>> From the Library of Congress in Washington, D.C. [ Pause ] >> Well, good afternoon everybody and welcome to the African and Middle East Division. I'm Mary-Jane Deeb. I'm the chief of that division. And, I'm delighted to host you today for a program organized by Laverne Page, Africa specialist in this division and the Library of Congress Organization of Employees with Disabilities. In a few moments we will also have Kirk Rascoe, Director of the Office of Opportunity, Inclusiveness and Compliance, who will be making remarks in recognition of National Disability Employment Awareness Month. But now, a few words about this division. As many of you already know, it is made up of three sections, the African, the Near East and the Hebraic section. We are responsible for materials from 78 different countries, in the Near East, Central Asia, the Caucasus, the entire continent of Africa, North and Sub-Sahara. And our Hebraic and Judaic collections come from all over the world. We also serve these materials to patrons here in our reading room and organize programs, exhibits, conferences, and other activities that highlight these collections, and that inform our patrons about the countries and the cultures these publications come from. Our presentation today is a case in point. We have with us Dr. Buhle Mbambo-Thata, the Executive Director of Library Services at the University of South Africa, who will speak about the subject that we have not discussed in this forum before. Namely, on disability awareness in South Africa and the lessons we can learn from the services provided by the University of South Africa which is headquartered in Pretoria. South Africa is a rich and complex country about which we had learning more everyday. Last year, the Africa and Middle East Divisions Africa Section in partnership with the Poetry and Literature Center and the African Society of the National Summit on Africa launched a new series called "Conversations with African Poets and Writers." The series consist of a set of live webcast interviews with established and emerging poets, short story writers, novelists, and playwrights from the African continent and the African Diaspora. Programs include readings and moderated discussions led by staff in the African section of the library's division. Last week, we had a writer and poet from South Africa, [inaudible], who read to us from one of his works in Xhosa, one of the 11 official languages of South Africa. And in April we hosted a program and a series featuring the Poet Laureate of South Africa, Keorapetse Kgositsile. So, we always want to learn more and to have the experts, the specialists come and inform us and let us know what is happening in South Africa. So now let me pass the microphone to Kirk Rascoe who joins me in welcoming Dr. Mbambo-Thata to the Library of Congress. So, Kirk, please come. Thank you. [ Pause ] >> Thank you Mary. Hold the applause down to a manageable roar. [laughter] Thank you Dr. Mbambo-Thata. She's the only one. Welcome to the United States, welcome to the nation's capitol, Washington, D.C, and welcome to the Library of Congress. I am the director of Opportunity, Inclusiveness and Compliance for the Library of Congress, and I was reminded by Miss D. Is it Miss D or Doctor? >> Dr. D. >> Dr. D. Okay, the doctor has announced that I was a relative new cumber like an electron spun off of an atom in a nanosecond, and I've been here for four months. But I also remind her that in time everything is relative, as Einstein said. So, even the oldest structure, there's something older and even the youngest one, there's always something younger. So, with that in mind, I wanted to welcome you to the library and just let you know that here at the library we have a workforce of about 3500 employees. As of April 2012, we took a survey, and we found that 246, almost 250, self identified as having a disability. The largest group of those who self identified of having a disability, namely 63 individuals, did not wish to officially disclose their disability. So, whatever strides we have made in this country, in this city, in this institution, individuals still are not entirely comfortable with disclosing their disability. We also have had recent changes to the law which had broaden the definition of disable. So that individuals with conditions such as diabetes, epilepsy, arthritis, are now included within that definition. And I know from just anecdotal experience that some individuals with hidden disabilities will prefer that they remain hidden. Having said that, the library does value diversity and we seek to leverage the diversity that we have in our workforce, easier said than done. And one of the reasons it's easier said than done is that diversity means different things to different people. But here, we seek to use diversity to enhance our core values such as service, stewardship, excellence, and collaboration. So, in that regard it is important that the library supervisors, managers, librarians, the custodians, are of national culture and heritage demonstrate behavior and values that promote inclusiveness, including the inclusiveness of individuals with disabilities. Sometimes it's hard to do that when you don't know whether or not a person has a disability, but that underscores the need for mutual respect in our nation's valued institutions. But we have identified inclusiveness here at the library as one of the core competencies for our managers. So, I just am not going to take up the whole program. I could go and on and on about the Library of Congress. I've never been here in this [inaudible] room before. I think it's beautiful. I look forward to hearing your presentation because one of the things that we've learned from Amanda Donaldson who is sitting behind you. She is the president, Amanda? >> Vice chair. >> Vice chair of our Organization of Employees with Disabilities is that culture affects the way in which disabilities are perceived and interacted with in society. And I don't know