>> From the library of Congress, in Washington D.C. >> Gail Shirazi: Hi, I'm Gail Shirazi, of the Israel Judaica section here at the Library. Welcome to today's program, "Violins of Hope", co-sponsored by the European Division, the Hebrew Language Table at the Library of Congress, in cooperation with the Czech embassy and the Rebean Chair at George Washington University. Two announcements before we start. Please shut your cellphones off or silence them, and the second one is that we are being webcast. And the part that will be scanning the audience is a question and answer period, so, if you don't want to be webcast and appear on the LC website, you can leave the room, stand in the corner, but just so you should know. Speaking of violins, I just want to mention that the Library of Congress has musical instrument collections. Our first collection was five violins of Antonio Stradivari. So, we have five, we may have more now but Stradivari's violins are here at LC. There's also a collection given to the Library by the King of Thailand, in 1960. To learn more about these instruments and other wonderful collections and treasures at LC, you can google www.loc.gov. This program was a truly cooperative effort. I would like to thank Grant Harris and Erica Spencer of the European division, Jennifer Gavin [phonetic] and Donna Herschel [phonetic] of our Public Affairs office. Galena Tavorowski [phonetic] of the Israeli Judaica section, Mary Fetscow [phonetic] and the embassy of the Czech Republic and professor Walter Reich [phonetic] at GW University and of course, Amnon and Avshalom Weinstein are presenters, and our violinist Hannah Tarley [phonetic]. It is a true honor to have these talented artists with us today, Amnon, a master violin maker, his son Avshalom, third generation luthier, and Hannah [phonetic], a world renowned violinist who just arrived today this morning from New York, and she has to leave at 2:00 because she has a performance she's giving in New York tonight. So, thank you very much Hannah, for above and beyond. She started playing the violin at age two and gave her first performance at age four. She's the founder and artistic director of "Notes by the bay", a new children summer music festival in California, and if you'd like to know some more information about her, there's some sheets in the back and some up front, because her accomplishments are too great to mention. Through their work with the violins, these dedicated and amazing individuals are giving voices to millions murdered in the Holocaust. We will start with the presentation by Amnon, then Avshalom and in between, Hannah will be playing. First, we have some opening remarks by Pavla Valeczicnova [phonetic], did I do it OK? Had a Public Diplomacy Department at the embassy of the Czech Republic, and then we'll start our formal program, thank you. [ Applause ] >> Pavla Valeczinova: Good afternoon, others. It is the greatest pleasure and honor indeed to be here in the name of our Embassy and, as originally the Ambassador was supposed to be, here and he sends his big apologies because one Congressman only confirmed last minute meeting with him, when your Ambassador's been here for a week precisely, right? So, sorry about that, really. "Violins of hope", for me in general, the terms of music, the Holocaust seem to be actually impossible to unite, and I love the title because that's what I feel when I think about Holocaust and music in connection. I feel that we must have brought hope and it must have been a hope for survival and a better world. Being Czech I immediately think about Czech composers or Czech - Jewish Czech composers that were stationed at Terezin [phonetic] start. There were about nine or ten of them. And as you probably know, the Terezin was a special case in the Nazi camp system, because it was the camp on show -- the ghetto on show so, it was also a mean of Nazi propaganda. So, that's why the music was also played over there. And there was a large number of musicians and artists in Terezin so, the Nazis used them very, you know, in the Nazi way, and they even did documentaries about this artistic part of the ghetto, of the example of ghetto. The Terezin composers Pavel Haas, Guideon Kline, Hans Krause and Viktor Oldman, we had several years ago, I think 2014 we had a very nice concert called "Phoenix from the ashes" and it was the music by these composers, and it was one of the strongest evenings we had at the Embassy until now. I -- to conclude, seeing these beautiful instruments, I'm thinking about one Holocaust survivor that I met some years ago in London, Alice Herz-Sommer [phonetic], she was a pianist, she was in Terezin and she died at the age of 110 years. Three years ago, in London. She was an example of positivity, and very funny, and that's immearly [phonetic] my thoughts tonight if you permit -- if you let me honor her and of course I'm looking forward to hear Amnon and Avshalom's stories and Hanna's beautiful performance. Thank you, and thank you Gail. [ Applause ] >> Amnon Weinstein: Good evening, ladies and gentleman. I'm very honored to be here at the Library of Congress. I'm afraid I may sound too pompose in English, so I will not tell you excited I am to be here today. Let me go into most solid ground and present to you our project, "Violins of hope". I would like to start with a personal story. My history with music started 100 years ago in 1915; my father was a little boy in Stechvlend [phonetic], east Poland. When he first time heard the sound of a violin. Ecclesial troop arrived there to play for a versi [phonetic] wedding, and while all the children set under the table trying to get some sweets, Moschele [phonetic] my father was hypnotized by the music. He approached the violinist and since then never stopped to love and to live music. If you may let us, the Cleisnard [phonetic] to live and so there's Moschele, he followed the wagon and the horses of the Cleisnard out of