Philadelphia when Congress,

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which had always used books in--   when it was in New York

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and in Philadelphia have appropriated 5000 dollars

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for the library-- for books for the Congress

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and our first home was the New Capitol Building

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because we we're actually in the Capitol Building

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as Washington DC got created. 

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So, we really preceded any other cultural institution and as we brag

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about the Library of Congress and talk to tourists about it, you know,

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we do-- part of our pattern now is 

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that we are the largest federal cultural institution in Washington

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and it's hard to beat that because we we're created in 1800 legally.

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We really started functioning more when the first books arrived

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in the Capitol in 1801 and the joint committee on the library

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which is indeed the oldest joint committee on Congress--

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of Congress got started in 1802. 

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Now, a lot of that part of the history is documented

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in a book I was fortunate enough to work on for many, many years.

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>> And it's the encyclopedia of the Library of Congress,

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but it even now is outdated, it came out in 2004 but one of--

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it has about a dozen essays about the Library of Congress

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and then alphabetical histories of functions

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and of administrative units and there are reference copies all

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over the Library of Congress.   Right now, it's out of print

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and I'm not sure what the new edition will be

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if there will be a new edition.   That's another subject.

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But one of the little coos I had was to talk

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to the Senate Historical Office to do--

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into doing the very first listing of all the members

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of the joint committee on the library from the beginning.

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And so that is in the back. 

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Just so the rest of you can see this, this is the poster--

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we use to sell this when it came out in 2004.

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It's the only other presenta-- 

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general presentation about the library that I've been able to make

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to the staff as a whole until today 

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when we are actually taking a look together at some of the resources

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that we've used in developing the library's history.

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We were proud of the encyclopedia because it had a color section

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which is now far superseded by actually the color photos

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by Carol Highsmith which are in the new edition of "On These Walls,"

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but there still is a very handsome color section

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that begins this particular book and just so you get a sense of--

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these are the essays on different subjects and then we start with A

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and we march right through acquisitions to zebras.

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Not quite to zebras but to other units.

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And one of the advantages of this is 

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that about 50 different library employees worked on it

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and they were the specialists of their divisions.

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And so the music division provided the history

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of the music division and collections.

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That is another wonderful aspect of the Library of Congress by the way,

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the specialists who are here. 

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We are unique in several ways as I'm indicating.

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One, I really should point out is the fact we're a legislative branch.

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Congress created us but we're unique 

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because the president appoints the Librarian of Congress

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and that has led to one of our-- 

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not really troubles but some of the discrepancies and some of the pushes

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and pulls in our history. 

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But a second unique feature that I love is the specialists

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that have developed, you know, to care for the collections.

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All of which is a function of the copyright law

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that I'm getting ahead of my story.   We're now still back in the Capitol.

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We're still looking at books coming from England

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as the first Library of Congress collection.

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The reason the collection was so important of course was

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that books were really the internet of the day.

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Congress had to have information and books

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and pamphlets were the way you got information.

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And the little library in the Capitol grew during the same years

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when Thomas Jefferson was the president of 1801 to 1809

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and we all know part of the outcome of this story

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that is the Jefferson was a great book lover

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and he nurtured that little library.   He recommended items for it.

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He left office but he actually also named the first 2 Librarians

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of Congress were really Jefferson's clerk, John Beckley and then--

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I'm gonna think of it in just a second, but of course,

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I will have to look at one of my books in a second.

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But in any rate, the first full time Librarian

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of Congress was George Watterston in 1815.

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So Jefferson had this great interest.

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Well, the British destroyed the Library of Congress

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when they invaded Washington DC in 1814 and Jefferson

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by then was retired to Monticello and he

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of course was greatly dismayed but he had an idea and that was

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as the owner of the greatest private library in our country at the time

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and someone who knew the value of books to Congress

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and to our government, because of course the president had been

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involved from the beginning in the library, he offered to sell

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at cost his wonderful library back to the Congress

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to recommence the Library of Congress,

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you know to keep that ball rolling. 

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He had to sell it because basically he was broke

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and his creditors were asking for the money and his proposition was

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that his roughly 6400 volumes-- 6500 volumes would come to the Library

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of Congress for about 4 dollars a volume and around 25, 26,000 dollars

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in those dollars-- in those days. 

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This is all in a lot of our brochures, too so you'll see that

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and I'll tell you where to find all of these as we move on.

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And Congress only did this by-- approved it by a vote of 10

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and it wasn't-- in the end, there were some people who'd--

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said, you know, why do we need Jefferson's Library?

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It has books and all of these subjects that Congress doesn't need.

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And to the contrary, Jefferson argued all these subjects needed

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to be-- the Congress needed to know about fine arts and geography

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and science and music-- Jefferson himself being violinist,

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because there was no subject to which a member

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of Congress may not have occasion to refer

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which is a very flattering thing to say to Congress.

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[Laughter] But it's also basically true.

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And Congress agreed to do this, to take on this comprehensive library.

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The second part of Jefferson's idea 

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which really didn't transpire at the library.

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We couldn't really bring it off until after the Civil War was, well,

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members of Congress-- well you need these books and all

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of these subjects in order to govern this growing country that's kinda

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stuck on the eastern seaboard, 

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the people of America need these books too.

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You need to share this legislative library with the American people

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and in principle, Congress agreed. 

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But, in practice, it didn't happen for a couple

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until after the Civil War. 

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And I will explain that story as we kind of move through the morning.

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But first, I've gotta get us out of the US Capitol.

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We were in the Capitol with Jefferson's Library,

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fire was the great threat to all libraries in the 19th century

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and the Library of Congress had it share.

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Not only did the British burned the Capitol, but in 1825,

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there was a fire that did no damage but in 1851, a chimney flue broke

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or leaked and flames got in and two thirds of the Library of Congress

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in the Capitol was destroyed. 

