>> Sasha Dowdy: Welcome everyone to the Library of Congress Young Reader Center. My name is Sasha. I'm the Program Specialist here and I work here with my colleague Monica, to bring programs to kids and help you connect with the kinds of materials that we have here in the Library of Congress. And things that are interesting and relevant to you. And today is really special because it's the day after Walt Whitman's 200th birthday. And we are really excited to celebrate this here with our special guests and with you guys here. We have really wonderful collections about America's - one of the most famous [Inaudible] in America, Walt Whitman. And we're going to learn a little bit more about him. And if you want to see what kind of collection items we have from Walt Whitman you can visit the online exhibit and research guide. And the link to that is guides LSU.gov/Walt Whitman. And there's also information online about that. And you can also come visit us on Monday and see some really rare artifacts, like letters and handwritten drafts and things like that. So Whitman who was a really famous poet and he was really famous for writing, but also learning all the time and we might know that he wasn't always writing. He might have said some things that we don't agree with now, but we just wanted to kind of start off by celebrating the fact that he was always learning and he was always trying to figure out the world around him. He was trying to understand how to be a better human and I think that we can all connect with that and we can take that message with us even beyond this birthday celebration. So today we have two really special guests to help us celebrate this day. We have author Bob Burleigh and we have illustrator Sterling Hundley, and they're here to talk about their book "Oh Captain, My Captain, Walk Whitman, Abraham Lincoln and the Civil War." And this was published this year by Abrams. And there's a copy right there. And we have asked our author and illustrator to sign the book, so you can pick them up at the gift shop after the program. So quick intro, Bob Burleigh was born in Chicago and has been writing for 35 years. And he created one of 40 children's books. He writes many kinds of stories like survival and biographies and adventures, sports, science, poetry. I don't know what you're not interested in. And the common thread of the stories is that they're really interesting and they're full of hard facts, but also the intensity of the moment; so you can really feel what it was like to be in that moment in history. So we are going to feel right in the thick of the story of Civil War today. And Sterling is from Roanoke, Virginia. He is on this coast of painter, illustrator, designer. He's worked for Marvel and [Inaudible] and Washington Post and by worked for I mean created some wonderful artwork with them. He's received many awards and is considered one of the best illustrators in the field. Very cool. And he has done some really cool things like illustrate one of the classics, our favorite Turner Island so you can see his work all around. Other than being an illustrator and painter, he's also a professor at Virginia Commonwealth University and he's an innovator and he brings together communities of people who like to create together. So that is all I want to say to prepare you guys to be excited about this program and we are going to ask you guys to take it away. Thank you very much. [ Applause ] >> Robert Burleigh: I'm Bob Burleigh. And I'm very, very happy to be here on this special day. I've love Whitman for as long as I can remember writing. And that can't be that long, but [Inaudible] and I'm just very happy to be able to write a book about him and this [Inaudible] but I also in passing just like to pass on some thanks to the book publisher, Abrams, my editor Howard Reeves, the Library of Congress of course for having us and Sterling Hundley for being the excellent illustrator. We just met this morning. I already love the guy and I love - I already loved his work. So I'm very happy to be here and going to the book that we published right now is not a full scale biography of Walt; it is a birth to death. And he had a very special what should I say, relationship to the country as you well know and to Abraham Lincoln as he got to know him. He didn't know him personally, they had never met. But he loved him just the same. And I was so happy somebody they proposed this book to Abrams and it started out [Inaudible] book on Whitman, but then the editor said, "Let's add Abraham Lincoln." And I'm saying what is that another 500 pages of reading? What do we do here? But anyway I was very happy to do that. This is - so this is a - I'm going to read from the book, which we call "Oh Captain, My Captain." And it's called that because it's really a - trying to sort of relate Whitman to Lincoln, by the way they've never met each other. Walt was a [Inaudible], okay and I will just try to read [Inaudible]. And each one of my little page [Inaudible] starts