about in South Africa but there are-- America's made up of different cultures similar to yours. And in some of those cultures, individuals with disabilities were segregated for a long period of time, hidden away so that no one could see them, not spoken of and not spoken to. We've had individuals with disabilities to tell us, for instance, an individual who is blind say that, when he goes to the store someone who's sighted, they will give his change to the sighted person. They will talk to the sighted person. And the same thing happens with individuals who have hearing impairments. So, culture affects the way we interact. But, the good news is, we're in a position to affect the changes in our culture. And I think the ADA, the Americans with Disabilities Act, has gone a long way towards changing the cultural expectations and cultural norms that we engage when we engage with individuals with disabilities. The other good news is, the young people of today grew up in an inclusive environment, because parents, caretakers, and other stakeholders fought for full inclusion for school children some 20 years ago. So we have an entire generation of young people who don't understand what the big deal is in including people with disabilities and it's the older people like myself who have the difficulty, simply because we have not been acculturated to include, to accept and to respect. So, having said all that I want to thank you for having me. I'm going to welcome you to the library and I look forward to hearing your presentation. Thank you very much. [ Applause ] >> Hello. My name is Laverne Page. I'm an area specialist in the African and Middle Eastern Division and I work with Southern African countries and I would like to add my welcome to you for coming today, to today's lecture in the African and Middle Eastern Division in recognition of National Disability Employment Awareness Month. We are pleased to have someone with us today who is knowledgeable about disability awareness in one of the regions covered by this division. And as Mary-Jane said, we've never had a speaker before to talk about this and therefore, Dr. Mbambo-Thata's talk, her lecture will be enlightening for us. Before I introduce her, I would like acknowledge and to thank our cosponsor, the Library of Congress Organization of Employees with Disabilities. This is a staff organization that started in 2007 as a brown bag lunch group. Employees met to discuss and to address issues of common concern relating to disability and accessibility. Since 2009 OED functions as a recognized LC staff organization with over 130 members. They meet during their lunch break and not only provide strength, cohesion and social welfare for each other but also bring that strength and cohesion to the library itself. Their mission is to assist those with present and future disabilities to have a clearinghouse for information on workplace accommodations, universal design, programs and services at the Library of Congress. So I'd like to acknowledge the OED executive board and I know that the chair is not here today but the Vice Chair Amanda Donaldson is and you want to-- well, we know who you are. And now, on to the good part. I would like to introduce you to our speaker Dr. Mbambo-Thata, Dr. Buhle Mbambo-Thata. I just learned how to pronounce it correctly this morning. She is the executive director of Library Services at the University of South Africa, commonly called UNISA. Prior to that, she served as university librarian at the University of Zimbabwe in Harare, Zimbabwe, a country to the north of South Africa as many of you know. In addition to her role at UNISA, Dr. Mbambo-Thata is active in IFLA, that's the International Federation of Library Associations and Institutions. She is currently a member of the IFLA governing board having previously served in numerous other IFLA structures. She is a member of the Strategic Advisory Network of the Global Libraries Program of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. She has previously served on various committee affiliations including the Library Network of the Association of Commonwealth Libraries, the E-Knowledge Society for Women in Southern African of which she was chairperson, the advisory committees of EIFL Found.net, the Gender in Africa Information Network and the Access to Learning Award of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Her research interests are women and ICT, ICT applications in libraries and library services for mobile devices and so, now, Dr. Buhle Mbambo-Thata. [ Applause ] >> Thank you. It is so generous of you. [ Pause ] >> Colleagues good morning. I'd like to acknowledge Mary-Jane Deeb, the Chief Librarian of the African and Middle Eastern Division and the cosponsor of this event and Kirk Rascoe from the Opportunity, Inclusiveness and Compliance and deputy president of the organization Great appreciation to Laverne Page who after many years of conversation and meeting her and knowing her at IFLA, we finally agreed on this. I'll-- I'm not disappearing, I'm just making sure I've got my cards, agreed that next time I'm in L.A. to come and share what we do at UNISA around delivering services largely to students living with disabilities. For us in South Africa with the post-apartheid or the apartheid history, after 1994, the country focused a great deal on inclusiveness because of many, many years of exclusiveness. And so you'll find that the philosophy of inclusiveness permeated many sectors, many professions, but in education, it was even greatest because education was seen as a tool that would build the future generation in more inclusivity. And so there was a greater focus within the education sector to build programs for inclusion and in my university, we've taken that in a great deal. The outline of my presentation is typical that, you know, I took a little bit about of our context but our background, it will be largely what it is our national context, what informs what we do and then I'll talk