[Sitar background music] >> Carolina Moratti: Hello. Welcome to Share Your Foodways. Share Your FoodWays is brought to you by Division of Life Cultural Heritage Arts, Institute of Middlesex County. I'm so happy to be here today because we're going to have a special person with us. We have today right here with us Nasrin Rafiq, who is going to show us Afghani food. And it's going to share traditions and all the stuff that we do here in Share Your Foodways, how we can understand culture and how do we bring all of that to the US? How do we bring our traditions, our food, our culture, our history with us? And we can have a better example that her today with us to share and bring us all that information and all that amazing knowledge. So thank you so much. Let me welcome you to the kitchen of Share Your Foodways today. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Thank you so much. It is so honor and big pleasure for me to participate in a very, very traditional and also very, very excited part of the program to share my food and to my culture to you. Let me first start from the beginning. >> Carolina Moratti: Yes. >> Nasrin Rafiq: This is Nasrin Rafiq. I'm from Afghanistan. In 2017, I moved to the US with my family, my son, under Israeli visa because I was long employee of USAID projects in Afghanistan. Due to my good job, good performance, I was awarded HIB visa and I was able to come and thanks to the US, thanks to the U.S. government, to save my life because I was under so much threat by Taliban at that time and I was working for women empowerment. Being a woman and working for a woman in Afghanistan, it is not an easy thing. I never scared because I want to do something for my people, especially for my women in Afghanistan. We did a lot for Afghanistan. And we reach ourselve to the most vulnerable and disadvantaged women in the districts and the villages part of the Afghanistan to build their capacity to show them how to find their ways, how to be self-sufficient, how to stand on their own feet. And we encouraged the women to move forward, to build their capacity and also to expand their businesses. For example, Saffron. I have saffron, Afghanistan, saffron with me while we started, the saffron business was very low, but we tried and we worked with women. And then finally, right now, Afghanistan, Saffron, among all the other countries is the best. And we received so much awards. Everything is cultivated by women from beginning stage up to all the process. >> Carolina Moratti: You keep mentioning 2017. I'm totally impressed by the fact that it wasn't too long ago and you were able to brought all your culture and all this beautiful stuff that you have in here. I want you to talk about all of this with us and show with us your ingredients, your flag or your culture with you. I can see your essence and I can see how proud you are of your roots. You know your country and you come here to the kitchen and you brought all of us. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Most of family in Afghanistan, we start our day with this. We call it Hispant. What is the reason behind this? Most of the family bring positive energy and take out all the negative energy from your house and clean up your house. >> Carolina Moratti: So this container, you said that it got brought to you in 2017. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yes. >> Carolina Moratti: From your country. >> Nasrin Rafiq: From my country. Even it's very hot. But I keep it because I like it. >> Carolina Moratti: It is nice. And, you know, and you are bringing the traditions here, which is one of what we want to see. You want me to bring it closer to you. >> Nasrin Rafiq: No, I can see. >> Carolina Moratti: This container has holes in the bottom. Like, you can see like that right here. It has holes in the bottom. And you're just going to put the mix, right. >> Nasrin Rafiq: We are reading something. Maybe it's difficult for me to translate it in English. It means that I'm burning this because of the safety of my family, because of the happiness of my family, because I want the all positive energy. I want to go out from my house. Something, for example, that I right now I'm reading, I love, bye bye, bye bye. You know. From preparation from generation from my mom. >> Carolina Moratti: Like a prayer. >> Nasrin Rafiq: It's fun. Bond back enjoying advantage me speech and say, but in this... [speaking in Pashto] It means that I burn all devils, everything in the fire. >> Carolina Moratti: I love it. Thank you so much for sharing it. >> Nasrin Rafiq: It is burning at me. That's all. One day my mother called me, called me and my sister. My elder sister in Germany right now. She said, "Nasrin and Seema, I know that you're... everything is ready for you, but one day you will marry. Maybe you or your husband will be poor. What will happen if you cannot cook? What will happen?" I