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Fifty five thousand volumes were lost including two thirds

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of Jefferson's 6500 volumes. 

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So we were down to between 2000 and 2500.

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But, the Congress stepped up to the back actually and agreed--

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and they didn't have to do this 

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because this was a very difficult period for the Library

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of Congress in the 1850s. 

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They agreed to restore the funding to rebuild the Library of Congress

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and put it in the first iron-proof room in the Capitol.

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So there was a very important kind of architectural step

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that moved us ahead and there was an intention of Congress to move ahead.

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However, Congress in those days was--

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it was Congress was dominating not the library side,

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not anything like the National Library side and there was a chair

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of the library committee who really ran the Library of Congress

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from the 1840s until 1862 and he was a senator

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from Maryland named, James Pearce. 

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A knowledgeable man, very well educated, love the classics,

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but he also was a-- basically a confederate sympathizer

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as most many Maryland people were and he saw no national role

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for the Library of Congress. 

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He rejected the second part of what Jefferson had wanted

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and kept the Library of Congress small and really did things

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like control the subscriptions, 

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so some of the inflammatory items weren't really purchased.

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And so-- and in fact, he favored moving the National Library

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to the Smithsonian which had been created in 1846.

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But you see, now I'm telling you chronologically, we were 1800.

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Smithsonian is 1846. 

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Our other major sister cultural institutions,

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I mean the other biggie of course is the National Archives

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which really wasn't created until 1935.

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So as our story proceeds, you'll see the Library

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of Congress grabbing some of the archival functions that the arch--

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later would go back to the archive. 

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But it came fairly close to losing the National Library function

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in the 1840s and '50s except a man named,

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Joseph Henry who was a great scientist,

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the head of the Smithsonian saw what was happening

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and Congress didn't know which way to turn with the Smithsonian

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or really with the Library of Congress

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but Joseph Henry knew he wanted Smithsonian to be science

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and he fired the librarian name-- whose name was Charles Coffin Jewett

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who wanted the Library of Congress-- 

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I mean the Smithsonian to be the National Library.

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And Joseph Henry himself pointed up to the Capitol and said, "Some day,

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it's got to be the Library of Congress

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because it's got the building.   It's got the national stature.

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It doesn't have the people yet."   And that that was quite true.

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In the 1850s, we had a staff of 5 

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and by the time a man named Ainsworth Rand Spofford became a

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Librarian of Congress, a newspaper man from Cincinnati, we had 7.

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>> But Spofford, he was the man who recognized the national potential

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of the library and centralized copyright

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at the Library of Congress in 1870. 

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And his question was, "How do I build a national library

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with not much money," and his answer was, "I know,

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I'll do it like they did in England and in France

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and I centralize copyright so the Library

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of Congress gets 2 free copies of all books, prints, maps,

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anything that needs to be preserved by an author in order

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to retain the intellectual property rights to it."

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And Spofford said, "That's what' we will do.

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That's what our national library will be.

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It will be a great national accumulation of knowledge

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that the American people can rely on."

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And Spofford paraphrased Jefferson. 

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He took Jefferson's argument about the need--

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every great nation has a great library that it can turn

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to as it grows and that library needs to be comprehensive

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and needs to be open to all. 

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So, the 2 Jeffersonian principles that really have come

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through are comprehensiveness of knowledge and today,

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the Library of Congress with our great collections is really what we

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call a multimedia encyclopedia. 

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That's what Dr. Boorstin used to call it who was my boss in 1975,

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the one who created the center. 

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And he took great pride in the fact that we had--

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we we're a multimedia encyclopedia because when you think about it,

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the copyright office and the copyright laws, you know,

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cover all kinds of different formats and media.

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And to this day copyright is, you know,

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I think is still a very important part of our acquisitions policy.

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But now of course we've moved in to the electronic age

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and not only are we copyrighting all kinds of items

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that Spofford had never heard of, 

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but of course we're copyrighting born digital things and getting--

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and so we've moved into this other world but the basis

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of it is the copyright office being part of the Library of Congress,

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that also is another unique feature.   That doesn't happen.

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Not only are there very few if any, I can only think of one,

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other so-called national library that also is a parliamentary library

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but copyright also is an executive branch activity.

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And in the Library of Congress in my day, there was an effort in fact

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to move copyright out and tie it back to the patent office function

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from whence it sort of came in a general kind of way.

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And the library didn't want to do that and then in the end,

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neither did the publishers and neither did the copyright--

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people who were happy with what the copyright was.

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Now, copyright is a very difficult thing to administer

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and it's controversial but by and large because the Library

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of Congress is basically both legislative and also

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in a sense an executive branch with--

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it has this executive functions, we are nonpartisan.

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The Librarian of Congress from the beginning has been appointed

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by the president. 

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Congress didn't even catch on until 1897when suddenly, this building--

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and this is a brochure I have for all of you about an essay I wrote

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about the importance of the building.

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When this building suddenly appeared, it will do--

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well I think we'll talk more about the construction a little later.

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And so what have we here? 

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It looks Mr. Spofford, the librarian claims this is a national library.

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What is a national library? 

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I know, let's have hearings and let's bring in some librarians

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to tell us what-- if this really is a national library.

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Well, it turns out Spofford had come pretty close

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to making this into a national library.

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He hadn't quite done a couple of things but in the end,

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the building itself of course make such a strong statement

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about cultural institution than it is a cultural monument.

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The librarians criticism-- criticism of the time was that Spofford,

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A had not thought of things internationally yet,

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but he really didn't have a chance, but that's true.

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And secondly, that he wasn't reaching out to other libraries

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and their definition of a national library would be a library

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that reached out and did technical services, centralized cataloguing,

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centralized acquisitions to other libraries.

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In other words, we were missing a leadership role

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in the library community. 