out with a [Inaudible] from Whitman. Okay, so that's I am the man, I suffered. I was there. The bearded man in the entryway softly closes the door behind him. He paused this, standing perfectly still for a moment he lets his eyes grow accustomed to the flickering light. Lamps hanging from the walls cast a halo glow over a long room, lined with cots. Many containing a wounded soldier. The man hears the sound of breathing the rustle of a body somewhere [Inaudible]. The [Inaudible] the gloom, the stench of sickness is [Inaudible] hospital. Suddenly the stillness is pierced by a single sharp [Inaudible]. Oh, oh, oh - is it coming from near, is it coming from over there? The man in the doorway steps lightly across the creaking floorboards, the wounded soldier so young, boy merely stares straight up the fixed wild [Inaudible]. A stain of wet blood seeps into a crumpled bandage around one shoulder. The man tries with careful fingers to straighten the bandage. The boy's pain throws [Inaudible]. He stares into the bearded face above him. Who are you he seems to ask? For a moment the man says nothing. He holds the soldier's hand firmly in his own warm hand, then he speaks. Hello, I am Walt. I am Walt Whitman. Walt Whitman - is this Walt Whitman a poet? What is a poet doing here in the foul smelling gloom of the Civil War hospital? Among the wonder, the dying and the dead. One answer to that question comes from Walt Whitman himself. I'm not going to read the whole book; I'm going to read several pages. Okay? And again, the quote at the top says "I am large, I maintain multitudes." Taken from poems, letters [Inaudible]. He called himself Walt Whitman, an American. One of the roughs, a cosmos. Sometimes he was a poet, other times he was a nurse, a comrade or a journalist. And finally he was the mourner and a chief for the nation's greatest president. Could any person be all these things and more? Yes. For Walt had a generous soul and a large ambition. Large enough to become America's first great poet. I [Inaudible] early [Inaudible]. I celebrate myself and see myself, and what I [Inaudible] shall assume for every [Inaudible] belonging to me, belongs to you. Large enough to talk about Walt, large enough to praise both the tiny and the immense. I believe a leaf of grass is no less than the [Inaudible] to the stars. But [Inaudible] enough to include all people in this vision. I am [Inaudible] the young. I am the [Inaudible] the same as the man. Large enough to identify the most mistreated person. I am the hounded slave. I [Inaudible] the fighting dogs. As Walt himself said, he contained multitudes and [Inaudible]. Okay, I'm not going to read this entirely but Walt kind of predicted, very interesting to me. In the last decade before the Civil War when there's a lot of tension between the northern and southern states and so forth and so on, and besides that the government [Inaudible] looked to Walt and many other people as being sort of weak and crumbling. In the late 1850's America's special [Inaudible] to achieve [Inaudible] for all. This very democracy seemed to Walt dangerously at risk. For several years he felt a dark cloud and gather [Inaudible]. Slavery, corruption, bribery, [Inaudible], democracy, scorn. Could anyone help me verse this impending scorn? Walt believed so. Several years before the election of 1860 [Inaudible] listen to this, he imagined that such a person so needed would be [Inaudible]. Walt wrote that his new hope for a leader would become "healthy body, beard faced [Inaudible]." He would arise out of the real west and the long [Inaudible]. Walt imagined that this new president would be both shrewd and heroic. Never heard [Inaudible]. Now [Inaudible] industrialists face [Inaudible] plantation slave owners. The ship was floundering near the captain and the captain did soon appear, his name Abraham Lincoln. So the book said something contrast, not contrast but as we speak the fact that Whitman was already visiting the hospitals and soon would - he never met Lincoln, but he did know [Inaudible]. From his first sighting of Abraham Lincoln, the man in the White House was never far from Whitman's thoughts. Lincoln's particularly my man. By the same token, I am Lincoln's man he says. We are afloat in the same stream. We are rooted in the same ground. What do the poet to the president? Walt loved the fact that Lincoln like Walt himself came from the common people. Those lacking formal education and social status and wealth. It confirmed Walt's belief - Walt's belief the average person's potential for greatness. But there was more. Both men had an almost mystical faith in the union and democracy. Walt's poetry rose in part from his vision of America and Lincoln's political thought rested on the United States Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. And I'm jumping here, so there's a lot of connections and I think exist [Inaudible]. Okay. Okay. America brought to hospital in her fair youth, that's a quote from Walt again. [Inaudible] the