about the vision and the mission of my university, and then spend a little bit of time or most of my time talking about the services that we offer to students with disabilities. I don't know about here but in South Africa people that live with disabilities have made a statement known to all of us that it's nothing for us without us. And saying that we shouldn't be speaking only our behalf but rather we should repeat what they have said. And so in terms of defining what services and defining what interventions, the cue is taken from people living with disabilities. And in our context too I was going through the list last night wondering if I should put this slide indicating what is defined as disabilities and, but I'll need 17 slides to do that because the list has increased. It's gone beyond hearing impaired and sight impaired and people in wheelchairs but includes diabetes as well, high blood pressure, diseases that impair your full development. So chronic, many chronic diseases in there and so it's become less obvious to recognize who is disabled and the notion of identifying and responding becomes a little more challenging. In my country, as you know, we have 11 official languages but outside the 11 official languages, there's about five other nationalities, minorities that are not included in those 15 languages. And so the cultures of those smaller communities are not One of the main languages spoken in South Africa is isiZulu and a dialect of that or relate-- I shouldn't say dialect because that sounds like Zulu is the supreme, but other related languages, Nguni family, Swati and isiNdebele. And the word for people with disabilities is isilima but that word itself says there is something wrong with you. And because you are defined like that, you then are looked down on and one of the things that government has sought a great deal to do is to put in place legislation and government interventions that will provide a legal instrument within which then cultural practices can be subsumed. Two years ago when government was reshuffled at a ministry called Women, Children and People with Disabilities was created. And it was felt that it's important to have a full department that looks at issues of people living with disabilities but putting together the issues that have to do with women and children. This is almost really putting a department to look at groups that have been disadvantaged. And those three were lumped together and being led by a very able minister, Minister Thande. And in that a group that was called previously a pressure group called the Office on the Status of Disabled Persons or SDP was then subsumed and that became a department of the ministry other than it just being a pressure group. And that group then advises the minister on terms that are appropriate for use in the different languages. So that is a cultural inclusion and the derogatory terms like isilima are then replaced and the easy word for people living with disabilities in Zulu is isiqhwala [phonetic] and that word is itself a word that does not demean a person living with disabilities. But the commonly used one was isilima because it, as we say in sociology, people generally like to exclude because then if you exclude maybe you'll have more resources for your group. But the word isiqhwala is seldom used but it described the same kind of person and so this department is focusing on definition of terms that are inclusive and that ensure inclusion in all the different languages. Within the higher education sector we have a committee of vice chancellors who meet around a body called Higher Education South Africa. And in that group there is a group for people that are living with disabilities, High Education Disability Services Association that is affiliated with HESA to ensure that in higher education people living with disabilities have a voice. And that is important again because in South Africa we see education as a critical vehicle for undoing the imbalances of the past, opening up opportunities of the people and enabling people to move from poverty to livelihoods that are better. And so the government established two very important legal instruments and one of them is the Employment Equity and Transformation Act. I think if you're not living in South Africa it's difficult to understand but if you've been reading our history you'll understand why it's so important for us to legislate because we believe the best way of undoing the evils of apartheid is to undo the legislation that supported and strengthened apartheid and put in place legislations that promote inclusion. But it is also critical that following those legislations there are instruments for monitoring and reporting so that you don't just end up with a legislation that nobody obeys. And so the Employment Equity and Transformation Act makes it mandatory for institutions to report annually on stat-- and give a monitoring report that indicates what people of a certain race are appointed at what level. How many people living with disabilities are appointed at what level? How many males and females are appointed at what level? And the government believes strongly that it is its responsibility to monitor what organizations do so that the act is put into being and is not left to the goodwill of CEOs just to write the plan. Writing the plan itself is not sufficient, it is monitored and it is reported and there is a penalty for noncompliance. And so in many institutions in higher education the monitoring of the act sits with the principal's office, with the vice chancellor's office, and he becomes or so she becomes the accountable officer and if there isn't compliance to the targets that is set or to the national targets, the vice chancellor is then held liable. And in the private sector, the CEO is then held liable and there is a penalty. It is fact though to say that there are some organizations in the private sector that will budget for the penalty. And we find it sad that there are people in