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But basically, these other elements were there.

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The trick for Spofford was two-fold, 

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one was to convince Congress to build the building.

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He centralized copyright in 19-- 1870.

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He said in 1871 said, "Alright Congress, we're gonna be flooded.

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We gotta have a building." 

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He only had at that time maybe 12 employees but with--

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once copyright came, he got-- eventually got up to 24 employees

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at the turn of the century but half of them were working on--

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before the building was occupied, 

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but half of them were working on copyright.

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But his bigger challenge was in the Jeffersonian sense

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of convincing Congress that this should be the national institution

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and that the building when it was built was gonna be

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of such monumental proportions that it hardly could be anything but,

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you know, something pretty significant.

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And the story that's told in this brochure is Spofford's story

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of both copyright and getting the building built which is--

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was called the "Struggle for the Structure" of which I've called

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in several other articles. 

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But what significant about that is once the building was built,

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one of the 2 librarians who testified at the hearings

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from outside saying Spofford did great except

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for these 2 things was Herbert Putnam.

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And he was from the Putnam Publishing family

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and he was President McKinley's nominee to become the Librarian

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of Congress from-- in 1899. 

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And it was Putnam who stayed for 40 years at the Library of Congress,

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the longest term and what he did was he completed the job

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that Spofford really didn't have a chance to complete.

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He started services to libraries 

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and he went international in a very daring way.

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I mean in the 1905, he sent a Library of Congress employee

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to Russia, to Siberia to look a t a collection that's Putnam felt

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that was something we should purchase as the basis

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for our Russian collection. 

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The same decade, he did the same thing for China, you know,

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for the Middle East and he just had a very international point of view.

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But at the same time, he was doing-- 

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started centralized cataloguing at the Library of Congress.

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With those little 3 by 5 cards, he-- Putnam, I'm talking about now.

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So the 2 librarians that I'm talking mostly about now would--

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one would be Ainsworth Rand Spofford and he was the librarian who came

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to the library during the Civil War. 

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He got Lincoln to name him Librarian of Congress in 1864

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and he centralized copyright and built the Jefferson Building.

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It was terribly overcrowded in the Capitol

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but eventually everything was moved into the Jefferson Building.

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I have a picture to show you. 

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I have marked in one of my books but I'm gonna finish.

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So then the 2nd one is Herbert Putnam.

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And it was during the hearings on this building

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that the Congress realized it had never given itself the power

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to confirm the president's choice as librarian.

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It's hard to believe. 

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So, during the 19th century sometimes a new president came in

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and out went the librarian. 

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And that protection, if you wanna call it that, was added to the sort

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of the structure of the Library of Congress in 1897.

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And the first librarian that McKinley appointed and was confirmed

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by Congress was a journalist named, John Russell Young

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who did a great job but we can't worry too much about him.

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There are limited timeframe. 

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He is in all the books, because he died

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after a year and a half in office. 

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And it was Putnam who came in as the 2nd appointment from McKinley

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and really kinda finished this job. 

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And so what Putnam did was to redefine the constituencies

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that the Library of Congress had. 

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We started of course with the president which brought

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in the executive branch and early on,

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executive branch people were authorized to use

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that little library in the Capitol. 

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When the-- after the fire in the Capitol, the big iron room was built

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and we have pictures of that 

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and we'll do a little picture session in a few minutes.

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That was read across the Capitol looking down on the mall.

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It was the best place for tourists to look at the mall.

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So what happened was people naturally and the members

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of the public came in and looked at through the Library of Congress

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and look in the mall and as we do now.

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So we are-- already then were serving Congress by virtue

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of being the Library of Congress, 

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the executive by the president making the appointment,

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the public by using the Library of Congress over there in the Capitol.

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Copyright came in. 

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We started serving publishers in the creative community.

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We had not gotten yet and I'm missing one

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of our major constituencies. 

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I'm gonna mention this before the Young Readers Center.

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>> But at any rate, we were slowly building it and then finally,

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you know, Putnam built the International Constituency and we--

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oh then, excuse me, I forgot.   One little thing in Spofford.

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Spofford in addition to centralizing cataloguing--

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I mean to centralizing copyright persuaded Congress

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to give the library 100,000 dollars 

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for the Peter Force Library incunabula.

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This was early books and also there were valuable maps there,

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so he was starting on the scholarly community

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and Spofford brought his friend, George Bancroft

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who was an American historian in to not only to write letters

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of endorsement to Congress for 100,000 dollars

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which was quite something in 19-- 1867 to buy that library,

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but also to help scholars know that they were welcome

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at the Library of Congress.   Still a problem we have.

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We'll talk about that in the question and answer period.

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Because of our name, Library of Congress, and the tension

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that is sort of the natural one that I hope you can see a building

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where starting with Congress, we're adding kinda not to enthusiastically

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at the beginning the American public,

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and of course international intentions

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and now the internet has made us international.

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So in fact, we have fulfilled, you know, this Jeffersonian idea of--

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it's just taken a lot longer than Jefferson thought it would.

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But nonetheless, you know, we are unique in that sense.

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Just to-- I'm gonna try to concentrate on getting us

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up to the present and then stopping and then I'm gonna go through

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and show you some photos of some of the things I've talked about.

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The other significant thing is 

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that after Spofford then actually brought together these 2 functions.

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He said, "Okay, we're gonna do the Jeffersonian thing.

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We're gonna tie the national role to the legislative role.

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We're gonna do both." 

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Congress hasn't always agreed with that.

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There's been kind of an up and down in attention just like there was

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with Mr. Pearce back in the 19th century.

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But basically, every Librarian of Congress has bought this idea.

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Everyone since Spofford and that includes the ones who follow Putnam

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who were Archibald MacLeish who was the Librarian of Congress,

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the writer from 1939 to 1944 while he was working

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as a speech writer actually for Archibald MacLeish.