town. Just like the story of the flautist of Hamelin. His mother, my grandmother Esther, looked for him everywhere, until somebody said that the boy followed the musicians. Well, young people ran after the wagon, caught the little boy, and for many days everyone gossip about the punishment the boy got, also, about the violin he was given to play with. And he played it. He learned to play all by himself and later started in Vienna. This is how little Moschele was introduced to the Jewish musical tradition of the haram, this is how he joined many prodigal boys and girls, some who became the greatest virtuosos of Europe. The day that my father got his first radio simple violin, violin support project was born symbolically. As a young boy in Tel Aviv, in the middle of the '40s, I remembered many survivors who came to see my father at his workshop. He used to hug them and then hand them a violin and say, [speaking foreign language]. He would say those words, and they were the first words in the world that they will learn in jiddish. [Speaking foreign language] "Play a little bit". Soon, the guests and my father were sitting and playing a bit, loving a bit and playing the violins like they would never stop. As a little, boy who started taking violin lessons with a teacher, I remember asking one guess, how did he play without notes and books of music? "And the birds", he answered, "Do they sing with notes?" By the way, a very funny history ahead of this time, because all his classmates that knew to play, and to imitate birds, and my father had a cat in the workshop, and every time one of them came over, they ask him to imitate a bird, and the danny super. In the moment, the cat heard the sound, he was going like crazy in all the workshop to look after the bird. Years later, an experienced violin maker, I met Daniel Schmidt of Dresden, East Germany who came to study with me in Tel Aviv and became a close friend. Daniel knew a little of the Holocaust, he didn't learn it in school. Israel is different. The Holocaust is present everywhere and all the time with most people; Daniel was curious and soon met musicians who emigrated from Germany in 1936. This is when Boris Labrunmun [phonetic] and Arturo Toscanini established the Palestine Philharmonic Orchestra. Uberman [phonetic], addition Jewish musician, who lost position in German Orchestra, and those, had sell him their lives and their violins. The truth is that most Jewish violinist made on German-made instrument, which were on Sibert the very best at that time. By the way, Uberman was the Vunderking and as a child of nine, performed the difficult concerto of the composer Johannes Brans. Brans, set in the modules and rumors are saying that the old composer was touched to tears. In the last century, the violin was considered almost a Jewish instrument, popular in weddings and the most in young boys' education. So, many boys were forced to take violin lessons at age of five, and quite a few grew to be world famous. When Isaac Stern was asked why so many Jews play the violin he said, "It is an instrument which is the easiest to pick up and handle". As you know, many little managed to run - to pick up the violins, many were killed and the instrument confiscated by the Nazis. In fact, the Nazis confiscated thousands of violins, violas and cellos of Jewish violinists. Why? Why the few instrument, when the famously Italian made, most were very cheap, made purposely for plays in the kilometers. It is impossible to return confiscated musical instruments to their rightful owner. They outlay weigh, identified simple violin and prove that once upon a time, before that, it belonged to a Jewish violinist. But there is no doubt as to the rightful owner of violins decorated, is one or more star of the heaven. They were truly owned by lasemas [phonetic] to me, the cheap unsophisticated violins had no big name at that [inaudible], signified lost people. To me, that makes the project "Violins of Hope", to me the lovely decorated violins have emotional value, far better than money value. One day, I got a violin broken to pieces, practically to beat and shred, on its plastic bag. It took me about a year and a half to glue its broken bone and to put them together again, to fit its head and belly and restore the sound. It was much care and love that we brought it back to life, so it could play and reach out many people in the concert hall. Only when I glued the other part I discovered that this is beautiful. It is decorated with Five Star of David, made by Jacob Tieveman [phonetic], a Jewish maker who worked in Warsaw. It was probably made for a glasmer [phonetic] and played outside in rain and freezing snow, a witness to many horrible scenes. By the way, Jacob Tieveman was a teacher and mentor of my father. I must confess that each time I finish to restore a violin, I feel nervous, holding back my breath, until the minute I have the first note being played. Once the sound is heard, I start breathing again. It feels like the birth of a new child. Well, almost. After World War II, when the Holocaust became common knowledge, and survivors were back to Israel, there was a general boycott of German-made goods, so much so that the name of Germany was not mentioned on the radio. In this atmosphere, Varnemish [phonetic] refused to play on German-made instruments. Many came to my father and said, "If you don't buy a violin, I'm going to break it. I'll never touch it again". My father, who loved each and every violin, bought many instruments, violins, viola, cellos, and other to save their lives. Yet, realized that he could never hear them again. This is how we developed a big collection of German-made instruments of first rate. Back to my student, Daniel, he asked me one day to give a lecture and the Annual German and Violin and Bow Makers Association. He asked me and I refused. This went on for about two years, until 1999; interesting when I presented the German