war now has started and [Inaudible] 700,000 people and soldiers died from the Civil War. And the hospital so called, will be mentioned [Inaudible]. Nothing like you might get today if you have a bit of sore throat and you're down to some - we're talking about this size with [Inaudible] all over. [Inaudible] dirtier, messier and so on. And they were all over - scattered all over the city of Washington particularly. I'm not sure if the south had the same thing. I don't know what city it would bet set in. But anyway this is America brought to a hospital in a [Inaudible] when Whitman [Inaudible] because he started to visit the hospitals. Walt began to learn more about the hospitals scattered throughout Washington, converted warehouses and government buildings newly constructed [Inaudible] houses wherever beds could be placed. To him the hospitals almost came to stand for the war itself. The expression of America and personality is not to be looked for in the great campaign in the battle of lights he said. He looked for in hospitals among the wounded. That's a quote from Walt. So he began to visit hospitals. He had a little job in the morning, Walt Whitman, a little government job. In the afternoon he was free. When he left his government job in the morning he'd stop by some hospitals and go at night and visit hospitals okay, in DC. What I'd give of myself. In this long poem song of myself Walt had proclaimed I am the man, I suffered, I was there. Now his words would be put to the test. The sick, the wounded, the disfigured, the despairing and the dying called out to him. And he answered. A large [Inaudible] strangers would sometimes say he resembled a retired sea captain. Walt [Inaudible] friendly magnetic personality but sometimes do as much as [Inaudible] to heal a wounded man. The smallest things mattered, how he spoke, his handshake, his smile. How he was dressed. Often he wore a necktie; sometimes even put a flower in his button hole. You can imagine he wrote home to his mother, I've got quite a swell. Walt was in pain. He took on any role he thought would help. Friend, nurse, assistant nurse, secretary, delivery man, brother, father or even mother. His days now - skip that paragraph. Often Walt would make afternoon hospital stops. Then he'd turn to his small bare room for dinner. He would eat a meager meal. His dinner plate was simply a piece of brown paper that he crumpled and tossed in the fire after the meal was over. Before heading out again in a hospitals, he would check one of his hand made notebooks, one of the notebooks he'd get. Not much of a notebook, just folded paper pinned together sometimes stained with blood, in which he had listed the wounded soldier's requests. He then would rifle through his supplies, stuffing gifts into a large knapsack. Such simple needs. Bed 23, that's the way he kind of remembered what where. A piece of hounds tooth candy. Bed 30, paper and pencil. Bed 71 an orange. Bed 77, a handful of change. Bed 98, a Bible. Taking his small store of money, he had very little and spent nearly all of it on presents for the soldiers. He might stop at a market for food, a stationary shop for envelops or a bakery for biscuits, cookies and other sweets. Then he would walk to the hospitals. I sort of left Lincoln out of here because we talk about him earlier in the book. Walt would see him occasionally and he was inspired by the fact that he felt Lincoln was suffering and fighting this war, with a lot of opposition coming from both north and south. And so he knew that Lincoln would pass on Friday nights and Lincoln would go out to a little place to stop and sleep at the overnight [Inaudible] away from the White House. And Walt would sort of time his [Inaudible]. Abe would be coming in a carriage of course. And Walt [Inaudible] hospital in the afternoon and he often would walk to a corner where he knew the President's carriage would pass by. Did Lincoln ever take note of this stranger who stood there watching? Once, standing and waiting Walt heard the sounds of churning wheels and horse's hooves. The carriage carrying Abraham Lincoln slowly came into view, followed by a company of Calvary sabers drawn and held high. Walt, his knapsack slung over his shoulder leaned forward. The carriage pattered past. The president looked down at Walt, who is this? Walt Whitman gazed back at the president, their eyes met. Abraham Lincoln seemed to nod. Walt nodded in return. Moving on the carriage rounded a corner as Walt watched it disappear. Simply to see this president, to catch a glimpse of his face increasingly etched the suffering so awful ugly, "So awful ugly becomes beautiful." Yet with a [Inaudible] smile on occasion was uplifting, just to watch as the stiff figure sitting motionless and the shadow - of the shadow the carriage passed by gave Walt new energy. He felt Lincoln was giving his all and beyond. How could Walt do less? Walt [Inaudible] still Walt in the hospital and [Inaudible] going to read let's see a couple