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He not only took this as a natural assumption, this bringing together

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of the people's library with the legislative library,

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but he was a war time librarian and really revved it up and talked

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about the Library of Congress as a fortress of freedom.

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Hey, there's an audio visual. 

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This is a book about the history of the Library of Congress

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by a woman who worked in CRS. 

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And it was built-- it was written in 1946--

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'42, I'm sorry published by Lippincott, you know,

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just as the US had entered the war. 

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But the image that it was shown, of course and the idea behind it was

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that we were protecting America's freedoms and in a real way

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that was true, because way back in the 1920s--

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and this is Mr. Putnam building this constituency again,

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he went to the state department where he had special connections

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and persuaded them to loan the Declaration of Independence

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and the Constitution to the Library of Congress for display

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in the Great Hall and was on display from 1923 until 1952 when we ended

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up giving it to the National Archives

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which hadn't been created until '35. 

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But as you know the difference between--

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the basic difference between the institutions is the archives is

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where our-- the documents of our government are kept and there's--

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no one could really argue that the 2 basic documents

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of our government were not the Declaration

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of Independence and the Constitution.

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So the library reluctantly gave those up.

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In fact, the Librarian of Congress at that time was Luther Evans.

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He followed MacLeish [inaudible].   MacLeish was '39 to '44.

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Evans was '45-- 1945 to 1953 and left in 1953

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to become the first secretary general of UNESCO.

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So you get that international thing back in.

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But Evans actually, and we've had a little bit

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of an oral history interview with him talking about it, was so worried

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about the Library of Congress' senior staff didn't wanna give

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up the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

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They felt, "We had them and we librarians were that way.

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We are archivist were that way and darn

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if we were ever gonna give them up." 

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And there are a couple of articles that I've written

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and other people have written about this.

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So Evans in the end asked the joint committee on the library

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which basically is an advisory committee to the library

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to order him to give the Declaration and the Constitution

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up to the archives and the order was issued, I think the--

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probably the only direct order the joint library committee has ever

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issued, and it happened in 1952. 

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The Librarian of Congress from '53, Evans then left and in 1953,

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a man named L. Quincy Mumford for whom our Mumford Room was opened--

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was named was from the Cleveland Public Library.

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And he was the only Librarian 

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of Congress who's ever had a professional degree.

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And in my case, even though I am a professional librarian,

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I do not think it's a necessary requirement but it doesn't hurt.

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And so that was another kind of constituency but the library grew

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on both the legislative and the national sides under Mr. Mumford

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because of a huge infusion of depart--

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of educational funds in the '70s. 

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And that's when we created our overseas offices.

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But the seeds of the overseas offices

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and our international role are in our collections.

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In fact, its' fair to say I think the functions of the Library

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of Congress-- really they do grow out of the collections.

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And because the collections from the beginning are so broad

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and so international and-- you know, 

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our statistic is I don't know what it is, but 470 languages.

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Some of you-- Jim has to patter down, I mean what we say.

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But it's because we have those collections, we have the units--

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the area studies units and that's why we have the specialists

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that I am so fond of. 

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You don't have many people who have the wonderful specialties we have

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in the Library of Congress. 

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And in that sense, it's because Congress bought

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that Jefferson Library all those years ago and we now, of course,

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honor it by not only it's reconstruction

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through the bicentennial but we honor it when Dr. Billington

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who is our present Librarian of Congress goes to Congress every year

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to get our funding and we're 

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up to 640 million maybe a year from appropriated funds.

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We are careful. 

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We want congress to stay to be our major supporter.

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We do not want everything to be funded by the private sector at all.

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We want it in a very controlled way 

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and we have a Madison Council that helps us.

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But it helps us in direct-- 

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carefully directed ways by the library.

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But Dr. Billington as did Dr. Boorstin before him,

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when they go to Congress say, you know, what else to say,

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say why do you getting all these materials from all over the world?

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There is no subject to which a member

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of Congress may not have occasion to refer.

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And that is a bedrock kind of mission and statement, you know,

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for the Library of Congress.   And it is a valid one.

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Its-but the key is, you know, to try to convince Congress

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and to keep working especially in a period

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of restrained budgets right now, you know, to keep our eye

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on this larger comprehensive unique role of the Library of Congress.

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Dr.-- Mr. Mumford retired 

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in 1954 even though the library grew tremendously under him.

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I remember this because that was back when I was kind of doing more

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for the library as a historian and I did one

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of the little retirement brochures for Dr.-- Mr.

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Mumford. You know, how do you say what's happened in the last 20 years

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and I never forget saying that our appropriation went

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from 9 million to 90 million. 

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Now, that doesn't sound like much but that was 1954 to '74

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and I just said today, it's 640 million.

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But the collections grew and that I was able to come to conclusions

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that what happened in those days is what still happens

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in the general way. 

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The legislative side which is really handled

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by the Congressional Research Service here,

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in my day it was the Legislative Reference Service,

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grows and has this essentially important nonpartisan function

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which actually leads to another unique feature

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of the Library of Congress.   We truly are nonpartisan.

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While the Librarian of Congress is appointed by a political--

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by the president, you know, we are not the kind of agency

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that has a job change at the upper levels

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when a new administration comes in.   It doesn't happen.

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There is an integrity and in the early days,

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a separate civil service system was built for the library

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with its separate retirement programs that has gotten closer

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to the government programs but it still has--

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the library still has this integrity and this reputation

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as an absolutely nonpartisan agency. 

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>> And we must be because of CRS, because they do work for republicans

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and they do work for democrats. 

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They are very, very-- we are very, very careful as an institution

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to retain that good reputation and we've done so.

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I've seen changes in that. 

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I've seen Dr. Billington being more willing to let members

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of Congress make use of our wonderful Jefferson Building

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but it's done in an absolutely nonpartisan way.