this day and age who are still willing to continue discrimination and pay their way through and pay their penalty for noncompliance. But in higher education and in my university in particular, the vice chancellors say to us the day he has to pay a fine heads will roll. And so which means people like myself who head departments have a responsibility to ensure that in our department we are compliant. And we don't bring the university to disrepute and for me it's a lot more than just the statistics. It's really ensuring that the whole of humanity and the diversity of humanity enriches our work. So in addition to the Employment Equity and Transformation Act, in higher education, I now keep talking about higher education because that's the area where I work and where I can speak with confidence. In higher education, the education white paper which is the instrument that indicates, gives guidance to universities in higher education and schools as well, it is stated again very clearly that inclusivity in schools, in buildings, in services is mandatory. And again, education institutions are monitored for compliance to the education white paper, and there's a penalty for noncompliance. It almost sounds like a police state but it is not. There is a responsibility of ensuring that your democracy works and that in ensuring that in order to affect redress those that stand in the way of redress are made to pay. Within the institution, because there is a national instrument, national guideline, universities make it an effort to comply but my university makes an effort to go beyond just complying and I will talk about it just a little bit. Those beautiful bright lights, my university, the University of South Africa, it's sits on one of the five hills around Pretoria and we say that it's a gateway into Pretoria because as you're coming in from the airport it's the first structure that you see on your right. And it is the only dedicated distance learning university. Our mission is to be the African university in service to humanity and we often say that it's this great vision, rather our vision, is this great vision that makes us come up the hill every morning. We're working towards being the African university in service to humanity and we take our African mandate very seriously. Over the years, the institution has developed what we called a social mandate. Access to our university is not limited to certain strict academic qualifications that use general instruments that the minister gives that you must have passed high school in order to go to university, and we comply to that. But if you did not pass well high school and you'd like to go to university, we provide access to higher education by providing an access program that will enable you to earn certain credits and then go into university. So we see our open-- our mandate is increasing access to higher education, particularly for previously disadvantaged groups of people. We are secondly committed to delivering high quality education whatever people are. And so we don't just provide access to higher education but we ensure that it is high quality, and because our country is such a big country, the open and distance learning mode that we use seeks to bring the education to you for you don't have to leave work. If you're a woman who has got children, you can bring up your children as well as work on your degree. If you are a person living with disabilities and are housebound and can't get out, you can study and we'll bring the materials to you. Thirdly, we seek to remove barriers due to distance, technology, isolation and disability by bringing education to you. And fourthly, to utilize all means possible to deliver knowledge, regardless of where you are, regardless of your technology, regardless of your space. And this is very important for us because as you know, There's a first world, high tech, and a whole range to a fourth world with no electricity, no running water, no running sewage. The University of South Africa seeks to provide education In compliance with the government instruments, but also because of that vision as well as the social mandate that we have set for ourselves, we've included in our strategic plan but annually in our institutional operational plan, we include in goal 5, create an enabling environment for persons living with disability. And these may be students but also including staff. We've also crafted an employment equity and transformation plan which seeks to support the university's commitment to diversity We have often said that history roped us in South Africa by judging people and their abilities based on what they look like. And the commitment of all the post-apartheid governments has been to reverse that. That people's abilities are more than whether they sit on a wheelchair, whether they are tall, or whether they are short, or whether they have one eye or none at all. But their abilities are deeper than what you see of them. And in our employment equity and transformation plan, we seek to enhance humanity regardless of what the person looks like, black, white, yellow, short, eyes, Important thing, you are a human being, what can you bring to the table. And, the vice chancellor's office monitors the performance of each department against that. And so, each department must produce an employment equity report at the end of each year and say what its targets are and how far they've gone against that. And relating specifically to people living with disabilities, universities established an advocacy and resource center for students with disabilities which does two things mainly, and the first one is to support students at registration. And so at the point of entry we are able to include those students and help them with registration by setting up a separate office. And the advantage of that is it helps us to identify at entry point who is and who is not disabled. And so we can then tailor services accordingly. And so this center then establishes a database