paragraphs from this page. My wife is my critic, she's over there like you're going to fast, you're going to slow, you're saying too much, you're saying too little. Anyway. All right, so Walt tried to speak to each soldier in the war as he visited. Attempting to give at least a word or a trifle to everyone. He read to the men, stories, poems and newspaper articles. He played games of cards with them or 20 questions. He helped them write letters home. Once he even bought - brought ice cream, a treat many of the wounded soldiers had never tasted. When called upon he cleansed wounds and witnessed many amputations, nearly three out of four operations during the Civil War were amputations. And I should add once you were amputated you were pretty much on the death list. Didn't have much cleanliness there. You chop an arm off, it could be curtains, okay? It always - it felt days - Walt kept his [Inaudible] jotting down a few lines whenever he had a free moment. And one [Inaudible] he looked and wrote, the hurt and wounded I pacify them soothing hand. I sit by the restless all the dark night. Even President Lincoln also came to the hospital, but nowhere near as often as Walt. Okay, I'm going to - this is a very touchy paragraph or two to me. Do dear comrade, your mission is fulfilled. That's a quote from Walt. Soldiers came and soldiers went, and many never left alive at all. The worst moment came too often, the death watch. Walt Whitman the poet had earlier written the smallest sprout shows there's really no death. Now Walt the nurse would sit quietly with many young soldiers as they died. Sometimes he brushed a boy's forehead with a cool cloth or held a dying soldiers hand. When the end came there was [Inaudible] propping pillows he removed the [Inaudible] the arms were softly placed by the side and the broad white sheets thrown over everything. But that wasn't the end [Inaudible]. And [Inaudible] name and address and prepared to write a letter to the soldiers family. As he wrote to one [Inaudible] parent, your son was one of the thousands of our unknown American young men in the ranks, about whom there is no record or [Inaudible], but I find in them the real precious and [Inaudible] of this land. I love that. He identified [Inaudible], I'm only a friend visiting the wounded, sick soldiers. I'm jumping along here [Inaudible]. Walt actually began to get sick. He was both tired and probably hospitals were not - but he continued to go okay and continued to watch [Inaudible]. And the last time he saw Lincoln alive was when he attended Lincoln's second inauguration in 1864. It was '65 I guess, early '65. Almost the last time Walt Whitman would see Abraham Lincoln alive. Okay. Again this is Walt's [Inaudible]. It was a date people at the time would remember for the rest of their lives. They would remember where they were too when they got the news. April 14, 1865 President Lincoln shot. April 15, 1865 President Lincoln dead. Walt sat in the kitchen of his mother's home twirling [Inaudible] the furnished apartment in Brooklyn. He had come home for a short visit. Newspapers were scattered on the table in front of him. Neither Walt, nor his mother had eaten, nor would they eat for the rest of the day. They each drank half a cup of coffee that was all. The president was dead. Then there's several pages which I'm not going to read that sort of summarize the death of Lincoln and the assassination in Ford's Theater in town here and the death which I will pass by in a moment but is covered here. And I'm jumping ahead here because I want to end this on Walt's poem to Lincoln, which you know is [Inaudible] some of the - Oh Captain, my Captain. The bearded man sits at his writing table. A notebook lies open before him. In the lamplight his memories flicker and fade. The four years of war, the battles, the hospitals, the deaths of so many soldiers [Inaudible] the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. And what of the pain and suffering of the mother's, father's, wives, sisters, brother's, friends, the suffering of an entire nation. His mind returns to the [Inaudible]. He seems to feel the rhythm of far off training wheels, the slow train carrying Abraham Lincoln's body across the north [Inaudible] to be buried. Walt knows that along that route many thousands come out to stand and watch the train go past. Some saluting, some weeping. Do they understand the president [Inaudible] during those horrible years? Somehow they do. That is why they come out to wait and watch, sun or rain, day or night. But perhaps they cannot put into words what they feel, can Walt Whitman? The president, the man who guided the nation to the agony of a long war is finally at rest. The captain has returned home from his thoughtful voyage. Yes, the captain. Slowly a few words tumble onto the paper. A poem begins to take shape. Works re scratched out. New words take their place, Walt Whitman the poet stands up, walks to the window stares into the darkness. He deals with poem growing in