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If the republicans rent it for something or take it

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or use it, the democrats do. 

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So it's that nonpartisan right down the middle of the road integrity

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of the library that it's another-- 

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one of the Spofford characteristics carried through Putnam.

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I can't say that was a Jeffersonian characteristic actually.

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Spofford was the one who really needed to be nonpartisan in order

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to get the votes-- to get both-- to get the building actually.

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And then what happened was Mr. Mumford retired and Daniel Boorstin,

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historian from University of Chicago 

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who had been actually a senior historian at the library

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at the Smithsonian Museum of National History,

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I think it was what it was called in those days, was named by Gerald Ford

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to be Librarian of Congress. 

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And that was the period when Jim mentioned I got involved

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in the library as both a historian 

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and as an administrative person being Dr. Boorstin's head

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of his task force which had people from all

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over the world actually plus a lot of Library of Congress employees,

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out of which came the Center for the Book.

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But he-- Dr. 

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Boorstin decided to retire in 1987 to go back

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to writing his big world history. 

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He'd already written books about the history of the Library of Congress--

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I mean about the United States. 

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And Dr. Billington who was at the Woodrow Wilson Center,

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at the Smithsonian was named by Ronald Reagan in 1987

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and Dr. Billington who is also a very strong Librarian

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of Congress has been with us since, which does lead me

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and I will conclude on this and we'll do a little bit of Q

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and A. The other thing the library has been blessed with is,

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I would say since Spofford not only librarians who understood the role

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that the Library of Congress could play but we're strong enough

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in dealing with both Congress 

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and in developing national constituencies to--

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and in maintaining this nonpartisan neutrality.

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And that was not an easy thing for Mr. Putnam to do in the--

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those 30 years because this was when Congress was asserting its role

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with his own skills managed to maintain this integrity

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that we've been blessed with strong leadership.

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And the Librarian of Congress is known at--

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whomever he is and so far it's been all he,

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but it will probably won't be for-- 

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I mean, of course it won't be forever,

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but who knows what will happen, has always had a strong reputation

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and the Library of Congress has managed to keep a strong reputation

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which you are part of course and I know that you will take--

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you do take pride in the library or you wouldn't be here, but I'm hoping

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that some of this and in our discussion,

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we can talk a little bit more about some of the items that I've hit.

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So that ends part 1.   Thank you very much.

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[ Laughter ]   [ Applause ]

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>> Archibald MacLeish was really the first librarian

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to start honoring Jefferson but he had a good reason

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and I don't know-- oh, I did bring it.

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This is the Jefferson bicentennial celebrated

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at the Library of Congress in 1943. 

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And it's a catalogue of exhibitions and what-- and by then--

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I didn't even really talked about the other buildings, did I?

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Very quickly, the-- this wonderful Jefferson Building of ours

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which we'll come back to is opened in 1897, Putnam built an open--

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what was then called the annex building,

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today is Adams Building that's built in the '30s,

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and opened to the public in 1939. 

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And so when MacLeish was Librarian of Congress starting in '39

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and we got around to '43 which was the centennial--

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bicentennial of Jefferson's birth, how better to honor Jefferson

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and his role in the library of congress than a library-wide exhibit

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where each of the divisions were asked to display whether they're

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in the main building or the annex, you know, what--

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how Jefferson affected their collections and so,

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what you had was, you know, 

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something over in the science division

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in the annex building showing Jefferson in science.

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Something in music showing Jefferson in music of dimension of violation,

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as something prints and photographs Jefferson.

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So we really physically made the point

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that Jefferson's comprehensiveness. 

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But then, MacLeish went further and he invited his good friend

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who in fact had helped President Roosevelt make the decision

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to appoint Archibald MacLeish just 

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as Felix Frankfurter was the man behind the scenes there

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and it turns out, MacLeish invited Justice Frankfurter to come over

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and give the opening address, you know, for the Jeffersonian exhibit.

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So that Jeffersonian idea has grown and then Dr. Billington,

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during the bicentennial, had the notion of the reconstruction

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of the library which I've already talked about a little.

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But what is unique when you see this is

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that that library has been reconstructed

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and for the first time, it's in the Jeffersonian order.

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I mean Jefferson was, among other things, a librarian.

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I mean, he was a cataloger. 

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He had his own system based on Sir Francis Bacon system.

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So, what you see there physically, you know, is really this--

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the heart of the Library of Congress both philosophically in terms

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of the range, of the comprehensiveness of collections

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and the intention to share them but also the intention to make them

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as useful as they could even though the Library

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of Congress only kept Jefferson's collection system--

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I mean I did mark something here through the 19th century.

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When Jefferson's books arrived at the--

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when George Watterston took them in to what we called Blodgett's Hotel

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which was where-- downtown after the fire in 1815,

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they came in classification order with Jefferson's catalog

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and we just kept expanding Jefferson's system

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until the library opened-- reopened in the Jefferson Building.

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What happened-- I'll go through this, it gets a little confusing.

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Once in the Capitol, Spofford used-- expand Jefferson System and in fact,

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here is something I found for the chronology years ago

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that I think Spofford might even have done it.

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This is the Tree of Knowledge and this shows, you know,

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how from this Jeffersonian initial sprouts of the trunks of the tree

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which you will see in the classification system

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when you visit it, little branches started to grow

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and these little branches grew and grew and they got heavier

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and heavier and pretty soon, 

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the whole thing really crushed in the 19th century.

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But in a way, it didn't matter because Spofford,

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after he centralized copyright, yelled for a new building in 1871,

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he didn't get that building authorized until 1886 thanks

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to a couple of members of Congress nor did it open in 18-- till 1897.

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So, Spofford ran out of space in the Capitol in 1875.

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Copyright material was pouring in. 

