>> Announcer: From the Library of Congress in Washington D.C. [ Silence ] >> Steve Winick: Well, we're here at the Library of Congress. And we'll be talking with Yvette Landry and Richard Comeaux and Beau Thomas who are Cajun and honky tonk musicians from Louisiana. My name is Steve Winick, and I'm with the American Folklife Center here at the Library of Congress. So, let's start out by talking about a little bit of what's been in the news lately. You guy guys are from Breaux Bridge I understand. >> Yvette Landry: We are. >> Steve Winick: How's it doing after the floods? >> Yvette Landry: It's been three and a half weeks and we still have some water there. It's gone down a little bit but it was pretty bad. I have to say it was pretty bad. >> Steve Winick: Are people, are people managing to cope or has there been a lot of evacuations there or? >> Yvette Landry: No. People are managing to cope. We, it kind of speaks to our culture. We don't, we don't really wait for anybody to come in and help us. We just sort of do for ourselves. >> Steve Winick: Right. >> Yvette Landry: And where we live everybody has a boat, everybody has an SUV. I mean everybody has got, you know, something. So, when the rain started and the water started coming up, people evacuated immediately. You know, we had neighbor helping neighbor kind of thing. And the cleanup has been taking a while. Some areas still have some water and they can't get in yet. >> Steve Winick: Right. >> Yvette Landry: But slowly getting back to normal, but, yeah. >> Steve Winick: All right. Well, the rest of the country is pulling for you. >> Yvette Landry: Yes. >> Steve Winick: And wishing for a speedy recovery [multiple speakers]. >> Richard Comeaux: Talking about boats, I mean, I've never seen this ever. We have a drawbridge that crosses the Bayou Teche. The water was so high that a guy got in his canoe and paddled across the drawbridge. >> Yvette Landry: Over the bridge. >> Richard Comeaux: Over the bridge. >> Yvette Landry: Over the bridge. >> Richard Comeaux: Never seen that ever. Ever. >> Yvette Landry: It was about two feet [multiple speakers]. >> Richard Comeaux: May never see that again, you know? >> Steve Winick: Wow, that's amazing. >> Yvette Landry: Yeah. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. So, all right. So, in that area, is it mostly French culture? Were you growing up essentially bilingual? >> Richard Comeaux: I'd say bilingual. I mean, the roots are Cajun. >> Steve Winick: Right. >> Richard Comeaux: Cajun, you know, Acadians is what we're labeled as. You know, exiled years ago from Nova Scotia down to south Louisiana and yes we are Acadians and Cajuns is what we call ourselves short. But we are bilingual. I mean, we've all been educated and whatever. We can speak English too. >> Steve Winick: Right. Right. Well, I mean my question was more along the lines of whether all you also spoke French because not everybody in Louisiana does. >> Richard Comeaux: Well. >> Yvette Landry: And I'll speak to that because Richard grew up, he speaks French fluently. I do not. >> Steve Winick: OK. >> Yvette Landry: I was the first in my family and my brother to not speak French. And part of that comes from when my parents were growing up, it was frowned upon to speak French in school, so they got punished for speaking French in school. So, they would only speak French at home and they didn't teach us. And we were not taught French in school. So, some of my generation, like Richard and others, did pick up the language. >> Richard Comeaux: But it was not until after school. >> Yvette Landry: Right [multiple speakers]. >> Richard Comeaux: You know, after high school is when I learned in a little community, Henderson, right out of Breaux Bridge. >> Steve Winick: Right. >> Richard Comeaux: Most people, that's all they spoke. So, I had to kind of just pick it up. >> Yvette Landry: Right. >> Steve Winick: And so was it true for all of you that in school French was kind of discouraged? >> Yvette Landry: It was not taught in school at all. It was not. >> I learned it in the university and through traveling and learned it through the music of my culture. That's how I learned to speak and to write a little bit of French, but it was not encouraged in school. >> Yvette Landry: My grandparents spoke French fluently and my parents spoke French fluently. And they would speak to each other in French when they didn't want us to know what was going on. >> Richard Comeaux: Us to now what was going on. >> Steve Winick: Right. >> Yvette Landry: And that's how that went. >> Steve Winick: So it became the secret language. In other words, you couldn't know it. >> Yvette Landry: Exactly [multiple speakers]. Exactly. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. So, what was the music culture like when you were growing up? >> Yvette Landry: It's probably different for each one of us. >> Richard Comeaux: Different for each one of us, you know? >> Beau Thomas: Yeah. For sure. >> Yvette Landry: My grandparents were musicians and they played sort of a swing and what would you call that? >> Richard Comeaux: Dixieland. >> Yvette Landry: Dixieland. Kind of Dixieland music. So, I heard a lot of that growing up. Not necessarily them because they had stopped playing by the time I came around. But recordings and country music. That's what my family listened to. We didn't really listen to Cajun music. Richard has a different story. >> Richard Comeaux: And my influences were strictly Cajun music. My father was a Cajun musician. Back then lap steel. No pedals. Pedals weren't even invented yet. He played just a six-string lap steel with Cajun music, and that's what I grew up listening to. That's where I began. >> Steve Winick: And Beau? >> Beau Thomas: I don't know where I come from. No one in my family for ages back, generations, I cannot trace anyone back that played any musical instruments. But I grew up -- my family loved Cajun music and our culture. My family owns a Cajun food and spice manufacturing company. So, we certainly knew the culture and music, but I didn't grow up with it. >> Yvette Landry: I had some of the greatest Cajun musicians playing at a restaurant in my back yard. And until I started playing Cajun music 12 years ago, I didn't even know who they were. You know, Dewey Balfa and Octa Clark and all these guys played at a little restaurant called Mulate's in Breaux Bridge and -- >> Richard Comeaux: [inaudible] Thibodaux. >> Yvette Landry: [inaudible] Thibodaux. >> Beau Thomas: Yeah [multiple speakers]. >> Steve Winick: I've been to Mulate's [multiple speakers]. >> Yvette Landry: And I didn't even know who they were other than there was some music going on in the background [inaudible]. >> Steve Winick: Right. But you did hear it [inaudible]. >> Yvette Landry: But I did hear it [multiple speakers]. >> Steve Winick: Sure. So, that was certainly one of the contexts