from the beginning of the year of how many students have entered university or are within university that are living with disabilities or what kind of disabilities. And secondly, this center has an advocacy and training role and the training is not only limited for students but also for stuff. For example, it gives us lessons in sign language, those programs on disability awareness and help the university really respond in an equitable manner to people living with disabilities. And even within this university-- the university, as colleagues will remind us, And so this great big university that I keep talking about has many students and I was saying to Mary just now that for many students with disabilities we've become a university of choice and I'll come back to that just now. We have, as you can see we've had a steady growth over the years and this statistics is from the January enrollments were 290 and as of the enrollments of June, our numbers have gone up to 371,000. And the reason we grow is not because we like to be big. The reason we grow is because we'll provide access to high education to anybody who wants it. And so, some will say, some of the people that we have should not be university material. Who says, who says who's not university material? You work your way up and your circumstances don't determine where you end up and so at UNISA we open that and because we do, because we have these many numbers there is indeed proof that there is a need for reaching people wherever they are. Our students all over the world, the bulk of them are in South Africa, 26,000 on the continent is a lot of people, that's a full university. The rest of the world, we reach people. I met somebody the other day who said they were living in California and they are our student. And those were not provided information of where they stay [inaudible], it could have been an area, it could be that they were between places but is a small number. And so our students are really in a global village. The vice chancellor that I served under when I first got to UNISA 5 years ago said to us that the-- let's just go back, said to us that each department has a responsibility to ensure that it is aligned with all key instruments of the university. And especially those instruments for which he must account to government. And he was a tough a man. He is a lawyer and an Anglican priest, an ordained Anglican priest. And I said to him once, you're a difficult person to please because you only answer to God and the law. [laughter] But he's an established human rights activist. He was the chairperson of our human rights board for many years and very committed issues of human rights and say, this is how we're going to do it and if as an executive director you fail, you fail in this, you know that-- let me receive you resignation because you're not taking us forward as a university. And so the library and any other department for that matter has made sure that we support the programs that seek to bring transformation to the university and in line with our presentation today, programs that support our disabilities. On the library side, we have established the library disability forum which is a watch dog for our clients with disabilities. And we established it so that the staff had a place where they can get together and discuss what services should we be offering. What are the experiences that they're having? How should we be responding to the changing needs of our clients? What are some of the things that we should be doing and doing differently? And so, a library disability forum was established. We've toyed around with employing staff that are dedicated to serving students with disability and-- but a month ago, we shoved that idea because we felt that all staff that work in the library must have the skills to deal with students with disabilities. So just not a few selected people but that all of us can respond to the needs of the students because it is not always that only Anna will be in the library, or Anna will be in the library when a student walks in. But all of us as library staff must be able to respond to the student need, whatever it is. So we are working with-- we have worked over the years with the program of awareness but we're turning that now into skills, getting lessons in sign language, getting lessons in maneuvering wheelchairs, getting lessons in working with equipment, different types of equipment, and for those that, other disabilities that are not physical like diabetes we've made a link between the health and safety part of the library which includes having Red Cross and first aid on each floor together with this forum for disability so that should someone collapse and their machine says or the chain on their arm says they are diabetic, we know who to call, to attend before the ambulance arrives. We also offer such a number of services to the-- to our students. The first one is the sign language interpretation that we are all learning. I must tell you it's harder than learning French. But we're working on it because we're committed to learning. But because our skills are not yet perfected, we can use the services of ARCSWiD, the center, the resource center for students with disabilities. Entry to the university is free for students but if you're bringing in a partner, there is a charge. You get a day pass to come in. But we've waived that pass or day pass for people accompanying people with disabilities. You know, your guide, your family member who comes in with you to assist you. We waived a charge for that. We also don't allow pets in the library. They're part of your equipment and they are allowed in. And regardless of what disability you have ranging from those that we can see and those that we can not easily recognize, once you're listed as being disabled, you get an extended loan period for your loaning materials, because that means there's something that inhibits your actual learning process and therefore we give you more time to