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He decided to confiscate rooms throughout the Capitol, and by 1897,

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LC material was in 16 different rooms throughout the Capitol.

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He'd stopped cataloguing in 1881. 

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He was just really hanging on to get this new building

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which he didn't get authorized until 1886.

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So all that maps went in one room, the prints went in one room,

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the newspapers went in one room, and by the time

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that we were finally ready to move, the Library of Congress

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in the Capitol was closed in the summer of 1897 and--

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we don't have photos of this but I've read about it.

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Not only they brought horse-drawn carts across

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and park them beneath the Capitol and started hauling out the material

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and in a couple of cases, they've actually built wooden shoots

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that came down and they shoved the material

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when the material can take it, you know, into the wagons

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and they carted across and they put it on the floor, a good deal of it

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of this newly constructed-- this wonderful new Jefferson Building

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for sorting because it was just jumbled.

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And early on in my research, I found this photo.

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This is what the material looked like when it was dumped on the floor

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of the Jefferson Building. 

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Up and down those hallways and you could imagine just to sort it

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out because of the multimedia nature of it, you know, it took a couple

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of years, and it turns out the second librarian who came

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over to testify in addition to Mr. Putnam

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at these hearings was Melvil Dewey, 

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who of course had already created the Dewey Decimal System.

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>> And he made a special trip to Washington to lobby his friend,

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Mr. Putnam by now Librarian of Congress that the Library

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of Congress should use the Dewey Decimal System

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and Mr. Putnam just shook his head and basically said to Mr. Dewey,

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"Well you're system is so limited and it's so good

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for public libraries but we if you could see on the floor"--

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I'm making this up but it's this idea.

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You know, "We are a research library,

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we are a multimedia encyclopedia and our intention is to be the largest

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and most important research library in this country

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and we just simply have to create our own classification system."

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In fact, it was based on another one, Charles Cutter System

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but it was not gonna be the Dewey System.

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Now, let me just say a word or two about the Jefferson Building.

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This is a book on the art 

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and architecture which is still in print.

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Norton has now-- in its 2nd or 3rd printing and it's a book

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of essays about-- and I'm the coeditor

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but I helped organize this years ago and it was one

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of the first color books where it has essays that relate to the art

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and architecture of the building and part of what I'm giving you the copy

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of this reprint, "The Jefferson Building: The Book Palace

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of American People" was a brochure I wrote for the opening of an exhibit

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when the restored Jefferson Building reopened on occasion

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of its centennial which was 1997. 

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I know you-- what happened was I never got to the 3rd building,

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the Adams building, formerly the annex opened to the public in 1939,

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the building we're in, opened in 1980, it takes the Library

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of Congress roughly 25 years to get a building--

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of these 1st 3 buildings from the time it's first proposed

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until the time we actually get the building.

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But once the Madison building was opened, Dr. Boorstin,

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who was my boss at the time, went back to Congress in the end,

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got 100 million dollars for the restoration

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of the Jefferson Building and part of the--

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so this is my essay which was "Struggle for a Structure"

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which tells the story of the construction and you have--

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can probably see a number of the construction sites.

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But what you have is another section we put in which is called "Souvenirs

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of the Jefferson Building" and that's was the brochure

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that end the listing of the exhibit items which you don't have.

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But a number of things you will have there would be things

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from the postcard collection showing what a big hit the Jefferson

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Building was when it opened. 

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And my argument there is because somehow Congress finally--

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Spofford finally got Congress not only to agree,

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but Congress wants to-- gets involved and here are spoons

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and scissors with the souvenir of the Jefferson Building

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which you'll see are also in your brochure.

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The US Army Corps of Engineers was brought in here--

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tea cups with the Jefferson building, and the US Army Corps

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of engineers, the 2 key people were Thomas Lincoln Casey

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who was the general-- Brigadier general in charge

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and his chief engineer, a man named, Bernard Green.

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They had just finished completing the Washington Monument.

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You remember, for many years, 

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the Washington Monument was a stab starting at-- from 1848 on.

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Well, after the war in the '80s, the United States were starting

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to really flex its muscle culturally which the Library

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of Congress benefitted from but Casey

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and Bernard Green not only topped off--

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to the top that beautiful Washington Monument,

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they finished the executive office building next door

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which was the war navy building, very plush.

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And then Congress ended up in 1886 shortly after the authorization

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of the Jefferson Building firing the architects and bringing

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in the Army Corps of Engineers, Lincoln and Bernard Green to finish

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and because they trusted them, well, it turned out that Bernard and--

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General Casey and Bernard Green were infused with the same nationalism

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on behalf of the structure and the growth of our country physically

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and culturally as Spofford was-- had that nationalism for the growth

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of this national library and they really complemented each other.

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So by the time Thomas Lincoln Casey and General-- and Bernard Green,

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they chose-- rather than the 4-million dollar plan

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for the building, they chose the 6-million dollar plan.

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Rather than the small dome, they chose the larger dome.

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Rather than leaving the dome where it was, they put it up 100 feet.

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They kept getting money from Congress and so they decided

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without asking Congress initially to employ 100 American-- 100--

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20 American architects and 20 American-- architects--

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artists and sculptures to decorate the building and of course part

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of the fund of the touring of the Jefferson Building is not only--

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they're coming together of art and architecture and painting

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in a public building for the first time,

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but doing it with American talent which makes the building

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that much more important as sort of a monument to cultural nationalism,

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but also it gave Spofford the space he wanted.

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So he was happy and the librarians who'd argued endlessly

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over the design, finally came together and it turned

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out the American public absolutely love the Jefferson Building

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when it opened. 

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It wasn't called Jefferson, we can go through that later

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but it became a great tourist attraction and even the Speaker

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of the House of Representatives, 

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Joseph Canon said it was the grandest building he'd ever seen.