in which you'd see music. There was restaurants and dance halls and that kind of thing. >> Yvette Landry: Right. And we used to go to some things called, I remember the first time that I really took note of it was at a boucherie, and that's where you slaughtered the pig. >> Steve Winick: Right. >> Yvette Landry: And then all this stuff was made. And there was a, it was probably close to your house growing up, it has the, right by the overpass. >> Richard Comeaux: Oh by [multiple speakers]. That's where I learned to play the steel guitar. >> Yvette Landry: Exactly. >> Richard Comeaux: At his camp, matter of fact. >> Yvette Landry: And I actually have a picture of me; I'm probably about nine or ten years old holding an accordion. You know, I've got a little skipper hat on, you know, doing this. But I remember people would just break out instruments, everybody, you know, and you just start this jam right there. And so not only on the radio, or at the restaurant, but it was pretty, I mean, common to go to somebody's house and somebody just started playing music. >> Steve Winick: Right. So, what was your first instrument? Was it the accordion? Or did you start? >> Yvette Landry: No. My first instrument was the piano when I was three. >> Steve Winick: OK. That's a good starting place, isn't it? >> Yvette Landry: Yeah. I started with piano when I was three. And then when I was in the fourth grade, I started playing the clarinet. And through high school I ended up playing all the woodwind instruments. And after high school I closed the piano, closed all the other instruments and said, "I hate this. I don't like music. I'm never doing it again." Done. >> Steve Winick: Good luck with that, right? >> Yvette Landry: Yeah. Exactly. And then 12 years ago, I ended up going in a totally different direction and I bought a bass guitar and somebody -- I was just going to buy it to - my dad was, my dad had cancer. And so it was just sort of a therapy instrument. >> Steve Winick: Sure. >> Yvette Landry: I was just going to play it at home and somebody said, "Well, you know, there's a jam at this little store down [inaudible]." And I ended up going to that jam and here I am [laughs]. >> Steve Winick: So, you started with bass? >> Yvette Landry: Started with bass and then I went to accordion. And then when I first experienced that first jam session, it was in an old house, which they had converted into a store. And I opened the door. And there was this back room probably about the size of this stage. And they had maybe nine people in there from the age of two to 92, all just playing music. And I just went, "Oh, wow. What is this?" You know? I had never experienced anything like that. So, I started going and then I got all excited and I just wanted to learn every instrument. So, I borrowed, I told my mom, I said I want to try and learn accordion. So, she said, "Oh, I think [inaudible] brother might have an accordion." So, she called a friend of a friend and got that. And then I remember seeing a fiddle on the wall in my mom's house. And I said, "What's that fiddle?" She said, "Well, that's your great grandfather's fiddle." And I said, "Could I take that off the wall and maybe try and do that?" So, you know, I got that. And then a friend of mine had a guitar. So, I started learning all of them at once but I stuck more with the accordion. So, I was doing bass and accordion. And I tried fiddle. Not so much. Not so much. >> Steve Winick: What? But luckily you have, you have Beau. >> Yvette Landry: But luckily I have him [laughter]. >> Steve Winick: So, tell us about, Beaux tell us about your, how you started with the fiddle. >> Beau Thomas: I, kind of out of nowhere. My family had this spice company and we were doing a cochon de lait, roasting a little baby suckling pig for the Super Bowl Half Time Show in New Orleans. >> Steve Winick: Excellent. >> Beau Thomas: And there was Dan Rather and all these big guys walking around in $5,000 and $10,000 suits and piece of pig in their hand, you know, with a little grease dripping down their chin. So, my dad said, "Hey, boy," like the year before, "if I get you a Cajun accordion would you learn one or two songs and sit on the, by the pig and play the accordion?" I'm like sit by a pig and play and accordion? No, I don't know about that. And some little guy was with my sister and said, "Hey Beau, I bet you couldn't play a fiddle." I'm like, "Oh, I bet you I could." Well, anyway, I begged my dad. Three months later he finally bought me this fiddle out of nowhere. And I took it home. Within just a few hours I came down playing four or five songs that I had learned. And five and a half months later I went on my first tour half way around the world and started playing. That was 27 years ago and never looked back. >> Steve Winick: All right. >> Beau Thomas: Yeah. >> Steve Winick: So, fiddle was really your first instrument? >> Beau Thomas: I think so. Yeah. I mean, I played trumpet a little bit in high school and drums in a very small band, but terrible. >> Richard Comeaux: I remember playing with him about that time and it's like he came out of the womb with a fiddle. He played that good back then. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. >> Richard Comeaux: He's amazing now. But he was really, really accomplished even back then. I mean [multiple speakers]. >> Beau Thomas: And I didn't play as a kid [multiple speakers]. >> Richard Comeaux: We still talk about that back home how he just like came out the womb playing the fiddle. You know? Really. >> Steve Winick: Amazing. And so, and you've said that your first sort of influence was. >> Richard Comeaux: Was my father [multiple speakers]. Yeah. My father played Cajun steel but my very first instrument was an acoustic guitar at four. And I just learned and I had just a musically family on my dad's side. Every family reunion I couldn't wait because I'd learn something different. You know, because I had my cousins as mentors and they'd show me how to put my hands and then the ear kind of took over and then got home from school, 13 years old, walked into my bedroom and brand new pedal steel guitar at the foot of my bed. And my dad, and I'll never forget this. I turned around, looked at my dad, and he just watched my whole move. I said, "Hi, dad." Walk in from school with the book sack and everything. And my dad is sitting and my dad liked his beer, you know? So, he had his Schlitz beer on the table like that. And he just watched me, just around the corner like that. And, again, when I walked into my bedroom I just froze and the book sack just fell. And I turned around. And he goes, "There you are. I bought this for you." And I'm like, I didn't know the first thing about this thing but it just sat there. He puts the picks on. He says, "Now listen." He strums it and it's just this triad tune. It's an open tuning. It made a chord. I'm like