use resources. We've got specialized services for staff that are on wheelchairs and I will show you a picture of how we [inaudible] in the new building as you're busy renovating our old building. Within the library, we also keep wheelchairs because they can be temporary physical disability. If you're diabetic and your sugar has dropped, you'll need help. And so we keep wheelchairs for those sorts of temporary disabilities. And then a special parking close to the library, close to the ramp, for staff as well as for students. We've increased in our e-Collections because we find that it's a lot easier to translate those into languages that people with disabilities use and we try and use as much of the mobile technology so that again, because we are a distance learning institution that the persons don't come to the library for interventions. And I'll speak specifically about the technologies we have invested in. In addition to the lessons that we get from ARCSWiD on sign language, we've also invested in SignGenius which is a set of video clips to learn sign languages. And for us in South Africa, it's a challenge because of our many languages. And so we, unfortunately, at the stage that's translating from English and Afrikaans. But most people work with those two languages 'cause those are the languages of the marketplace. And we all are working at learning the sign language. We've also invested in something called EasyConverter. But in addition to all those things that it can do, converts to printed text, converts text to MP3, DAISY, Braille and large print. We've also invested in paying for that because while there are exceptions in the copyright law in the country for services for people with disability, we have a challenge of numbers. We have over 1500 students that are sight impaired. And because of the many translations that we do into those different languages, the rights organizations decided that we would have to pay for some of the conversions because it's too much. But we're negotiating with them, that it should really-- volume should not be the issue. If there is exceptions allowed for education, volume should not matter. It's human beings for whom we need to provide the service and do need to translate that text into MP3, into DAISY, into Braille in order that they may learn. We've also invested in several Dolphin Pens and we loan this out to students and try to ensure that it's our centers. Students can work with this Dolphin Pen so that then again, they are able to download software that they need to use into a Dolphin-enabled PC. It's a huge investment for us as a library but again, because our IOP, our organizational operational plan has committed itself to providing a service and creating an environment for people with disabilities to learn, we have to fund that commitment. A number of other instruments we have invested in, the Merlin Desktop Magnifier is for people who are partially sighted and it enlarges the page that you can read. The book reader that you see is in audio. It will read and then it will be in audio but also can translate it if you get another software into Braille as well. We recently had an audit and one of the things that were being audited was our services for students with disabilities and Murphy's law, that morning, the scanner didn't work [laughs]. Fortunately the student vouched for us that it always works [laughs]. A number of other technologies that we have invested in and as you can see, a lot of them are mobile because we loan them out to the students and they can use them at their homes and the book, BookCourier, the audio book player and we buy a lot of audio books. And the ones if we don't buy that are only available in print, the tools convert them to audio so that then it can be played back, the BookSense and the ClassMate player. I think earlier that for many of us, students with disabilities, we've become a university of choice and that is because of this sort of services that we bring. Firstly, if we have many complications that or you have disability that makes you embarrassed to be out in public and there are many forms, you know, maybe severe deformity. Maybe you've had chemo and you've lost all your hair and you don't really want to go out out there, because we bring the service to you and this, we've become a university that enables you to learn whatever your condition is. For many students who are on wheelchairs where it's difficult to get around a university, it is a lot easier to learn from home, and so we've become a university of choice. But then what goes with that responsibility is being able to invest in this sort of technologies that enable people to learn by converting what is largely printed text into formats that can be used. If iPAL scans prints and converts it to text, or sends it to Braille or displays it for the blind and the deaf blind. This is a very recent acquisition but it works faster than any of our other technologies and is loved by our younger readers because it is fast. But its only disadvantage is that only one person can use it at a time and we can't keep there the text. But we are working on a way of ensuring that the student can take their bit but if it is the course that is, that they are doing and there are other students with similar disabilities, we can take from that conversion and keep the file for other students with similar disabilities. But we're not scanning the same document over and over again but can make it then available to other readers that have similar disabilities. You've probably all seen this ZoomText keyboard that is with raised keypads. Again, it makes it easier for people that are living, that are hearing-- sight impaired to work with because the keyboard, the keypad is raised and it is large and bright and that. And this is my favorite picture of our favorite student Sheppard [phonetic]. He is in the library everyday in the morning and is doing a master's. And he sits there at his desk. He's our greatest ambassador