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So suddenly, the Library of Congress arrived on the scene

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with congressional support, public support, professional support,

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and one of the jobs of the Librarians of Congress then,

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especially Mr. Putnam was to translate

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that into financial support which as I said with Teddy Roosevelt,

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Putnam helped to d. But if it hadn't been for the building

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and now this was-- so I mentioned, if it hadn't been for the building,

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I don't think-- and then the space and I showed the space problem.

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We wouldn't be where we are now but once that building was there,

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you know, the momentum has picked up and we're out of space entirely

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on Capitol Hill but I think some of you know about our storage up at

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For Meade, Maryland where this-- Congress has given us money, we're--

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and we're trying to get additional money to build these modules

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which hold millions of books and now, other kinds of materials

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for offsite storage and the grandest one of all is Culpeper which is

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where in the couple of years ago, you know, we open

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and I'm sure you're learning about that as part of the process,

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this wonderful conservation motion picture broadcasting recorded sound

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not only storage area but reading room,

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motion picture theatre and conservation center.

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Technical laboratories and people don't think of the Library

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of Congress as a place with great technical capabilities

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but we have some-- especially in the preservation and conservation area,

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you know, some absolutely wonderful scientists, some of 'em are now

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down at Culpeper but that's Library of Congress South,

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but that way was paved actually by the momentum

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of the Jefferson Building. 

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And that is the book that we-- Jim mentioned at the very beginning,

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the first edition of "On These Walls" was meant

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as a companion to Jefferson's legacy.

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But it turned out, the-- it was-- while it was the 2nd book,

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this was '93, this was '95. 

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In 19-- 2008, we did this wonderful Carol Highsmith

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with color photos book which is based on my text

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but is a condensed text I'm afraid because this is commercial

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and it is sold in the shops. 

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I wish we had one for everybody but we don't

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but it's still being reprinted, I think again.

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But it does-- it isn't as comprehensive as this

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but this is online and as is the index and as is all the information,

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so one of these days, we'll take the color photos from Carol Highsmith

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and put them online to replace the black and white photos.

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But this has become-- there are also in this book a brief--

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very brief history of the Library of Congress and some of the things

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that I've been talking about and we need to move towards the close.

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Let me just give you a couple of other things about the guidebooks

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because you're in the guidebook business.

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This is the 1st edition of Herbert Small's "Handbook of the Library

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of Congress" which was published when we opened in 1897.

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He-- Small was a Boston newspaper man who also did one of--

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a handbook for the new Boston Public Library

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which opened at about the same time.   But it's unique because it has--

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it's compiled by Herbert Small with essays on the Architecture,

01:00:03.480 --> 01:00:08.190 align:start
Sculpture, and Painting by Charles Caffin and on "The Function

01:00:08.190 --> 01:00:11.470 align:start
of a National Library" by Ainsworth Rand Spofford.

01:00:11.470 --> 01:00:15.120 align:start
>> And Small actually interviewed some of the artists

01:00:15.120 --> 01:00:18.930 align:start
and so the descriptions in here while he doesn't quote them by name,

01:00:18.930 --> 01:00:22.520 align:start
these are really pretty authentic descriptions.

01:00:22.520 --> 01:00:26.370 align:start
We reprinted Small several times. 

01:00:26.370 --> 01:00:30.380 align:start
The Library of Congress Professional Association, this is--

01:00:30.380 --> 01:00:34.110 align:start
has reprinted it but unfortunately, we and I'm part

01:00:34.110 --> 01:00:38.080 align:start
of this association ended up reprinting the later edition

01:00:38.080 --> 01:00:42.060 align:start
which didn't have the 2 essays and the essays of course are important

01:00:42.060 --> 01:00:45.240 align:start
because those are firsthand kind of accounts.

01:00:45.240 --> 01:00:48.710 align:start
We did, however, reprint in this-- 

01:00:48.710 --> 01:00:54.390 align:start
we put in color illustrations for Small's handbook, so if you come

01:00:54.390 --> 01:00:57.710 align:start
across this or use this, you're back to the initial--

01:00:57.710 --> 01:01:00.940 align:start
this is the art and architecture, the Norton book

01:01:00.940 --> 01:01:06.690 align:start
of the Norton description plus some of these additional essays

01:01:06.690 --> 01:01:09.670 align:start
by scholars on the paintings 

01:01:09.670 --> 01:01:13.590 align:start
and the sculpture work plus the souvenir stuff plus my essay

01:01:13.590 --> 01:01:16.440 align:start
on structure and how Spofford brought

01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:19.540 align:start
of what's Spofford brought off in order to get the building.

01:01:19.540 --> 01:01:24.860 align:start
This is an ancient volume when the-- this is--

01:01:24.860 --> 01:01:27.700 align:start
remember, I told you the story of Congresses-- what have we here?

01:01:27.700 --> 01:01:29.700 align:start
Let's have hearings. 

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Here are the hearings and they were published in this wonderful

01:01:32.490 --> 01:01:35.420 align:start
and original binding of a lot of these extra copies

01:01:35.420 --> 01:01:39.590 align:start
that people keep sending me because they know I'm gonna be interested.

01:01:39.590 --> 01:01:45.670 align:start
And the hearings are actually 300-pages long and part

01:01:45.670 --> 01:01:51.180 align:start
of it is transcribed with Mr. Spofford walking members of Congress

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through the Jefferson Building-- 

01:01:53.180 --> 01:01:55.520 align:start
well, it became the Jefferson Building saying what he planned

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to put where and they actually quote him and they have this.

01:01:59.750 --> 01:02:02.920 align:start
So you really get a great way of, you know, how--

01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:05.150 align:start
what he planned and then what actually happened

01:02:05.150 --> 01:02:09.160 align:start
which sometimes was true and sometimes didn't

01:02:09.160 --> 01:02:12.310 align:start
but to show you what they were thinking of.