I recognize that chord. And he said, "Yep, this one position. Here's another position. Here." This is pretty much basically how our Cajun music -- these are the three chords that you're going to play for a long, long time. Didn't show me the picking but then he gave me a couple people to just listen to. And I went out and sought out these, back then 45s and LPs, and I'd go to this camp where she first got her accordion thing at Ellis Trosclair's camp. And I'd spin these records on this stereo time and time -- I'd scratch it a little bit and put it back just to emulate these sounds. And, you know, that's how it came. And like Beau did with his fiddle, it, my steel picking back then in four or five years I was pretty much accomplished on the Cajun side of the music. But then I got bored. I wanted, there was more music going through my head until I discovered the pedal steel guitar. And when I heard it first I'm like this is what I want to play because the pedal steel guitar goes in depth and you, you know, you tune it like a piano. You have the scale. You can play notes. Not just the triad. And then I was mentored by this man, Milton Gilbo from back home who was accomplished back then. And he just started teaching me how this is structured. I actually had to let the Cajun music go. I had to put it in the garbage because you've got to think different. You can't let this chank-a-chank sound get in the way with what you're trying to do with the pedal steel guitar. Well, then I found out about this school in Nashville that goes in depth and teaches what all these pedals and levers do within the tuning. So, you take all this home. You don't learn it over there. You've got to take it home and spend thousands of hours to get your hands in all that. Well, lo and behold it's 42 years later and I'm at the Library of Congress. Go figure, you know? >> Steve Winick: Yeah. So, you know, it's interesting because I think a lot of people outside of Louisiana, if they think about Cajun music they'll certainly think about, you know, accordion and they'll think of fiddle and they'll think of chank-a-chank guitar, but they won't necessarily think of lap steel or pedal steel. But it was there. >> Richard Comeaux: It was. >> Beau Thomas: Oh, yes [multiple speakers]. >> Richard Comeaux: It was prominent in the '60s is when I guess [multiple speakers] and that's while. >> Beau Thomas: In the Cajun dance halls and night clubs is when it began to emerge. >> Richard Comeaux: And I play back home with a group now called High Performance that has Steve Riley in the band. Everybody on the planet knows who Steve Riley is. >> Steve Winick: Right. >> Richard Comeaux: But that makes-- all our fathers played together at one time or another. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. >> Richard Comeaux: We're the second generation. So, it's called High Performance and it's called Cajun music on steroids because it's powerful. It's really good. So. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. >> Richard Comeaux: But I'm playing pedal steel not open. I can emulate the same tones. >> Beau Thomas: But I will say not too long ago I dug up an old record, I don't know where it's at, and it was, you might have been 17 years old playing on an open tuning. >> Richard Comeaux: Yes. >> Beau Thomas: Maybe Jambalaya; it was fast. >> Richard Comeaux: Yes. Yeah. >> Beau Thomas: It was really fast. >> Richard Comeaux: Yeah. >> Beau Thomas: I'm not sure if it was all the way open. You may have had a pedal that brought it down the floor [multiple speakers]. >> Richard Comeaux: No. No. It was open. >> Beau Thomas: So, it was, it was hopping. >> Richard Comeaux: Just hopping. >> Beau Thomas: You might have been 17 or something. >> Richard Comeaux: Sixteen. >> Beau Thomas: Yeah. You were fast. >> Richard Comeaux: Yeah. Anyway. >> Beau Thomas: Amazing. >> Richard Comeaux: So, time goes, don't it? >> Steve Winick: Yeah. It sure does. So, Yvette, you mentioned that one of the people who played at Mulate's while you were growing up was Dewey Balfa, right? And I know that you played with Balfa Toujours. >> Yvette Landry: Right. >> Steve Winick: So, tell us about that. About how that was sort of being in that second generation. >> Yvette Landry: Well, let me tell you how I met Christine. She was living in Breaux Bridge at the time and I was at the Winn Dixie in Breaux Bridge checking out. And there was this girl standing in front of me. And, you know, we just like to talk to anybody. We don't care. So, she's standing in front of me and I said, "Hi." And she turned around and she goes, "Oh, hi." And I said, "I'm Yvette. Who are you?" And she said, "Well, I'm Christine. It's nice to meet you." And we're having this conversation and I said, "Well, what do you do?" And she said, "Well, I'm a musician." And I said, "Oh." And I had just started playing music. So, I said, "Oh, well, I'm starting to play music too." And I said, "What's your last name?" She said, "Balfa." And I said, "Oh, well, that's nice." I said, "Well, you know, I'm playing with the Lafayette Rhythm Devils right now. I started playing about three months ago," and I'm, you know, just doing this. And she'd say, "Oh that's nice. That's nice. That's nice." Still have no clue who Dewey Balfa is or the importance of Dewey Balfa or who I'm talking to at this moment. You know, so she said, "Oh, that's really nice." She said, "You know, we're doing a benefit for my sister, and if you'd like to come and play bass guitar that would be great." So, I said, "Sure." You know, it was right there in Breaux Bridge. So, that Sunday I ended up going to play with Balfa Toujours. Not a clue. I didn't know who Balfa Toujours was. So, the next weekend I'm talking to this little guy who started playing music the same time as I did, and he said, "So what did you do this weekend?" And I said, "Oh, I played with this band. What's their name? I think something like Balfa something." And he goes, "Balfa Toujours? You played with Balfa Toujours?" And I said, "Yeah." So, that's when I realized maybe I should kind of go check and see who these people are. [laughter] But, no, it's incredible to play with Christine. And she basically channels her father in that music. And if you close your eyes, you could be in 2016 or you could be in 1956 or you could be in 18-- whatever, you know? >> Richard Comeaux: You're right. >> Yvette Landry: So, it's been an incredible journey playing with them. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. I mean for a lot of people outside Louisiana, Dewey Balfa would have been the first Cajun musician that they heard. >> Yvette Landry: I think so. >> Steve Winick: Because he started going to festivals in the '70s. And that's, you know? >> Richard Comeaux: You're right. >> Steve Winick: Before that no one really knew what Cajun music was outside Louisiana and parts of Texas. >> Yvette Landry: Right. And he was a bus driver. >> Steve Winick: Right. >> Yvette Landry: I mean, you know? That's how people knew him as basically. >> Steve Winick: Right. >> Yvette Landry: A bus driver who played a little bit of music. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. But the other thing that I was always impressed with when talking to other musicians about Dewey Balfa particularly was the way he was just a mentor to so many people and so many people learned from him. And so it's great that you got to play with Christine and you get to play with Christine. >> Yvette Landry: Yeah. Yeah. >> Steve Winick: Because she was, you know, sort of the best student, the main student, you know what I mean? >> Yvette Landry: Right. Absolutely. >> Steve Winick: So, you know, the group that you played with today had those Cajun influences but also does a lot of what you call Louisiana honky tonk. So, explain that, those influences as well for us. >> Yvette Landry: Well, it's kind of like I said earlier to the group, I was not going to be a musician. And I ended up going to a Cajun jam; therefore I play Cajun music. I still wonder if I would have gone to a blues jam if I would have been a blues musician. I wasn't intending to be a musician. Same thing with writing songs. I didn't intend to be a songwriter, but when I did write my first song, it sort of came out with this country influence and possibly because that's what I grew up listening to, you know, I'm guessing. But when you add these guys to the mix, it's dance music I think more than anything else. I grew up as a dancer instead of a musician to that kind of music. So, when I started writing songs, I wanted to be able to write songs that you could dance to. So, we had that Cajun influence in terms of dance ability to the song. But when you add the steel guitar, it kind of brings in that country genre. And then when Beau came into the band, the two of them just latched onto this, they sort of did it. The song really didn't have, it was in the making. It was creating. So, when I just put it out there and just let those two guys take off, it just kind of came with this little Texas swing thing. And then when my son came on the drums, he's got that, it's natural, it's genetic in him and he just, so it came to be this little Louisiana swing honky tonk with a Cajun something or other. I don't know what it is. It just is. >> Steve Winick: Right. Well, you play some of your own songs but you also play songs that you've gotten from elsewhere. You know, cover songs of various people. So, how do you, what do you look for in the song? How do you find songs that you like? >> Yvette Landry: I have to feel it. That's the best way to explain it. And my mom, she's all the time, she's always sending me a text, "Oh, you should play this song. You should do this. You should do this." And I'll give it a try and sometimes it'll, you know, it's a good song, but I just, I don't feel it. It's got to strike something inside of me. I don't know how else to explain it than that. >> Steve Winick: That's good. And in terms of writing songs, I mean, you do write a lot of the songs. What do you, how do things strike you as song worthy? As being something you're going to write a song about? >> Yvette Landry: I don't really think I write the songs. I think I'm a vessel that the songs come through. There's not too many times where I've sat down and said, "Today, I'm going to write a song." What happens is I'll be doing something and then all of the sudden I'll say, "I need to go get my guitar." And then before I know it there's a song that comes through. So, it might be something I noticed, um, driving or something I heard somebody say. I remember one time I was cooking supper for my son and I was cooking a rice and gravy and all of a sudden I had that feeling, I just had that feeling of something was going on in my head and I said I needed to go get my guitar. So, I went in my room and I started kind of doing this little melody that was there and the words were coming and I'm writing this song. And then the next thing I know my fire alarm was going off and my house is full of smoke and there's flames coming up and I, you know, completely burnt the supper, but I had this song. And it was called, "Memories of Clelia," And it was about a dad who was contemplating suicide because he lost his daughter and his wife. Now, I don't remember ever hearing about that or experiencing that or anything. So, that's when I know it just, you know, that was something that, I was just the vessel to come out of. >> Steve Winick: Right. >> Yvette Landry: So, you know, and like I said I might be, the guy that I spoke with when I first started writing songs, he told me just pay attention and I really did take those words to heart. And if you pay attention, there's a lot of stuff to write about. >> Steve Winick: Right. >> Yvette Landry: I think I notice things and it kind of mulls over in my brain a little bit and then when it's ready it will come out. That's how I do it. >> Steve Winick: Yeah, well one of the ones you sang today sort of sounded like that because you said that you heard this phrase the house with no windows. >> Yvette Landry: Oh, yeah. >> Steve Winick: And you thought, oh that's a good phrase, and now you wrote a whole song around that. >> Yvette Landry: Absolutely. Yes. >> Steve Winick: So, how did that song come together? >> Yvette Landry: Oh, I was watching the documentary. It was like three in the morning. I couldn't sleep. And I just thought that was the most amazing thing, you know, like a house with no windows. It's just -- it's so vivid and visual. And I could see the imagery. And I don't know if you've listened to most of my songs they're kind of, I don't want to say they're man hating songs but there's a theme somewhere in there, you know? And it was just weird. It's, like I said, I didn't intend to sit down and write a song, bashing, you know, anybody. >> Steve Winick: Right. >> Yvette Landry: But it just came out. >> Steve Winick: One of the great things about that song I think is that, you know, you say, you know, one of your primary ways of writing songs is to pay attention. But that song if you don't pay attention, if you just sort of let it play, it sounds like it's a sweet little love song. >> Yvette Landry: Yeah. Exactly. >> Steve Winick: But you have to be listening to the lyrics and know what is going on. >> Yvette Landry: And sometimes before I sing it I'll introduce it like that -- I'd like to sing a little love song for you. But you have to be paying attention to really catch it. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. See if anybody notices what you're really talking about. That's great. >> Yvette Landry: Yeah. >> Steve Winick: So, that's sort of your, so your songwriting process is just sort of notice stuff or have stuff come to you. >> Yvette Landry: Yeah [multiple speakers]. Right. And like I said, and when these songs come, this is an amazing thing for me, I don't partially write a song and put it away and then come back to it or whatever. When they come, they just come. And within 10 to 20 minutes I'll have a song and it's written. >> Steve Winick: Right. >> Yvette Landry: And I may do a little bit of tweaking on it but it, you know, so that's why I say I don't, I really don't feel that I'm writing the song if that makes any sense. >> Steve Winick: I know what you mean. Yeah. >> Richard Comeaux: We get to the gate on Thursdays, we're like -- she says T, I got a new song. And I'm setting up my stuff. I'm like really? She said, "We're going to do it tonight?" I said, "What do you mean? You're going to throw me under the bus. I never heard the dang thing." >> Yvette Landry: Yeah. >> Richard Comeaux: She says yeah and she just plays it for me right there. Right there. So, we kind of map it out. Then we play it. >> Yvette Landry: Yeah. Yeah. >> Beau Thomas: It's great. >> Steve Winick: So, that was sort of my next question was how do you guys then take, you know? >> Richard Comeaux: Just like I just said. >> Yvette Landry: Just like that? >> Richard Comeaux: T, I got a new song. >> Beau Thomas: It's like FTD flower arrangements while you wait, you know? >> Steve Winick: Right. >> Beau Thomas: We just put it all together. >> Yvette Landry: As a matter of fact, when we were doing sound check earlier, Beau had never heard, I had put the new waltz that I had wrote, or that came out just a couple days ago, and Beau had never heard it. And I said, "OK. If we have time, we're going to do it today." So, I just start playing it and they'll just, as a matter fact, on the plane, I told him on the plane. >> Beau Thomas: Yeah. >> Yvette Landry: I had recorded it on the voice memo. And so he was listening to it on the voice memo. And he goes, "What key is it in?" And I said, "It's in E." And I could see him doing like this. He goes, "I'm learning it right now." So [multiple speakers]. >> Steve Winick: All right. Well, I think each of you is in other bands as well. So, why don't you tell me a little bit about the other musical groups that you play with? >> Yvette Landry: OK. So, I do, we do the trio. And then Richard and I do a duo. And then I have a full band, which is the Yvette Landry Band. We have a bass player Joe Butts and my son Trevor on the drums. I'm also a member of the Lafayette Rhythm Devils. I play bass, and it's a Cajun band. I still play with Balfa Toujours occasionally and I play bass in that band. Then I have a little trio called Le Ferais, which means brass knuckles and I play guitar and a little bit of accordion in that band. And we also have a Le Ferais full band, which has a five-piece band. So, right now, and then I'm just sort of a-- >> Steve Winick: [inaudible] as well? Is that still going? >> Yvette Landry: [inaudible] is still going, but I haven't been with them for the last couple of years. >> Steve Winick: Oh, OK. So, yeah. >> Yvette Landry: Yeah. We got nominated for a Grammy and then that was a, that was a good point for me to close the door and then just kind of move in a different direction. So, that's what I did. And then I'm just a sort of bass player, guitar player, or accordion player for hire. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. It sounds like you have enough bands with or without that one. So, yeah. Yeah. So, what about you Richard? >> Richard Comeaux: I, again, play with Yvette every Thursday. We do this little duo. And we do this on occasion, the trio. That's like she said. And I play back home with this Cajun group I mentioned earlier, High Performance. And we do that on occasion. It's not a steady thing although it's two or three times a month. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. >> Richard Comeaux: And we have a couple of local country artists back home that are reputable in their own right. You know, Dustin Sonnier, Blaine Roy, and I kind of mix that and I have a day job as well. So, I do that and so plenty enough for me. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. >> Richard Comeaux: I did the big scene thing back in the '90s. I was lucky enough and got signed with a group to Capital Nashville, River Road, and we did the whole big picture of the recording in Nashville back then and traveled the country and parts of the world. And, you know, and just rode the wave and then the wave has to come down and then you go do something else. And right now the something else is what I'm doing and this is where I want to be. This is where I need to be, this is it. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. Being home is sometimes good. >> Richard Comeaux: Thank you. Thank you. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. I know it. And Beau. >> Beau Thomas: Awesome. I work with Yvette of course and I literally work for about 100 different artists on a regular basis. I do a little bit of a juggling act. A lot Louisiana artists. I do a lot of session work. I play with a lot of the same bands that Richard and I work together back at home. Cajun, country, jazz, blues. I do a lot of string arrangements and what not. I love to travel. Just, you know? >> Yvette Landry: Somebody told me one time, "Man, we went down to your neck of the woods, and you guys have about 100 Cajun bands but only like 12 musicians." >> Steve Winick: That's right [laughter]. >> Yvette Landry: Everybody just [multiple speakers]. >> Richard Comeaux: Everybody just floats. >> Yvette Landry: Everybody just kind of floats around [multiple speakers]. >> Richard Comeaux: But he's the number one fiddle when it comes to session and just playing. He's the one everybody calls. He's the bomb. The bomb. >> Yvette Landry: Same thing here. >> Richard Comeaux: The bomb. >> Beau Thomas: It's good to know. Yeah [multiple speakers]. There's a lot of great musicians at home so. >> Thea Austen (off screen): I have a question that maybe you can ask, which is, which we were talking about earlier which is just the, you know, Louisiana is known for Cajun Zydeco, but there's so many other influences from other parts of the South and just to talk about that because you played a lot of different styles. Maybe you want to talk about the history. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. That question is the fact that, you known, Cajun and Zydeco music are very well known as Louisiana music, but there's a lot of other musical influences throughout Louisiana and talk about what some of the other musical styles are that. >> Richard Comeaux: Oh, I could tell you it's the blues. Big time. >> Beau Thomas: Yeah. >> Richard Comeaux: He has it. I have it. She has it. But she mixes it in [multiple speakers]. >> Beau Thomas: It's evident in that old string music like the Rustic Ramblers and a lot of the 1920s and '30s string music that was popular. You could still hear that trace back from the Dixieland of jazz or. >> Richard Comeaux: It's not playing the straight [inaudible] seventh chord and that's the blues. And it's in our playing, in her singing, and everything. >> Beau Thomas: That's right. >> Richard Comeaux: It's just a natural for us. >> Yvette Landry: There's definitely there's that but then just surrounding our little Acadiana area. So, we have the Cajun. We have the Zydeco. We have the country. We have the blues. New Orleans is right down the road, so you've got the jazz, you know. We have more and more so people are coming in. So, they're bringing old time music. We have, there's Irish music that's there. >> Beau Thomas: There's German, there's a couple German communities. >> Yvette Landry: There's German. >> Richard Comeaux: Right. >> Beau Thomas: And there's African communities. There's a lot of influence from, it's literally the melting pot. >> Yvette Landry: You're right. It's a melting pot. And so all of that music from way back when will find its way even if it's just the tiny bit but it will find it's way in there. Yeah. >> Steve Winick: Right. Well, that accordion wasn't, wasn't American originally or African so, yeah. >> Yvette Landry: No. No. No. No. no [multiple speakers] the Germans [multiple speakers]. Right. And the reason why the Cajuns love it so much is it was so obnoxious and loud. And so for the dance halls, at first when they just had the fiddles playing, it, I mean, it was great music and the French music that eventually came down was fiddle music but it didn't work well in the dance halls because there was no amplification. And so when that accordion came, that was it. >> Steve Winick: Right. Excellent. So, speaking of being able to hear and maybe not being able to hear, one of the things that was, that I think was really interesting in the concert was when you started playing the Star Spangled Banner, you started to sign it. >> Yvette Landry: Yeah. >> Steve Winick: So, tell us about ASL and your connection there. >> Yvette Landry: Well, that was a spur of the moment decision to do that but I do teach American Sign Language at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. And people always ask do you have any hearing impaired people or any people who are deaf in your family? And the answer is no. I learned sign language because I was challenged. I'm a schoolteacher as well. And I started teaching self-contained special needs students. And I learned maybe, I was trying to teach them to read. And so I learned about 100 signs. And I switched schools and the new school actually had a deaf ed program. And so the first day of school I am walking on campus. And there's these two little boys that are walking down the side walk and they're signing. And I got all excited because I knew how to say good morning. So, I walked up to him and I signed good morning. And they stopped. And they looked at me. They gave me this look like, "Who are you? You know, "we know everybody that signs. We don't know who you are." So, this one kid started just signing 90 miles an hour and I just did, stop, stop, stop, I don't understand. And he gave me this look and he stormed off and he marched away. And I looked at the other little boy and I did, what? And the little kid goes, you know, like this. So, I'm watching the other kid and he goes and he grabs his interpreter and he is dragging this interpreter back and he stands up in front of me and he is just, I mean, hands flying every where. And the interpreter is voicing for him. And she is saying, "Who do you think you are? Are you making fun of me? Do you want to talk to me? If you want to talk to me, why don't you learn how to talk to me?" >> Richard Comeaux: Oh, wow. >> Yvette Landry: I mean, this little kid chewed me out. >> Steve Winick: He was not having it. >> Yvette Landry: First day of school. I was horrified. I was so heartbroken. And he just, he said, his last words to me was, "If you want to talk to me, why don't you learn how to talk to me?" And he turned around and he just stormed off. So, I taught that day, and I was just miserable. And I went home and I will never forget this. I was washing the dishes and I am just kind of looking out of the window replaying the whole thing in my head. And then all of the sudden I said, wait a minute, I told 400 other kids on campus good morning and I didn't have a conversation with them. Why do I need to talk to that kid? Why do I need to learn how to talk? Who does he think he is? So, I went to school the next day and I found the interpreter and I said, "Where's that little boy?" And she said, "He's over there." I said, "Go get him." So, she went and she grabbed him and she brought him back. And he's standing in front of me, you know, all attitude like that. And I looked at her, and I said I want you to sign word for word what I'm telling him. And so she said OK. So, I bent down and I said, "Listen here you little turd. Let me tell you something." I said, "I came on campus and I told 400 other people good morning and didn't have a conversation with them. So, there's no reason why I need to have a conversation with you, but I tell you what I will learn how to talk to you and when I do learn how to talk to you, I am going to chew your butt out just like you chewed my butt out." And I turned around and I stormed off and I went straight to the teachers' lounge, and I looked in the phone book and I found deaf services. And I called them. And I said, "Do y'all teach sign language classes?" And they said, "Yes, ma'am, we do." I said, "When do you start?" She said, "Well, we actually have a session starting next week." I said, "Good. Sign me up because you have until May 15th to teach me how to chew somebody out." >> Richard Comeaux: That's a good story [multiple speakers] >> Yvette Landry: Yeah. So, that's how I started with sign language. And I went to the classes and then I just sort of immersed myself in the culture. And I fell in love with the language and the culture. And, you know, so I loved it. And I did. And I chewed him out in May. And the whole time I was doing it he was just looking at me like that. And so I was all proud of myself when I finished, you know, like there. And he looked at me and he just went, "See, now you can talk to me." And I was like you little turd. You got the last word in anyway [multiple speakers]. But I'm so thankful that he did that. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. >> Yvette Landry: Because, you know, I've enjoyed it now for quite some time. >> Steve Winick: Well, Washington, D.C. really appreciates that. There's a lot of deaf education here. >> Yvette Landry: Yes. >> Steve Winick: And so people really, you, you know, see hearing-impaired people all the time. >> Yvette Landry: All the time. Yeah. >> Steve Winick: They do appreciate the signing so that was really nice. The other sort of non-musical thing that I think we should talk about is your books. >> Yvette Landry: Oh. >> Steve Winick: Because you've written a couple of books that are based around folklore. >> Yvette Landry: Yes. >> Steve Winick: And since we are the American Folklife Center, that's another thing that we're interested in. So, give us the run down on your books. >> Yvette Landry: It's so much. So, yes. I've written two books. And I've told this story twice already, but I'll tell it again. So, I never intended to be, I never intended to be a musician. And then here I am. >> Steve Winick: Right. >> Yvette Landry: I never intended to be a songwriter and here I am. And I definitely never intended to be an author yet here I am. And the first book came about from actually a music gig. I was offered to go play in Maine. This gentleman said, "You know, we have this guitar," what did he call it? "A guitar society that does concerts. And we usually have virtuoso guitar players come and you're obviously not a virtuoso guitar player, but I think you have something to offer so maybe we could ask you to come." And I'm thinking, why would I even go, you know? But then I thought, you know what? If you're crazy enough to ask me, I'm going to go and do this. So, I ended up going by myself, which was my first solo gig and I was so nervous. And he picked me up at the airport with his two children who were three and five years old. And they came to the airport and they were like running around like crazy, you know? And then they're hey, Asian Lady, are you coming to house? Hey Asian lady, are you going to do this, are you going to do this? And I remember looking at the dad going why are your children calling me Asian? And he said, "Well, I've told them now for a month that the Cajun lady was coming but they don't really know what Cajun is. So, they just assumed that you're Asian. So, we rode back and we got to their house, and like I said they were just three and five and full of energy. And I get out of the car and I have my guitar and I have my gig bag and I have my suitcase. And they are running around and they're like, "Are you gonna to play ball with me, are you gonna [talking fast sounds]?" you know, and all this stuff. And I'm there, what? And the youngest one, when I turned, he wanted me to watch him ride his bike. And when I turned he had taken off all of his clothes. And he had put on his dad's roller blades, which were like this big. And he is on his bike and he is riding all the around yard. And he is like look at me, look at me, look at me! And I'm thinking, the other one has tennis balls and he's throwing them at my head. And I'm there, what am I doing here? And all of the sudden, the little one gets off of his bike, kicks off the roller blades and starts running around the yard. And then all of the sudden he like freezes. And I hear this woman yell from the window, "Oh, my god, Levi, do you have to go to the potty?" And this is a kid who is frozen. He just looks at his mommy and goes, "Uh-huh." So, she comes running out of the house, almost knocks me off the sidewalk. And she picks up this kid and she flings him over and he's kicking screaming. And he's like, "I'm not going. I'm not going. I'm not going." And she would say, "But you have to go. You have to go." And all of the sudden he just, he stiffens up like this. And he screams at the top of his lungs. He goes, "I'm not going unless that Asian lady comes." So, the mom, the mom looks at me and she goes, ah, so I said, all right, you know? So, I dropped everything and we run in the house. And we get into, she just opens the door to this little bathroom. I mean, tiny. And she puts the little kid on the little [inaudible] on the potty right there. And then the five-year-old comes under the sink and he sits under the sink and she just kind of shoves me in and I'm sort of squeezing between the toilet and the wall. And she goes, "Thank you." And she closes the door. So, I'm sitting in this bathroom with these kids. And they're looking at me and I'm looking at them. And I'm going what in the heck am I doing? And so the little one, he is sitting on the potty and he just does like that and he goes, "Asian lady, tell me a story about Asian land." And it was in that moment that I made up a story about the ghost tree based on a tree we have back at home. We have the second largest live oak in the state of Louisiana at my grandmother's house. So, I made up this story about this live oak tree that on October 31st if you go into the swamp and you look at it, it will come to life and it will grow eyes and its mouth will open up and snakes will come out and it will turn you into stone and then it will eat you. And so, yeah, I mean, it was a very successful story I might add. And in the process it ended up begin a very wonderful weekend. And I wrote the story down to send to them and one thing led to another. Somebody read it. Within a week I had an illustrator, a publisher, and a book deal and there it was. >> Steve Winick: All right. >> Yvette Landry: So, that's how that came to be. And then my second one I intentionally wrote my children's book. Yeah. And that one is coming out at the end of this month and it's called "Madame Grand Doigt." And my grandmother used to tell me stories about her. If you were not behaving, she lived up in the attic in the rafters and at night her long fingers would come down and snatch you up and you would never be seen again. >> Steve Winick: Right. >> Yvette Landry: Yeah. Happy little children stories. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. Well, you know, sometimes those can be useful [multiple speakers]. >> Yvette Landry: Absolutely. Absolutely. So. >> Steve Winick: All right. So, we want to thank you for bringing copies of those books here to the Library of Congress. I know they've been added to our collections and we're really happy about that. >> Yvette Landry: Yeah. Yeah. >> Steve Winick: So, tonight you are going to play at the Kennedy Center as well. So. >> Yvette Landry: Yes. >> Steve Winick: So, more music. >> Yvette Landry: Yes. >> Steve Winick: Is there anything more that you folks wanted to say about your music? >> Thea Austen: Actually, Richard, why don't you talk a little bit about the fact that, just about when you were coming up there were a few other people your age studying pedal steel and now it's that [multiple speakers]? >> Richard Comeaux: Ok, What I want to say is that when I began playing steel guitar, I was 13. And back then I have three other friends about the same age as I, two or three years difference, that we all started playing the steel guitar at the same time. And we've all, you know, mentored, and we've all woodshedded together. We've been to the same training. A lot of get-togethers and sharing ideas and licks and whatever you want to call them. And it's 40 years past. And it's