Association with 200 photos of violins and many more anecdotes and stories. Until then, for the past 20 years, I cannot stop talking about my collection, now sharing it with my son Avshalom, a collection of pan serving violins. My father used to say that all the children should learn music and practice the violin. People who play the violin, he believed, cannot be evil and violent. Well, he's to be proven wrong, as many Germans who worship music, were evolved in so many atrocities. But he was a naïve believer, my father. But, sometimes it is naïve people who make difference in this world. Listen to this story. Ilona Fair was a Hungarian violin virtue also, who somehow managed to stay and survive. When she arrived in Israel, she could not adapt to the life in our country and then, and she was unable to perform onstage. Ilona was desperate. She came to my father in tears. "You must give violin lesson to teach the new generation of Jewish children that in time will become virtuosos. You must continue the tradition of many violinists, who killed in Europe", he said. And she listened. And soon, he had listened to six-year-old [speaking foreign language], and so many other Israeli legends. We named the project "Violins of Hope", violins with history and personal stories. Many saved actual lives. Some violins survived by their owners' burials, some were hidden in the attic, one was buried under the snow, one was strung out of a kettle train in France, some came from Poland and Romania, some from Holland, many from Germany and Austria, when violin was played in the main orchestra in Auschwitz. All of them are restored as the best we can, and all 64 of them today play in concert in Europe and America. Two years ago, our violins played an unforgettable concert with the Berliner Philharmonic, in remembrance of 70 years to the liberation of Auschwitz. We also played concerts in Charlotte, North Carolina, Cleveland and lately Sarasota at Jacksonville, Florida. Since the premier concert in Istanbul, Turkey, and the concerts at the wall of Jerusalem, the violins do not quietly in their cases. After 70 years of silence, they refuse to keep quiet. Next year the reiterate Israel 70s in Nashville Tennessee. In Birmingham, Alabama, they will also play as socket concert in Dachau, the first Nazi concentration camp in Europe. There are sought by many and soon we hope, they will be exhibitioned and played in ten major American cities, where educational programs will be a part of their daily schedule as part of exhibition internationals. Last December, the project was awarded the Stumedal [phonetic] of Holmes, honor by the German government. This was also a piece of hope. I would like to finish with two stories that inspired our concerts. These are the stories of Alma Hauser and Emily Zend. Alma Hausen [phonetic] was born to musical royalty in Vienna. Her father was a famous violinist and composer Gustav Mahler was her uncle. Alma was beautiful and talented violinist who conducted a little orchestra of young women that traveled all over Europe. When time changed, she became the conductor of the Women Orchestra in Auschwitz. As such, she managed to save the lives of many women prisoners, but failed to save herself. In her memory, I would like to read to you a short paragraph of her biography. It took place while she was visiting her camps in hospitals, block ten Wilkenow [phonetic]. After dark, a woman prisoner named Magda handed a violin to Alma Hauser a new inmate in Block 10. 40 years later, Magda remembered when all was quiet, Alma began to play. Without words, she transported the prisoner of the block 10 to the world outside Auschwitz, far from hatred and inhumanity. Her music blossomed into memories of family, home, holiday and happy time. The docks on the back [inaudible]; the operating room, the excess doctors, the muffled sounds of the execution yard disappeared, beauty have long forgotten dreams in block 10 until that night. Nobody there who had dreamed of such beauty, as her playing that moment. By the way, the only recording left of Alma Hauser is the Bach double concerto which she played together with her father, Arnold Hauser. Now, Elie Wiesel [phonetic]. A few months ago, Elie Wiesel a writer, political activist and novel laurate, and most of all an empathic, warm hearted person and survivor, passed away. As a child in Sieget, Romania, he took violin lessons and he used to go to the teacher with his violin case and a bottle of shutka, local vodkda. Fortunately for the little Elie, his lessons lasted only if there was vodka left, not too long. Not so many years later, Visel Meulik [phonetic], a concert violinist, they were on the Desmauch [phonetic], rented for the freezing night in a small barn with many inmates. Then miracle happened, Meulik [phonetic] took out his violin and played the violin Beethoven Concerto. This was Meulik's finale, as the next morning he was found dead. Visel told his sad story in his famous book the night that he got the Nobel Prize. I would like to conclude with a Hebrew prayer [Speaking Hebrew]. [ Applause ] Now is the turn of my son, and he will take the podium. >> Avshalom Weinstein: Good afternoon and thank you for coming today. I'm Avshalom Weinstein, Amnon's son, third generation violin maker in Israel, and I'll present you some of the instruments that you see here today, and I'll tell you some of the stories of them. We will start with this instrument. As I'm sure many of you know, some of the most famous violinist in the world during the 20th century were Jewish, Isaac Stern, and many, many, many others. But we only now about three or maybe four Jewish violin makers during this time. This violin for example was made by Jacob Zimmerman, the mentor of my grandfather. We know from stories when we spoke to Edel Handel [phonetic], and Michele Schwangve [phonetic], we used to be the concert Maestros of the Berlin philharmonic for many, many, many years, on