for the services that we bring and we've often said to Sheppard, you know we can bring these things to you at home. But Sheppard comes to us because he doesn't have electricity at home. And he's overcome, he's totally blind. He's doing his master's and he says, if it wasn't this technology he wouldn't be where he is. And it's one of my favorite pictures and for me it says, gives me a reason to get up the hill every morning. Again, that's a workstation with a raised keypad. What I also wanted to show was that the workstations-- we've invested in workstations that allow not only for students with disabilities like that but also workstations that allow for wheelchairs. So most of our disability workstations are huge and you can wheel in a wheelchair and work comfortably. This is what I said earlier that we ordinarily give people 30 days to borrow books but for people living with disabilities, it's 42 days and we can extend it depending on where you're located, what your circumstances are because you require the service and then new building. We're working on a new building. We're busy getting our 8 floors to get services, more services and you'll see that the bottom picture shows a wheelchair and we're having a lot more room spaces that are going to be wheelchair-friendly and much more accessible to readers and they'll be at level 2. So it's easy to go from the car parking lot into this work area. And we're really excited that we could have this service expanded in the new building that we're having. Our library is committed to inclusiveness. As you can see in this recent celebration on library week developed at your library that even with students that are living with disabilities, we are really committed to ensuring that human development is possible within our library. And in conclusion, University of South Africa is committed to bringing knowledge and creating knowledge for all communities regardless of physical condition or your disability. Inclusion is central to UNISA services not only in order to comply to the government instruments but our vision compels us that we do that. Ensuring equal access to learning content regardless of your ability or disability and we invest in those gadgets that I've talked about in order to ensure that you get access to learning content. Our social mandated demands of each one of us who works at UNISA and our vision compels us to do it. I thank you very much for your attention and for this opportunity. [ Applause ] >> Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> Thank you so much. Perhaps, there are some questions that you'd like to ask. And so why don't I just leave you. >> All right. Thank you. If you'll pardon me, I'll say yes because I don't know your names please. Eve. >> I have a kind of two-part question and a lot of this [inaudible] I'm a former teacher. And I was a given a class of Special Ed students without the knowledge they were Special Ed which is you know [inaudible] instead they're diagnosed with learning disabilities at different levels but then they're not addressed in their educational plan. And I wanted to find out 'cause the university has some things in place where students who have those learning disabilities that may not be [inaudible]. Do they have to be in place to assist those students in diagnosing those disabilities? And then the second part of my question is about polio, the resurgence of polio which I think is worldwide phenomenon and that you know, previously had been addressed and now they're seeing more people coming up with polio and all of those very limiting disabilities that come along with polio and is that something that is happening in South Africa and [inaudible]. >> Okay, yes. [Inaudible Remark] Oh, all right. Let me repeat the question. The first one was about a disability diagnosis. Does the university have a mechanism for diagnosing? And the second one is about resurgence of polio and to what extent we're experiencing that in South Africa. Usually, the disabilities, learning disabilities are diagnosed in high school and primary school. By the time they come to university, they are labeled or they've been diagnosed. And so, and I use labeled because some students were labeled. [Inaudible Remark] Yes. ADD or whatever and then respond but some students have been diagnosed. And so a report, I've got this challenge and the university simply responds to the diagnosis. We don't do a test but we have, the ARCSWiD helps us if there is a student who's failing to cope to help them to get diagnosed. So the university doesn't provide a diagnosis. What ARCSWiD also does is to help the university staff, train university staff to respond. How do you respond to ADD students? How do you respond to this? And so they provide a training for the staff in order to learn how to respond 'cause it's difficult. Polio, there is a resurgence all over the world and four years ago, even before that, the minister of health Nkosazana Zuma had a very aggressive approach to the vaccinations and vaccinated people below a certain age. So we haven't seen any increase in disabilities within South Africa due to polio because of the very aggressive intervention of vaccinations against polio. But indeed there's a resurgence on the continent. There was another-- I'm going lengthwise, I mean this way wise-- clockwise-- clockwise? >> [Inaudible] center of disability services and the university or are there other people like you in other areas of this, the university are on the same [inaudible]. >> The university has established ARCSWiD. We call it ARCSWiD which is the center for students living with disabilities. And theoretically, there should be a lot of us like me doing different things in different parts. But because of the nature of our university, between registration and exams, what most students have is the library. The interaction with their supervisors are largely online or by post or on the phone. But the library is the reality of most students and so I always joke