and out. He sits, takes up his pen and begins to write. Oh Captain, my captain our fearful trip is done. The ship has weathered every rack; the prize we sought is one. That's the end of the book. But there's a long [Inaudible] both Walt and Lincoln are sort of [Inaudible] biographs if that's the right word. There's two poems of Walt's [Inaudible] started to read, the Oh Captain my Captain, which many of you know that poem. It's probably the only poem that I know of that Walt ever wrote in rhyme, at least as an adult. And I've always - we read that poem when I was in eighth grade. And graduated - teachers [Inaudible] recite it in class, so we read that poem. And everybody thought it was kind of an awkward, Walt always had the snootiness as you know. [Inaudible] with unrhyming poems. But reading it again - even worth your while to read it again. As a rhymed poem I think it works pretty well. [Inaudible] when I read it [Inaudible] that poem [Inaudible], but actually it's not Walt [Inaudible]. Okay? And that's kind of it. I think I skipped over a number of things. I didn't do one that I wanted to do which showed the wonderful [Inaudible] and the beautiful - this man is somebody you should treasure as an artist. I'm [Inaudible] I am an artist and I happen to know good art. And Sterling is - the illustrations in this book are probably in my opinion, [Inaudible] are just some of the best I've ever seen both in their imaginative tone, the reality of the feeling and then [Inaudible] imaginations at times. So please this book and always - I've loved Whitman since I began to try to write poetry long ago, but anybody in America that tries to write poetry has to [Inaudible] doesn't mean you have to like him. People do not - there's always a discussion. He stands [Inaudible] force that you have to sort of -- [Inaudible] I'm talking too much. Can I stop? >> Sterling Hundley: I just - I want to say thank you and your words are more meaningful than I can express in front of a large group like this. But I have a question to ask you all, how many of you are here for the first time? You're all regulars. I'm here for the first time. My family is here for the first time. >> In this room or just - >> Sterling Hundley: Just the Library of Congress. It's a new experience for me. And just I like to research things before I jump in. So 16 million books are housed here. Over 120 million artifacts, manuscripts. These are collections of ideas and if you think about it, you know if you exclude other languages and you just simply look at English, we're talking about 26 letters, nine numbers that are put together in a sequence in a way that tried to express the range of human experience. That's really remarkable so these words are - these letters are put together in words. These words become sentences. These sentences become stories. And we express ideas, emotions that cut across time and space. That's a pretty remarkable thing that we as human beings can do. So I'm grateful first of all for the opportunity of these words in this book that Bob wrote. I was given the manuscript and that was an opportunity from the publisher Abrams. As Bob said we hadn't met until this morning. And we shared parfait. And so I'm grateful for this relationship that's building. I'm grateful for the Library of Congress, not just the opportunity but the space. Before this was a building, before this was anything else this was an idea. And it was an idea that was brought to life for - through words and pictures and drawings. And a lot of great minds coming together. And I just want to point that out that everything that is here started off simply as an idea. And as I was going through Bob's story about Lincoln and Whitman, you know you'll be hard pressed to find me without this in hand. This is my journal. I call it journal because it's somewhere between a sketch book and a life story that I'm writing. And with that you'll see that I've got a pencil. This isn't any different really, it's a nice pencil I admit. But it's not that different than what Walt Whitman used. Graphite and wood, but the act of drawing, the act of writing is a way for us to get things that are up here and things that are inside here out onto a page. That in itself is not necessarily an act of courage. I think it's an act of therapy where we process things. But think about what Walt Whitman was able to do with his words. To go to people who were in these harrowing situations where they're on their last breath. And he could share words and thoughts with them that would improve their spirits. He could capture their ideas, their names. And let them know that their legacy was going to live on even beyond that moment. That's really a remarkable thing that we get to do as authors and illustrators and writers. And I would encourage you if you don't have a journal. If you don't have the means of just documenting your thought and process in the world it will be some of the best therapy you would ever go through. And who knows it may turn