the carry on and recorded some the best master pieces, which until today concern to be some of the best recording ever. They were both his clients. Michel Schwangve who has come from a very poor family, he told my father that when he was young he would get his instruments and repairs by Zimmerman for free. Edel Handel remembered him as a very old man during the 30s, drinking milk all the time probably due to an illness or something. We have no idea what happened to him during the Holocaust, we assumed he passed away; he was already probably over his 70s when the war started, but we have a few instruments of his which survived. One of them we have here with us, this is a very unique instrument. I don't know if most of you could see it but you can see it afterwards, it has a Five Star of David carved and layered on the back, and the label inside is written in Yiddish, and it reads, "I made this violin for my loyal friend Mr. Schuman Kongle [phonetic], Varsow 1924, Jacob Zimmerman." When my father asked Michel Schwangve [phonetic] if he heard the name Schuman Kongle he said yes, he said, "We were so poor, we didn't feel comfortable bringing the violin teacher home", and his violin lessons used to be in Schuman Kongle's [phonetic] house. Schuman Kongle was a wealth industrialist in Varsow and when the war started he took his violin and he ran away. He managed to arrive to Tashkent, Uzbekistan, where he fell ill and passed away, most probably from typhus. He gave his violin to his closest friend, and after the war in around 1946, '47, this run came to the Congo trammeling Jerusalem, he knocked on the door and asked, "Did you know Mr. Schuman Kongle?" He said, "Yes we do, we haven't heard from him for many years, he's our uncle", and he gave him the violin. We also have a photo of Schuman playing on this violin in his house in Warsaw, and these are basically the only things which are left for Mr. Kongle. We got this violin -- >> The photo or Mr. Kongle is at his -- >> You can see it later, there is a booklet here, you'll be able to see the photo, we have it large and we got it from the family. And as I mentioned Jacob Zimerman [phonetic]was not the only one, we know of another violin makers -- Jewish violin makers, his name was Jacob Hackert, we have one of his violins here, unfortunately we couldn't bring all the instruments today. Jacob Hackert [phonetic]was born in the Netherlands, he went to Milkou, France to the Violin Making School there. Later on, he led some of his apprenticeship around Europe and Germany, coming back to Amsterdam where he opened his workshop. He had later on a very successful string factory, he was making strings and he made the booklet of all the reviews he got from the leading musicians of the time. Later on his factory was converted to make medical supplies, it was the same tools used to make violin strings, instrument strings and medical supply, and when the war started his family managed to run away, but Jacob Hackert [phonetic]was caught by the Nazis, later on deported to Auschwitz and he was killed on the 22nd of May, 1944. We have some of his instruments who survived, we have the first violin he ever made, in Milkou, still in 1906, there is a cello of his, we do know of some other instruments. We have some photo of his in his workshop and there is a very, very beautiful miniature violin about this big, which he made. The made the violin, the bow which you can actually use, and the case, and this is a very, very unique and very beautiful instrument and I can show you the level of scale of Mr. Hackert. Now, we have another violin maker, his name is Einstein, he worked in Germany, in Istanbul as well and later on moved to New York, but these are the only three makers that we know, and unlike many of the Jewish violinist, they are considered to be very small and not many people know about them. >> Hannah Tarley: So, I just wanted to say first of all how -- is it this one? Or is it -- No, this one, how happy I am to be here and it's just, it's amazing being a part of this project, it's been an incredible experience. And every time I hear these stories, and then when I have to go up and play, I kind of have to compose myself because, it takes a second to sort of, take all of this in and to hear these stories, and I got goosebumps and as I go, "OK, I actually have to play this now". When we talk about playing violins and very often, when you think about violin or music in general, it's about presenting your voice, it's about singing and it's about whatever unique -- whatever is unique about you and about your instrument. That is what you're putting together, and with these violins I feel like that is especially true, when I play them, when they're talked about, it's really very special to talk about the voices that are being presented here. And the fourth pieces, the fourth extra step that I'm going to be playing for you today, I feel really show that in sort of, the best way. So, the first piece that I'm going to play is by Rachmainov [phonetic] and it's the Vocalise. [ Music ] [ Applause ] >> From what we know, most of the German violin makers and bow makers, were not in the Nazi party. Many of them, of course had Jewish lines, some of them even helped Jewish people either by buying the instruments from them, -- this way providing them some money so they can escape, or even hiding them at home; but, as you can see here on this violin, somewhere Nazi sympathizer. This violin, which was actually bought a few years ago by a violin maker around here, from Washington DC, he bought it and his initial thought was to take the violin, do some reparation, probably sell it and when he opened the violin, he saw this, "Hail Hitler, 1936" with this very strong and aggressive swastika. His first feeling was to take the violin and burn it, and then he did what most of us would do today, opened up his computer, went to Google, and somehow, he managed to find us, he