about, yeah, okay, well register as many as we can and between the exams and registration I get all 370,000 of them. So we've had to be active because we then must deal with these, registered 1600 students living with disabilities. What is the college of law only it is with 50. And college of human sciences deals with 25 and the college of-- and we deal with the bulk of them. So we have to need to be active and ARCSWiD says if only all departments were like us. But it's not because we want to be good. It's because we have no option but to do this in order to provide a learning content to all our students. Yeah. But all-- all departments must comply to goal number 5 which is creating an atmosphere for students living with disability, learning [inaudible] for students living with disabilities. So there's a mandatory requirement for everybody to be like that. We've just stand a little bit more because we must, they are here, they're in our doorstep, yeah. And you, Peggy [phonetic]. >> Again, thank you very much for your very, very important and very interesting presentation. I wanted to ask since you're identifying new forms of disabilities [inaudible] as you were saying, is there is a research part of the university that is creating let's say new technology. You've shown us very interesting items that [inaudible] with some audio and others. As the disabilities [inaudible] do you have within the library or within the university a research department that is creating technology that is using the people's own statements of what they need as you were saying earlier. You need to have people's input that is work on developing new technologies to assist disabled people. >> Thank you for that question. It's really something that we ought to be doing. But we are not doing that. We're buying the technology. [Inaudible Remark] Yes, we buy the technology because it's easier. But the center for-- ARCSWiD, the center for students living with disabilities helps us to identify the technologies and helps us to keep track of what new, of what is new, what has been researched elsewhere, what has been-- precisely because it keeps emerging. There are some people who are focusing on research and discovering and doing this and at this stage, what we are doing is buying from them. It's a lot easier and a lot quicker for us, yeah, yeah. But the scanning of the horizon is done for us by the disability center, yeah. I hope that helps. Yes, vice-president. [ Inaudible Remark ] Yeah, I think a person like Sheppard is so determined he will make you pay whoever you are. He's so determined to go forward. But the government has put aside a better scheme for people that are disabled and different tiers of that, I mean disadvantaged and different tiers of disadvantaged get certain portions of government support. The university also gives scholarship to assist students that are deserving like Sheppard and many kinds of assistance. I think the university's commitment is expressed in so many different ways. We had recently a colleague who had a condition that ate away their psychomotor system and they lost ability to use their hands and eyes within three years, you know, from an able man to all that was left was voice. And when he retired, the university lets him take the equipment he was using to continue using. So we follow through with our investment. It cost us money but there are some prices we're willing to pay because we are committed to the vision and the government is also very committed and it must be seen to put its money toward instruments so students with disability is like Sheppard get assistance from the university. >> I'm just wondering during the era of apartheid, was the university open to all races or was it restricted at that time? You said you're a distance learning university, people didn't have a physical presence anyway, so I'm just wondering if there was segregation at that time? >> The university provided education for people across races but black people didn't come to graduation. It provided opportunity for learning for people that were on Robben Island, so a lot of people who were in detention in Robben Island like Nelson Mandela got their degrees from UNISA. But the black people would not come for graduation ceremonies. When things were relaxed a little bit in the '90s, they would come to separate graduations to the extent that after 1994, there was a special graduation ceremony for people who had been on Robben Island and a series of graduation ceremonies for people in Robben Island and for people who had caught their degrees from UNISA but had not walked across the platform in graduation. Again, our attempt to redress. It is sad-- it is our sad history that we continue-- we did provide education to people but would not let them celebrate their success through a graduation. And during apartheid days, again, the entrance requirement was stricter. It wasn't as open as it is now. The entrance requirements were stricter. They still had lots of people registering because the fees were slightly lower, many black people could afford the fees, but with the knowledge that you will not celebrate your success with graduation. >> Thank you. Thank you very much for the [inaudible]. [applause] I would just like to add something. Because we are here at the Library of Congress and because we are always increasing the knowledge base here, the publications that we have, we have material here at the library on disabilities in South Africa. We have texts related to law, relating to laws. We-- I noticed the use of terms inclusiveness as opposed to maybe crippled and it's interesting looking at the subject headings. And so for researchers who have an interest in this subject, come to the library. We have material on it as well as going to South African libraries for additional information. But thank you very much for coming today. Thank you, and thank you Dr. Buhle Mbambo-Thata for coming. [Applause] >> This has been a presentation of the Library of Congress.