scary because there's nobody coming up behind us. And I've actually had, well -- I have another steel guitar. I have a couple of them. I've loaned one to a young guy coming up and I don't know if he's getting it or not. I don't know. It's just scary. It's scary that nobody is coming up. Now, they attempt it. And spent thousands of dollars. And they do what a lot of other people do. They get discouraged and put the dang thing under the bed and it rots there. So, you know, it's an instrument that, you know, you've got to fall in love with like I did right out the gate. You know, you got to, I went to bed, I remember with that thing right next to my bed. And I looked at it like I am going to learn this thing. But you have to marry it. And you have to be willing to sacrifice. Because it doesn't come easy. It's the hands, the feet, or the legs. It doesn't come easy. So, but if you work hard, it's a shame it takes this long, but you know, you can reap some of the rewards, but what we talked about it's scary that I have a son that is a great guitar player. Set the thing up in his room, showed him a few things. He tried. He is just like, "Dad, I just can't do it." He is an amazing guitar player but he is just not going to attempt the steel guitar. And there are a lot of others that are just afraid to do it. >> Steve Winick: Do you think it's just because it's so hard or? >> Beau Thomas: Too much work for me, I tell you. Yeah. I'm way too lazy. >> Yvette Landry: It took me 30 minutes to figure out how to put the picks on-- >> Richard Comeaux: I left it at her house one. Tell them the story of me leaving it at your house one day. >> Yvette Landry: He left it at my house one day. Do I called him and I said, "T, I said, you think I could kind of mess around with it a little bit?" And he said, "Oh, yeah. Sure." So, I sat there, I'm not kidding you, for 30 minutes trying to figure out how to put the picks on. I put them on one way and I'd try and it just didn't work. >> Richard Comeaux: And they fly off. See, you don't put them this way. You put them going straight up. >> Yvette Landry: It was weird. >> Richard Comeaux: At a 90-degree angle. >> Yvette Landry: I tried everything. None of them felt right [multiple speakers]. So, I called my friend in New York who plays steel guitar. And I said, "Thomas," I said, "I have a steel guitar in my living room," and I said, "I don't know what to do with it." He goes, "OK, Yvette. Listen to me. This is very serious. I need you to pay very close attention." I said, "OK." He said, "I need you to take the guitar, and I need you to go put it out in the yard." And I'm thinking is it, OK. He goes, "And then," he said, "go in the garage and get a gas can and pour gas all over it and light the match and run. Run as fast as you can." >> Richard Comeaux: Burn it. Burn. [laughter] >> Yvette Landry: He said, "Stay away from that thing." >> Richard Comeaux: Yeah. Don't go there. >> Yvette Landry: It's, I mean, you got to be an octopus to play that thing. And it's just, you've got too many things to do. Yeah. >> Richard Comeaux: But hopefully somebody will come around back home and kind of take off from where we leave it. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. >> Yvette Landry: Because when you hear steel guitar in a Cajun song, it's completely, it's a totally different beast then if you just have fiddle. >> Steve Winick: Right. >> Yvette Landry: So, it brings a whole new-- >> Richard Comeaux: In which I wanted to interrupt a while ago. You know, you talked about Dewey Balfa, how he has been like the guy that brought Cajun music all over the world and he has, but believe it or not you have two styles of Cajun music. >> Steve Winick: Right. >> Richard Comeaux: His style is what went across the country. My style isn't. We call their style the prairie type of Cajun music whereas we're like known as the Lafayette style. It's just a different rhythm. Totally different. Totally different. And believe it or not, the steel guitar where I come from drives the music along with the fiddle together. It's that power driven thing that we do, they don't do. >> Yvette Landry: And it's a lot like the language as well because the language from the prairie regions which is only about an hour away. >> Richard Comeaux: Not even. It's about 40-- >> Yvette Landry: Forty, forty-five minutes is completely different. >> Richard Comeaux: It's different. >> Yvette Landry: Than the French that we speak down, or that some people speak down our way. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. I think most people would notice that the music swings kind of differently. That would be sort of their way of feeling that difference. >> Richard Comeaux: It does. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. >> Richard Comeaux: But Steve Riley is from the prairie side. >> Steve Winick: Right. >> Richard Comeaux: But he is also a part of the mix with the High performance. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. >> Richard Comeaux: And he's probably to me the best accordion player on the planet, you know? That's what I think is the bomb. Although we have a young guy in the group that plays with more energy with the Lafayette style, that's incredible. But I'm talking for the pocket, the timing, Steve Riley to me is like the bomb, you know? Really. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. Yeah. Well, like I said, we love Steve and his band members have been here doing research and stuff. >> Richard Comeaux: Oh, yeah. >> Steve Winick: So, yeah, we've-- >> Richard Comeaux: Well, you know, Kevin the drummer. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. That's right. >> Richard Comeaux: That's Kevin's dad that got me my first gig [multiple speakers]. Yes. Yeah. >> Steve Winick: Wasn't, was Kevin's dad in the original Mamou Playboys before? One of their dads was in that original band that they're named after, but I can't remember. >> Beau Thomas: That was Mr. Vorance Barzas which was Kevin Barzas's father. >> Steve Winick: Yeah. Sounds right. All right. Well, I'm, you know, really glad that we've been able to talk about all these things. And I think talking about the pedal steel is really fascinating because it is that instrument that you guys have at the center of your sound that I think a lot of people wouldn't necessarily expect as much in a Cajun band because of what you said, the style that took off was a different side of Cajun music. >> Yvette Landry: Right. >> Richard Comeaux: Right. >> Steve Winick: But it's such a beautiful sound that adds that real sadness and heart to the music that I think is terrific. So, thank you so much for bringing your Cajun music and Louisiana honky tonk. >> Richard Comeaux: Thanks for having us. Thank you very much. >> Steve Winick: Thank you. >> Announcer: This has been a presentation of the Library of Congress. Visit us at LOC.gov.