gave a call to my father and ask him if he would like to have this violin in our collection. He said immediately yes, and he was so kind and sent it over to us, and this is one of the various small amounts of instruments which will never be repaired and will stay as it is, to show what people could have done. When we take a closer look on the violin, there was no reason to repair it. When the guy opened it, in 1936 he didn't do any reparation, there are no cracks; there are no pieces which were replaced. The only reason he opened this violin was to write this horrible thing, and then later he closed it, tried to give it back to the owner or sold it, we have no idea. We couldn't locate the name of the guy, his initials are A.D, but we couldn't find his name in any of the dictionaries and any of our books, we don't know what his name is, we know it's coming from Germany, but that's it. Many of the German makers who were some of the leading makers of the time, after the war people didn't want to play on their instruments. Many of the Jewish players either sold or destroyed their instruments, and only today, after so many years they start getting again the recognition that they used to have, those German makers, have been really some of the leading makers of the time and people today are still looking for these instruments and when Daniel Schmidt, when he came into our workshop in Israel and he saw the collection and he saw these beautiful German-made instruments, he was quite shocked because this instruments, you could not find in Germany in this time. It was very rare to see them and many of them they were in a way lost in Germany, and only today people start understanding the quality and how good makers most of these people were. >> This next violin has a very unique story. This violin was played in the Men Orchestra in Auschwitz. Auschwitz as you know was one of the biggest camps, it had about eight orchestras, there were men orchestra, there was the women orchestra, which was led by Alma Hauset. Alma managed to save all the players of the orchestra, they all survived, but unfortunately a few months before the war ended, she passed away, either from poisoning or from typhus, nobody knows. There are so many stories about her orchestra but one of the most interesting one is, there was an inspection of mangle in the hospital, and as you know most of the people who went to the hospital was kind of a one way trip, and many of them were sent to death, and he was going around and he saw this very sick lady and he asked, "Why is she still here, why is she still alive?", and the people said, "Well, she's part of the Women Orchestra", he said just "OK", and he went to the next patient. She was -- she had this kind of halo, of someone who was respected, and from what we know today she was the only person that the Germans called in her name, they would call her -- they would address to her as "Frau Hauset [phonetic], Mrs. Hauset", the only person we know was actually called by name. Auschwitz had the men orchestra who played very close to the "Arbeit Macht [phonetic] Frei" sign, they would play every day in the morning when the Englands would go out to work, and in the evening when they would come back. They would pile the dead just in front of the orchestra. Many people who played in this camp couldn't play afterwards; they couldn't have the power to play an instrument after seeing everything they used to see while playing. There were people and there are stories about people playing on the way to the gas chambers, they would see their families sent to the gas chambers, they would lay down their instruments and join their families. The Nazis used music also as a deception tour. When the trains would arrive to the kangs [phonetic] there would be a small orchestra playing, and we heard some testimonies of survivors saying that when they were going out from the train, sometimes after days and days stuffed in a cattle wagon with no food and no water, and no sanitary, and no break and with many deads inside, they would go out and they would hear music. And they would actually think to themselves, "Well, if there is music here, how bad can it be?" And of course, they learned very, very fast how bad it could be. And this violin, which we got two years ago, we were told that the guy who brought it - the father of the person who brought it to us, he was a soldier in the Jewish brigade, and after the war he was going around and trying to help survivors to get papers and start their lives again. He met a survivor and the guy told him he said, "Listen, I have nothing on, my family's killed, I have nothing left, only this violin. Would you please buy it from me?" He bought it for $50, which was more than ten times the price of an instrument of this kind, and he hoped that his son, who had just born, will hopefully one day play the violin. Unfortunately, he never did and three years ago when he heard about our project, he brought it to us and since then this violin was played in all of our concerts, sometimes by the soloist, sometimes by the concert maestro. The concert maestro of Cleveland Symphony played it and it was played in the concert of Berlin by the soloist guy Bernstein, and lately by the soloist Alexei Kenyu [phonetic], you know her concert in Jacksonville, Florida, and today you'll hear it now. >> So, the next piece that I'm going to play is a movement, from a partite by Bach. And when you're learning pieces, you know, when you're learning new material it's mostly always about what did the composer want? What was the composer thinking about? What was going on in his life? And that's -- as students and as teachers, that's always something that we're thinking about the most, what came from the original, where is this music coming from? But I feel like today, with this room and these violins we have to change that a little bit, and today it's not about the composers, it's about the