01:02:12.310 --> 01:02:14.810 align:start
There are charts in the back--   [ Pause ]

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>> Compared-- and this is a little fragile but it's been restored,

01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:28.700 align:start
comparing comparative tables so far as details that [inaudible] permit,

01:02:28.700 --> 01:02:34.980 align:start
a proposed force and expenditure in the Library of Congress--

01:02:34.980 --> 01:02:42.680 align:start
let's see if I can do this, as compared with similar services

01:02:42.680 --> 01:02:48.430 align:start
in the National Library of France, the Royal Library of Russia

01:02:48.430 --> 01:02:50.430 align:start
and the Boston Public Library.   The British museum isn't in there.

01:02:52.430 --> 01:02:55.760 align:start
So you can see we're feeling the computation a little bit.

01:02:55.760 --> 01:03:00.130 align:start
And so-- you know, in that sense the library is part

01:03:00.130 --> 01:03:02.130 align:start
of the political process. 

01:03:02.130 --> 01:03:05.840 align:start
1950, the Library of Congress and its work.

01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:09.460 align:start
So this would be something that library published a selection

01:03:09.460 --> 01:03:17.530 align:start
of pictures with descriptive text and what I love about this is you--

01:03:17.530 --> 01:03:23.030 align:start
I'll just pull one out so-- here would be different reading rooms

01:03:23.030 --> 01:03:29.220 align:start
at different times but here would be Slavica [phonetic], we call it,

01:03:29.220 --> 01:03:31.510 align:start
the largest collection of Russian books outside

01:03:31.510 --> 01:03:38.360 align:start
of Russia approximately 25-- 265,000 volumes and pamphlets is available

01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:43.240 align:start
for using the Slavic literature, alcove, annex building, 5th floor.

01:03:43.240 --> 01:03:45.240 align:start
Then it talks about the Yudin Collection

01:03:45.240 --> 01:03:47.280 align:start
and that's the very collection I mentioned

01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:51.520 align:start
and here is our Slavic specialist under a photo of Mr. Yudin,

01:03:51.520 --> 01:03:53.520 align:start
you know examining in the collection.

01:03:53.520 --> 01:04:01.190 align:start
At the occasion of the bicentennial, the 150th anniversary, we did--

01:04:01.190 --> 01:04:03.190 align:start
and I've always enjoyed this. 

01:04:03.190 --> 01:04:07.320 align:start
This is a little hardbound-- it was the sesquicentennial, 175th,

01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:11.380 align:start
1950 and so this was an exhibit that--

01:04:11.380 --> 01:04:15.060 align:start
about the library's history which is the last time we really ever done an

01:04:15.060 --> 01:04:18.310 align:start
exhibit about our history and this was the exhibit catalogue

01:04:18.310 --> 01:04:24.060 align:start
but this shows Archibald MacLeish, as Librarian of congress

01:04:24.060 --> 01:04:26.860 align:start
for the first time meeting with-- 

01:04:26.860 --> 01:04:29.720 align:start
well I shouldn't say first photo we've shown of him,

01:04:29.720 --> 01:04:33.550 align:start
he's with his colleagues, Davin Mearns who was the Chief

01:04:33.550 --> 01:04:37.420 align:start
of the Manuscript Division for many years and a historian of the Library

01:04:37.420 --> 01:04:42.200 align:start
of Congress whom I met early on and helped influenced my interest.

01:04:42.200 --> 01:04:44.380 align:start
A man named, Verner Clapp 

01:04:44.380 --> 01:04:48.170 align:start
who was the chief assistant librarian for many years.

01:04:48.170 --> 01:04:53.030 align:start
Mr. Clapp was a contender for the position of Librarian of Congress

01:04:53.030 --> 01:04:57.670 align:start
in 1954 but it went instead to Mr. Mumford

01:04:57.670 --> 01:05:02.130 align:start
and Mr. Clapp left the library in a couple of years later,

01:05:02.130 --> 01:05:06.390 align:start
but not out of peak, it was to, in fact help be the first president

01:05:06.390 --> 01:05:10.420 align:start
of something called the Council on Library Resources which turned

01:05:10.420 --> 01:05:16.420 align:start
out to be a privately Ford Foundation grant operation

01:05:16.420 --> 01:05:19.560 align:start
and Mr. Clapp knew enough about the Library of Congress to know

01:05:19.560 --> 01:05:23.940 align:start
that the best way to influence and to develop funding for projects was

01:05:23.940 --> 01:05:26.440 align:start
that it come from outside. 

01:05:26.440 --> 01:05:31.720 align:start
And so the Council on Library Resources really started funding

01:05:31.720 --> 01:05:34.510 align:start
and experimental funding for the Library of Congress

01:05:34.510 --> 01:05:36.570 align:start
which the government-- we couldn't do.

01:05:36.570 --> 01:05:40.060 align:start
And cataloguing and publication which we've talked about earlier,

01:05:40.060 --> 01:05:42.860 align:start
early preservation funding, all came 

01:05:42.860 --> 01:05:46.060 align:start
from the Council on Library Resources.

01:05:46.060 --> 01:05:50.990 align:start
And finally, let's see, this is the book that we did

01:05:50.990 --> 01:05:53.340 align:start
as our bicentennial history. 

01:05:53.340 --> 01:05:57.570 align:start
And it's by James Conaway and I highly recommend it

01:05:57.570 --> 01:06:02.270 align:start
and I believe it's still for sale in the shop, if I'm correct.

01:06:02.270 --> 01:06:04.270 align:start
Thank you very much.   [ Applause ]

01:06:06.270 --> 01:06:11.650 align:start
>> This has been a presentation of the Library of Congress.

01:06:11.650 --> 01:06:14.150 align:start
Visit us at loc.gov.   [ Silence ]