into a story that lives on the shelves here in the Library of Congress one day. One thing that I wanted to bring that we could share in person that I don't think is often expressed through books is it's a labor, it's a process. It's not like Bob took these words and just threw them together and voila we have a story. He labored for months if not years probably trying to figure out ways to tell the stories of these two men and how they came together at this point in time. I was given a year to work on the - on the pictures for this and I dove into the research. I worked on sketches. Those went back to the art director, they came back. I worked through new ideas and new iterations. I explored thoughts about armed freedom. If you haven't looked out of the Capitol Building you'll see a giant - well it looks tiny. There's a statute on the top of the Capitol that's armed freedom. There's an entire history there that I explored, that's genuinely exciting to me. I want to make this a little bit more intimate if we can. I want you all to experience the hot lights. And the cameras. I'm going to show a few things on the screen up here. But I brought a bunch of the originals that I'd love for you to put your hands on and to look through and to hand around. I've got the sketch books that show the process and the thinking that go behind that - I've got a few other sketch books as well. If that doesn't break form too much for us here. Let me share a few things real quick before I open up the floor to you all. I'm also grateful that these three are here, my wife Shelly, my son Elias and my daughter Madison. Also my best friend Patrick, I haven't seen in years. So - of course - >> Robert Burleigh: I just wanted to say one thing. [ Inaudible ] >> Robert Burleigh: I wanted to make mention of the fact that my wife Jenni Rogers over here was very, very instrumental in getting this book together. Especially when they added Lincoln to the story of Whitman and I said, "Oh that's too much for me." And she said, "No it's not. You're going to call up and say "I'll take it," which I did do. But Jenni was a very significant help for me to get this. Thank you. [ Applause ] >> Sterling Hundly: And this is my illustration over here. Every time I get into a project I - I disappear and you know try to be the best husband, dad I can be, but it's not - I don't have much to offer during those times. So - so this is where it begins. And this is the things that I think I can share with you today. I think it's really difficult for a child or someone who is not creative. We hear a song or we read a book or we see pictures. And we see the absolute best efforts of that creative, that author to hide all of our mistakes, right? So we don't show the process. We show the best result of all of our choices and decisions. These are all the mistakes, right? So these are all in here. They're here for you to look through and this was the very open spread. I contain multitudes and you can see how that abstract concept would terrify children probably. There are a number of things in this book that can terrify children and I became a creative thing to figure out how to solve that and relay that out. So I was going to show a few things here but I sent the wrong link. You all don't want to understand how to start a free-lance illustration career. So we'll pass on that. But we've got other things. So come up here, put your hands on these things. Take a look at them. From that stage of just the initial dive into the manuscripts and I'm given a raw manuscript at that point. We worked through the sketches and this probably won't show really well. This is the sketch and I think that this one was probably the biggest turning point for me in the book. Where I took the text and I started to move into the metaphor of Abraham Lincoln as more than just the man who suffered terribly but as the myth that we understand him now. So I got to play with scale and introduce a bit of magic to the story telling and that got me excited, thank you. Please come up and look through these things. So yeah, dive into the research, getting involved with the thinking. That's all drawing is for me. It's just thinking out loud and once you move beyond that point of just drawing for yourself or writing for yourself and you choose to share it. I think that that's genuinely an act of courage. Because you are taking these things that are highly emotional, highly charged, high personal and you choose to share them with other people with the hope that someone else will relate to what you're saying. That's an incredible thing we get to do. So anyway that's pretty much all I wanted to say. I want the pictures to speak for themselves, but come up here and look at these things. Of course this is Walt Whitman and there's other people who are cast in here, but you might not recognize because you haven't met her, but will you stand up real quick? That's my sweet girl Madison there, so this is who I used for reference down on the bottom corner