instruments, and it's about how the instrument wants to play a certain piece, and I of course will help the instrument, show it's voice. But in a way, I think that makes it very special, because you communicate the instrument on a whole different level, so, this would be a movement from Bach. [ Music ] [ Applause ] >> This next violin has a very interesting story. Fibal Veilenger [phonetic], who was a Romanian Jew, and when the war started he was deported with tens of thousands other Jewish people to Ameria cult [phonetic], on Istria in Romania. They were sent there by the government, knowing that they won't have enough means to survive, as food and supplies. And many tenths of thousands of them passed away. When Fiber arrived with his family and his one-and-a-half-year-old daughter, Helen, she was so weak that she couldn't even cry anymore. He arrived to the place and he me a judge who knew him from before. The judge knew that he was a violinist and he told him, "Listen, I have this violin, this very precious old Italian instrument, made by Amati. Would you please take it, maybe if you have some work, of you can play a little bit you'll earn something, maybe you can share it with me and my sister". Fibal [phonetic] of course was very grateful, he took the violin and after his first work, where he would get the leftovers of the party, he went back to the judge's house, but he said that it was too late. A few days before that, the judge and his sister who couldn't bare it anymore, hang themselves and died. Fibal kept the violin for a long time, playing around for the villagers in small events, and his payout would be some leftover food, some firewood and this way he managed to keep his family of 16 people, alive. A while later the police heard that he had this precious violin, and they came over and gave him a choice, "Either you give us the violin or we take away your family." He didn't hesitate and gave them the Amati violin, and days later when one of the villagers found area around they came to him and said, "Would you please come and play in my daughter's wedding?", he said, "I would love to do that but I have no instrument". The guy said, "Well, that's not a big problem, come with me, we will find you one". They went to the villages around and they found his violin. Fibal took it, he insisted on paying later on the guy back, he played of course in his daughter's wedding and in many, many other places, and this way he managed to gather enough food and supply, and him and his 16 family members survived the war. When they came back to Israel - after they arrived to Israel after the war, fiber would take his violin every day out, play on it until his little daughter Helen would survive all the stories and all the things that he was going through with this instrument, and before that. Years later, when Fibal was 90 years old, his daughter asked him what he would like to have for his birthday, he said, "I would like to play my friend again". He wouldn't call the violin "my violin", he would call it "my friend". Helen came to my father and we saw the instrument, it was in a very poor condition, a very simple instrument. We offered her maybe to take another violin for her father to play on, and when he heard the offer he said, "You don't understand, this is not just a violin, he's my friend. I want to play on this violin". She came back to us, she told us the story, when he purred the violin and he got it back when he was 90 years old, smiling like a little child. He would take it out every day, play on it, talk to it, he couldn't really play much, he was very old, very sick, but he would sit down and talk to the violin and tell it stories. And a few years ago, after unfortunately passed away, we got the violin from Helen and we have it in out collection since then. >> So, this next piece will be by one of my favorite composers, Vojak, and this is actually one of his -- he has three pieces for violin, it's like three -- it's a ballad, a nocturnal -- this part I'm going to play part of the ballad. And of course, this is, again, this is singing with the instrument, this is bringing out the voice of the instrument and really connecting my voice with the instrument's voice. And I really love the story about this man and the violin that was his friend, I think it's such a touching story and it kind of gets me every time I hear it. So, this is Vojak and hopefully the violin and I, we're going to be friends right now. [ Tuning the violin ] [ Music ] [ Applause ] >> For the last story of today, we have this violin. As you can see there's a very big Star of David, and this violin was done in Schrenbach [phonetic] a place which was - I think it was a part of the Czech Republic during some time before the war, yes. And in this area they made many instruments, some of them were decorated, some with Star of David, some with crosses, some with other ornaments, they used to sell them around Europe. Many were played by gypsies -- not the ones with the star of David but others, and they would play them, and then someone would come and they would say, "Oh it's such a beautiful violin, he would tell them like a story, and he would ask, "Can I buy the violin?" and he's like "No, it's my great-grandfather is and blablabla blablabla", take a really high price, sell the violin two minutes later till his son would came, "OK bring me the next one", and they would go on like that. Now, this violin it's dedicated to the Bielski [phonetic] family. I'm coming from both sides of the holocaust, my father's side, my grandmother and my grandfather both with 11 brothers and sisters, and then -- and only one uncle survived the war. The rest of my family from my father's side, were all killed. My grandmother and my grandfather, from my mother's side, from the complete opposite story. My grandfather Arsol Bielsky, who was one of the Bielsky brothers, I don't know if -- you might have seen the movie "Defiance", it brings kind of a taste of the story, unfortunately not exactly how it was, and him and his two brothers saved over 1200 people. They saved them in the forest in Byelorussia, living in very harsh conditions, surrounded by Germans and many other people who were all the time trying to have them arrested and killed. They would find the Germans but they would also save many, many people. My grandfather after the war - after they were liberated, he joined Russian army and later was killed in Germany, but his brothers emigrated to Israel and later on moved to the States, and one of their recent comers to Washington DC, that I'm sure some of you all know, Gerard Bushnell, both his grandmother and grandfather were saved by the Bielsky partisans. When I grew up and I would go to my grandmother in Haipha [phonetic], the only - the bedtime stories would be the stories of the partisans. I heard them since I was a little child and, unlike my mother's side of the family, my father's side -- my grandmother and my grandfather never spoke a single word about their family, about what was going on. They arrived [inaudible], in 1938, before the war and none of the uncles or our aunts, none of them survived except for one. So, this is the last violin for today, I hope you enjoyed it, we'll have time for questions if anyone has and we hope now that we are trying to have this big project to go to even bigger exhibitions, but mainly also in educational program. Travelling in the US and the world and in January, February. We've been to Jacksonville and to Sarasota; we had more than 12,000 o 13,000 students, coming to presentations very similar to what we have today. They would hear the stories, listen to the music because in a way it's a very unique project, you can hear a story, you can hear the violins, they would come afterwards and they would see the violin up in person, ask questions and, it's something we cannot really understand the holocaust. Nobody has ever seen 6 million people together. But when you're talking about individual stories, individual people, coming from one place, going to another place, managing to survive somehow, to live yet another day, it gives you in a way a different perspective of a time that maybe one day we'll be able to understand and hopefully we would never have to experience again. >> So, the last piece that I will be playing today will be two movements, two dances basically, from Vartax [phonetic] Romanian dancers or folk dancers. And I just thought that in this violin -- this is a custom violin, yes this is the custom violin I just thought to play it with folk dances would be an appropriate kind of duet. [ Music ] [ Applause ] >> Now we have time for a few questions. >> Yes. >> And repeat the question. >> I want to thank you for -- this has totally worked for me, what you're doing and I wanted to -- [ Applause ] >> Thank you very much >> I have a comment and a question, my first comment was I have a friend, who's a very accomplished violin teacher and he has a great story that I wanted to share. His teacher [inaudible] and he was hiding in an attic, and the Russians found him, they broke his violin and then they would kill him. And then he started played Tchaikovsky. And -- I'm sorry I'm crying, but the violin saved his life. I wanted to tell you that story. My question is, is there any hope for the stolen goods, you know, tracing back stolen goods that, whoever get that Amanti [phonetic] that you talked about? >> Well, the question was about trying to recover instruments, so, the main problem is that when the Nazis confiscated musical instruments and violins in particular, the data would go, "violin, made out of wood, color, whatever" and that's it. Unlike a painting that you say, the woman standing with the flower vase, with the window behind it, it's almost impossible to trace because there were so many instruments which were made, very, very similar. Most of them like we said before, they are not from the important makers, and unfortunately, I don't think we can locate then. There was a woman who was trying to locate a few instruments. I don't know, as far as I know, she couldn't manage to find them. And it's very, very hard to try to trace them because there is not enough data basically. >> How would you compare the wood, the selection of wood, between these various instruments -- >> Well, the wood, which we use for violins, the top is always made out of spruce, the ribs, back and scrawl, usually the instruments you see here and most of the instruments are made out of maple -- flamed maple. Sometimes out of birch wood and some very few out of different other woods, which are grown up in Italy, but most of the instruments -- I would say even more than 90 percent, the ribs, back and scrawl are made of maple. >> First of all, thank you for taking the trouble to come, I'd like to talk tackalist because the violins would teach, when Isaac Vermont -- when Isaac Roban was alive -- >> Isaac Stern [ Crosstalk ] >> There are teachers -- the great violinists who teach they also, as you know from Dick Pavlavoni and other people, are very generous. You need to ask them to adopt this project -- >> Well, let me -- let me tell you one thing, Isaac Pearlman was born in a street behind our workshop. His first violin that he ever got was from my grandfather, they made now a documentary about him and he's playing the Auschwitz violin, he played the "Schindler's List" on that for the movie. He does know the project; hopefully he will take part of it. What do you say? >> They have called all of the great collectors of this country. >> Yes, I know. >> And worked with them on projects. But this one is very special, because I don't know a school in the country that would not want to participate. And as the founding Vice Chairman at the holocaust division we know what this and what it's about. And as you know from what you have said already, the level of pedagogy of kids absorbing