and it's just one of those things - I want to give her some bragging rights as she goes to school. If you can advance one - It is fun to kind of get to work these things in and you know, they're also cheap models. Truth be told. Advance there. And this is - this is one - it's probably one of my favorite spreads from the book and it just had the right tone and mood but I'm not sure if anyone has seen it, but I got to plant a few Easter Eggs in here. So I got to hide their names and my wife's name Shelly is also hidden within this too. So just little things like that that we - we do to take these stories and make ourselves excited about them, to make ourselves passionate about them and share them out with other folks. And there's nothing hidden or secret in this, but one of the things that I really tried to do in this story is I tried to - I got on everything from Google Maps and tried to explore the - tried to triangulate the information that Bob put together about which window was Lincoln's, which room he would have been writing in. It turns out the White House this one or this one, he actually may have been writing in either one burning the midnight oil. And this of course is Whitman walking down the street, and I was trying to make sure I got the muddy streets at that time period right and other information, you can advance. I mentioned process for those of you who haven't seen the sketches. This is what the drawings looked like before I messed them up with paint. So I wish I could have just left them all as drawings and my dad told me to do that, and you know of course I had to take them to some level of finish. But Walt Whitman is hidden up here in the top left corner. It's a bit of a - you know where's Waldo and maybe Ralph Waldo Emerson would have been a better choice. But advance please. And the rest are just - I was going to show these as a means of telling the story between the lines. One of the things that I got from NC Wyeth that he would talk about is he never wanted to illustrate literally the story, he wanted to illustrate the scenes that happen between the lines. So if you've seen the original Treasure Island by Robert Lewis Stevenson there's a scene where Gem is at the Admiral Benbo and he's leaving home. We know that he has to leave home to go on this huge adventure and his mother is in tears. She's breaking down all the background, well that scene is never written about. But it must have happened, so a lot of the story and a lot of the things I was trying to interject was to add texture and substance to what Bob wrote from the historical record of his interpretation of that and just bring things to this that allowed both of us to write part of the script. So he is writing with words, I'm writing with pictures. >> Robert Burleigh: I do a little bit myself. For example in that part where Walt looks at Lincoln in the coach as he drives by. I did watch from the corner but I brought him in a little closer to sort of make it seem like there was a real connection, as opposed [Inaudible] across the lot. That kind of - I made the scene in the story that as close as we are. It was probably more like you and somebody that distance between because [Inaudible] I think that's kind of parallel to what you're talking about. >> Sterling Hundley: It was really interesting as I got into the research I found some excerpts that you had used as points of reference. I found some original sources, and what's incredible with what Bob did is there's a huge amount of creativity that goes into figuring out how to tell the story, the perspective, the audience in mind, trying to stitch these things together. So there's - even though we're dealing with you know facts, we're dealing with history there's a huge part of this narrative that is immensely creative in putting these things together. So I started seeing the web that you had to tie together, so this scene was Whitman - I just assumed that these terrible things that he was seeing and experiencing had to move beyond you know him just being there to show joy and to take care of them. This was immensely traumatic for him as well, so I try to stow him away into the side room and the boots are there as indicators of soldiers who passed away, they can't wear boots anymore. They're not there to wear them. So there's little things that became symbols through the story telling that I really enjoyed. But all I want to say in closing, on my part is that I'm grateful to have this opportunity. I'm grateful to have a means by which I process and share things and I think that as you walk around these halls here at the Library of Congress, just remember that 26 letters, nine numbers compile a huge amount of the record of what we understand is recorded thought within Western Civilization. And I think that it's an amazing thing to understand that from those very few limitations original thought has been given life, has been born and has affected all of us in significant ways that we [Inaudible] understand. [ Applause ]