when they see the real thing, is a million percent. >> Yes, because they passed it up and they tweet it and get it communicated very, very well and fast. >> My major point is that these violins are what I would call a precious legacy of those who owned it and didn't survive. Will live on and teaching that no one can do otherwise. >> This is our main hope -- >> Your labor is what you have done already, and it seems to me that those who have the possibilities to really help you will do it and fast. >> Well, I hope so. [ Applause ] >> Yes? >> I want to thank you for this presentation. It has meant so much to me because, this summer I will be going to visit Auschwitz for the first time in my life, as well as other concentration camps on a special tour I'll be taking. I will be very happy to take your recommendation with me and I will share it with the people that I'll be touring with because -- I don't know any of them yet but I'm sure they will be very interested to -- >> We'll talk about it, afterwards I'll give you a card gladly, thank you. >> Any more questions? Yes. >> I know it's hard to generalize but the majority of the instruments, what type of shape were they in before restoration and was most of varnish remain intact? >> Well, the question was, what was the condition of the instruments when we got it. Well, some instruments they were in very poor condition, you could see that some of them were played outside, where the varnish of the top was gone. Basically, the only thing which would stay would be the color. Some of them were broken to pieces, we have one which is so badly done and so poorly paired that we left it as it is so people can see that they had to so everything they could just in order to be able to play another day and hopefully survive another day, even if it meant to repair the instruments in a way that they would never think of doing before, but they actually had no other choice. >> Any other question? Yes. >> You mentioned your grandfather was a Bielsky [phonetic], could you tell me the names of the other two brothers involved as the partisans and also, are any Bielsky brothers still alive today? >> Unfortunately, Tobia Bielsky was chosen as the leader, he was the elder. And my grandfather was the head of the fighting unit, Asoil Bielsky, there was another brother Zeus who was, he was the head of the intelligence, Zeuszia [phonetic]. They had another little brother who was 13 years old, Pavel Bielsky; he's the only one who's still alive. >> You mentioned that performing in Nashville and I'm wondering what the next events your organization has in United States. >> We are going to have a very big project in Nashville, next year starting on the 22nd of march until the 20th of May, if I'm not mistaken. It's going to include a few concerts. During this time, we're going to have two concerts in Birmingham, Alabama, on the 12th and on the 14th of April. In the States, right now we have many people who are asking for projects, we have nothing finalized yet. We are hoping to start our big project sometime around the fall of 2018 if we can manage to gather all the money and all the funds, and then slowly, slowly start touring on around. We have many offers to do in San Francisco, from Los Angeles, from Chicago, from Washington area, from New York, Phoenix and probably another ten places but I'm sorry I don't remember them all right now. >> Thank you. >> I want to add one Bielsky, who were with the partisans and had doctors' assistance -- >> One of my cousins, Taibe [phonetic], one of the grandkids from -- one of the daughters of the Bielsky brothers is here with us today. Two, two of them. Well, I have a big family. [ Applause ] >> And my mother, yes, Assaila [phonetic]. [ Applause ] >> Any more questions. >> I'd like to thank the musician, I don't remember her name. >> Hannah Tarley [phonetic]. >> If you could tell a little bit about her, what would you do now, were you -- >> And how you booked up? [ Applause ] >> It is a pleasure. It's a real pleasure to come here today, I always; I really love participating in this project, like I said before. We actually met quite recently, I was part of the series opera "Violins of hope", because I'm actually part of the Poland music program, and you mentioned as a problem for -- and that's actually how we got connected, they called me and asked me if I wanted to [inaudible] and they were like "there's this project with these violins from the holocaust, would you be in-" and I was like, "Where do I go, when is happening?" I'm from California originally, I'm first generation American born, my family is also from Russia, Belorussia, Poland from this area and also the same sort of stories of mom's side of the family were able to get out like minutes before the Germans came, dad's side of the family where like -- it's sort of a similar -- everybody I guess has this mix in the families. At the moment, I live in New York and I'm doing a master's degree at Julliard school, so that why I came from New York this morning. [ Applause ] >> I've got one question for Amnon. How did you convince -- let me say it into the microphone. How did you convince Avshalom to also become a violin maker? I would love my son to have gone to my husband's business and it didn't work, how did you do it? >> First of all you should ask how I am a violin maker. So, that's natural. I followed my father and he's following his father, that's it, very simple. I wanted to add to the concert, one month from now we are doing a project in Bucharest, Romania, and February 18th we're going to do something very special in Dachau, in the concentration camp. So, that's also on the program that we have now. >> OK, no questions? [ Applause ] >> Than you very much, we've had an amazing program thank you Amnon, Avshalom and Hannah for giving us your time, your challenge and your love. Thank you. >> This has been a presentation of the library of congress. Visit us at loc.com.