said, "Oh my God!" This was the time that I really woke up. I woke up and I said, "Oh, my mom is right." Then, then I started. I said, "Okay, show me." My mother was a very good cook. Very, very good cook. And then, I started to learn from my mom. We are making palaw. It's, it's very famous pulao, Kabuli Pulao. It is made from rice, specific rice. Mostly we are, we are using saffron. The idea behind this is that it is good for the digestion. It is good for the stomach and also, it is good for the brain. Mostly, especially this saffron cultivated in west part of the country, sometimes in the north part because it needs a specific climate, that they have a beautiful flower. And through this flower, they are, the woman is collecting the saffron... extract the saffron from this. But as long as it is expensive, most of the families, it's hard for them to use it. But for me, I am using always. >> Carolina Moratti: So what are we going to be making today? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Kabuli Pulao is a very traditional food for Afghanistan, we are cooking on a special occasions, because it is a bit expensive and a bit takes so much time. That's why we cannot, we cannot make it everyday, but we can make it while we have guests and also some special occasions. But it's very delicious, by the way. Very delicious. It is from making from, from rice, from lamb and of course, raisins and carrot and then from nuts, we are putting on the top is nuts, all kind of nuts. Of course, other ingredients, you see the spices, whatever that you can see it. We can put it in the rice. We have a, we have a pot here. Of course, that is already.. >> Carolina Moratti: Boiling. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yeah. We have to steam the, the saffron. We cannot boil saffron directly. We have to steam it. What I'm doing, okay, by the way. I wash my hands, but I have gloves. Okay, This is, this is the saffron. That I just put this, a bit, not a lot because, you know, saffron is expensive. >> Carolina Moratti: Yeah, absolutely. It's very expensive. So we work on the tea, right? So you're doing this, there's saffron in there. And now we're going to start with the rice, right? You say you have the rice in the bag already soaking in water? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yes. >> Carolina Moratti: You said how many hours? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Two hours. >> Carolina Moratti: Two hours. Just with water. Do you wash it before and then let it sink? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Ten times. I'm washing the rice. It should be clean, completely clean. It should be, the water should be clean. >> Carolina Moratti: Okay, perfect. And now we're going to proceed to do the rice. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Can I do it? >> Carolina Moratti: Yes. >> Nasrin Rafiq: The water is boiling. >> Carolina Moratti: Yeah. I love this part. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Oh, by the way, this is also sending by my family. >> Nasrin Rafiq: You can not find this. >> Carolina Moratti: Absolutely. That's why I ask. So... >> Nasrin Rafiq: The rice. >> Carolina Moratti: Oh, you have the rice in here. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yeah, can I put it? >> Carolina Moratti: Yeah. but let me ask you, what do you put on the water? >> Nasrin Rafiq: The water? Just raw rice. I'm putting the rice. >> Carolina Moratti: No, but before, did you just put something on the water? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Right now, I'm putting some salt, that's all. >> Carolina Moratti: That's it. Okay. >> Nasrin Rafiq: What I'm doing, I'm just shaking it, a bit. Putting a bit salt. >> Carolina Moratti: You have a special salt, right? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yeah, I'm buying from the Indian. >> Carolina Moratti: Okay, so you, you rely on a lot of the Indian stores here to get your stuff. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yeah, mostly. Mostly there is a similarity. >> Carolina Moratti: Yes. >> Nasrin Rafiq: There is a similarity. >> Carolina Moratti: When we do rice normally here, if we do like how I do it, If I do one cup of rice, I will use two cups of water. How is like the balance that you have for your rice? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Okay, ten minutes. It should be boiled for ten minutes. >> Carolina Moratti: Okay >> Nasrin Rafiq: Then, we just drain the water and then we put the rice and then we put all the other ingredients. >> Carolina Moratti: But if you put two cups of rice, how much water kind of you have to put? >> Nasrin Rafiq: According to our measurement, at least, the water should be like this, while you're putting the rice, the water should be above of the rice like this. >> Carolina Moratti: Okay. The whole thing, yeah, okay. >> Nasrin Rafiq: And also, I am also boiling the nuts. >> Carolina Moratti: Oh, wow, okay. >> Nasrin Rafiq: After this, I, I cook meat. The meat is also, we are putting the lamb with, with olive oil or what kind of vegetable oil, whatever. >> Carolina Moratti: Good. So, like probably half of it. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yes, half. >> Carolina Moratti: Yes. okay. >> Nasrin Rafiq: What I'm doing, I told you that I have a powder, of onion powder. >> Carolina Moratti: Yes. They use very organic. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yes. It's organic. >> Carolina Moratti: Yes You remind me a lot when my grandma used to cook with me because it was like, she will just know how much to put in it without having, you know, exact amount. She's like, Oh, yeah yeah, You just throw this like. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yes. Yes. >> Carolina Moratti: And you guys have no idea, it smells so good in this kitchen right now. Like about, like a quarter of a cup. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Enough. >> Carolina Moratti: Yes. >> Nasrin Rafiq: It should be, it should be a little bit, not completely dark but... >> Carolina Moratti: What kind of golden? Yeah. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Golden. >> Carolina Moratti: Yeah. >> Nasrin Rafiq: My mom first started from how to cook Pulao. Or we call it rice. Rice, it's not easy because it is brown. And my mom started to teach me that first, how I should soak the, how to wash the rice and how to put it, for how many hours, then, how to cook it. And for this, you have to, we are, we have another kind of tradition, mostly for the coloring, for the brown color. Here, there is some kind of sauce. No! We are making natural. We are, onion, we are making from onion. We are frying onion. And then, after this, we are mixing the chicken soup or whatever inside of this. It is very delicious, by the way. I miss my mom's cooking. Yeah, she was... She started from very essentials food which is based on our culture. >> Carolina Moratti: And what are we going to do with these onions when they're ready? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Well, it's really then, what I, I just drain this, the water of this rice. Then, I mix it with the rice or sometimes I'm putting in the lamb, lamb soup. >> Carolina Moratti: Oh. Okay. >> Nasrin Rafiq: I'm making the lamb soup, with lamb. >> Carolina Moratti: Okay. So now, we are getting ready to start kind of doing the rice. So I know you have the rice, that it looks amazing. I haven't seen a long grain like this in, I think, never. It looks so beautiful. We have the onions that we hydrate with the olive oil in the batter and we have the lamb in here, that, it's been boiling. You have the raisin in here and you have the saffron. So now, you're going to start putting it together. It is amazing. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Thank you so much. Thank you for helping me fry this onion. >> Carolina Moratti: Of course. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Sometimes what I'm doing, that while I'm frying this onion powder, I'm putting a bit here for the taste. >> Carolina Moratti: Okay. >> Nasrin Rafiq: But the rest, I can include it, I can include... >> Carolina Moratti: I got it. So we're going to add it on the lamb, right? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Not that, not so much... because it will be oily. >> Carolina Moratti: More of the onion, right? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yes. >> Carolina Moratti: Okay. So one spoon. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yeah-- No... >> Carolina Moratti: Everything? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Everything. >> Carolina Moratti: Oh, okay. Perfect. You know, there is never enough garlic. That is never enough onion. They always make the food better. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yeah. >> Carolina Moratti: So we're going to use it? Oh, I'm going to grab the oil in there because we already have the grease from the lamb. Right? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yeah. >> Carolina Moratti: So, what do you add in there? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Okay, I add a little carrot and raisins. >> Carolina Moratti: Okay, so you hydrate that before, right? >> Nasrin Rafiq: In this what I'm doing, this is cardamom. This is cardamom, and I have the salt. >> Carolina Moratti: So before we forget, So, this is the raisins and the carrot, and I smell some, something in there. What do you add to it? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Okay, what I'm doing, well, I wash everything. And of course, I soak the raisin, so all the dust of it, should gone. And then, I'm putting them in on the oil and fry, fry both of them. And then what I'm doing, I'm putting a bit sugar. >> Carolina Moratti: Yes. >> Nasrin Rafiq: And a cardamom. >> Carolina Moratti: So it's cardamom powder? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yes. I put the cardamom already. But to show you that I'm putting this like this. >> Carolina Moratti: Okay. It smells so good, guys. It really does. So this is a very fragrant dish. Rich and flavorful. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Okay. What I'm doing right now, I put a little of this because still I have rice over there. >> Carolina Moratti: So it's just, this is just the lamb with some water, right? Pretty much the stock of the lamb. Do you add anything to the lamb before? >> Nasrin Rafiq: No. >> Carolina Moratti: Okay. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Because for the lamb, I already cooked it. It's, no, no water inside this. It's just meat, oil and onion and garlic. >> Carolina Moratti: Wow. Okay. Yeah, I can see the onion in it. >> Nasrin Rafiq: What I'm doing, I'm frying the lamb. After it's fried and it's soft, then I'm putting the onion and the garlic and then the water, putting to boil to mash. Okay. Right now, I'm putting the rest... Okay, what I'm doing, right now, I'm putting everything. All the meat and everything. >> Carolina Moratti: You want me to hold that for you? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Oh, thank you. >> Carolina Moratti: I got it. >> Nasrin Rafiq: It's very delicious meat. You cannot find this kind of meat everywhere. >> Carolina Moratti: Yeah... I can tell you enough, guys, this smells so good. And the meat is almost off the bone. >> Nasrin Rafiq: I'm making hole. Why I am making a hole? So that the steam should go down in half. >> Carolina Moratti: Okay, so you're making holes to be able to bring the steam up to the mix, right? And let me ask you something, this is a specific part of the lamb. it's a special cut? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yes. It's from the leg, leg of the... sheep. >> Carolina Moratti: Good. >> Nasrin Rafiq: People can use every shoulder, but I don't want to use shoulders. >> Carolina Moratti: Yeah. So what are we... >> Nasrin Rafiq: This is the garam masala. >> Carolina Moratti: The garam mix that you blend, right? >> Nasrin Rafiq: The one that I told you, that I'm buying all the spices, natural spices, organic from the Indian store, then I make it at home. >> Carolina Moratti: Yes. >> Nasrin Rafiq: And I... >> Carolina Moratti: Can I grab it to show you one more time? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yes. Please. >> Carolina Moratti: Yes. So this is all... the stuff that you put it together at home and then you blend it and that's what you're adding to the rice right now. Very fragrant. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Okay, right now, I'm putting all these raisins and carrot on the top. >> Carolina Moratti: Okay. >> Nasrin Rafiq: People mix it, but I'm using mostly the top. >> Carolina Moratti: Okay. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Then I will show you that how I can, I can put it in the plate. Can you smell that? >> Carolina Moratti: Absolutely. It smells so good. Yes. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yes. >> Carolina Moratti: It really looks amazing. So you're using the rest of the butter, right? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yeah, I'm using the rest of the butter. >> Carolina Moratti: Okay. >> Nasrin Rafiq: I already, I already boiled the... >> Carolina Moratti: Yeah, we did. >> Nasrin Rafiq: And then I'm putting, the big one that's available here. But it is not as tasty as this one. >> Carolina Moratti: So you're going to peal it off, the skin? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yes. >> Carolina Moratti: Okay. >> Nasrin Rafiq: What I'm doing, that right now, I am mixing, I am mixing this nuts on the top of the raisins and the carrot. Okay. Right now I have ready saffron. If you see, this already... already ready. What I'm doing, I'm putting... some people is putting in advance, but I'm not putting it in advance. >> Carolina Moratti: It will help to preserve the flavors the way you're doing it anyways. And the color of the saffron is going to be, is going to give to the rice. It's going to be just amazing. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Even the colors. >> Carolina Moratti: I love the color. I use when I do a Spanish rice and it works perfectly. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Okay. What I'm putting, I'm putting the, but we have, I have at home the special cloths for the dressing to put on the top. But what I'm doing, I'm putting this on the top, what I'm doing, but I'm just like this. >> Carolina Moratti: Make a little flap. Yes. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Like this. And then again, I'm putting the holes. It should be not blocked. >> Carolina Moratti: So we always have to remember that make the holes to make this... >> Nasrin Rafiq: It should be like... Yeah. It's fine. No, no. It's fine. >> Carolina Moratti: It's fine. >> Nasrin Rafiq: It's fine. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Because... >> Carolina Moratti: Then you're gonna cover it up. >> Nasrin Rafiq: And then what I'm doing, I am pressing. Sometimes-- >> Carolina Moratti: To create some steam, right? >> Nasrin Rafiq: People making dough and putting the dough on and cover it. They steam shouldn't go out. Okay. Or sometimes we are putting some very heavy things here. This is Khabuli. But at least for 10 minutes, we put it in the hall. I heat, then we have to make it low. Otherwise it will be burned because of, it should be... Have a more. What do you call? To cook well. To cook well. >> Carolina Moratti: This remind me of a dish we have in my country too. We put clay and cover it with clay or put it under. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yeah. We are also putting clay. >> Carolina Moratti: Yeah. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Or sometimes I making do at home here. I cannot find clay, I'm making dough and I, from the dough I putting like this over, around this. >> Carolina Moratti: I will take you to a friend that has a clay over here in New Brunswick. Yes. I will take you there and maybe we can make some bread together in there. >> Nasrin Rafiq: I love it. I can make bread. Because I was opening a bakery, woman bakeries in Afghanistan in our clay oven. I love my clay. I miss my clay oven. Oh, my gosh, that bread is so delicious. >> Carolina Moratti: It is something special about the clay, the wood, you know, the aromas in there and the mix. It bring a lot of stuff. So, you do your bread and I will make empanadas for you on that oven. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Thank you much. Thank you. >> Carolina Moratti: So before we forget, high heat, right? >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yeah. >> Carolina Moratti: Okay. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Maybe four, four. >> Carolina Moratti: Eight more minutes. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Maybe 5 minutes, not more. >> Carolina Moratti: Perfect. >> Nasrin Rafiq: And this is, the steam is coming out. You see the smoke already starting to come out. If the steam, and then there is a voice... it means that the rice is ready to put it in the-- >> Carolina Moratti: So we will wait for the steam and the sounds. That will let us know that it's almost ready. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yes. >> Carolina Moratti: Perfect. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Well, the main point, after 30 minutes, it should have a very high steam. You see while I'm taking out the cover... You see? You see the steam? >> Carolina Moratti: Yes. Amazing. All the flavors and the colors. And I'm amazed that the colors is still in there. You can have all the bright colors in there. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yeah. What I'm doing, I'm taking all these out, all. Maybe a bit rice also as well. >> Carolina Moratti: Okay. >> Nasrin Rafiq: This is saffron. >> Carolina Moratti: Yeah, I can see the color. Before, you know, the rice was white, but now you can see the color, the saffron gave the rice and it's yellowish. And it's full of color. And the smell, I can't even describe it. It's absolutely amazing. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Thank you. Okay. What I'm doing right now, you see, I'm mixing everything. I'm mixing. >> Carolina Moratti: I'm impressed by the rice. It's really amazing, how it keeps texture, it keeps it's size. And, you know, it's just so nice. >> Nasrin Rafiq: You see the saffron? >> Carolina Moratti: Yeah. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Then I told you that it is oily, it's a very oily dish. What I'm doing because, to extract some oils, I'm just tilting the pan like this, that the oil will come down. I noticed that people here not eating so much oily food, but this is the nature of this dish. >> Carolina Moratti: Yeah. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Can you please just hold it? Thank you. >> Carolina Moratti: Yes, I got this. Sure. >> Nasrin Rafiq: What I'm doing, I'm putting the meat inside of the rice. Sometimes they are putting, they are saying that the meat under the rice. This is, this is that thing that we are putting the meat under the rice. Okay. This is done. What I'm doing, whatever that I just put on the top, I'm putting on the top of this dish. >> Carolina Moratti: Oh, we're gonna to top it up with the colors of the other ingredients. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Like me, it's colorful. >> Carolina Moratti: Yeah. Thank you so much. You gave us everything and more. It's such an experience, such a culinary adventure we experienced today. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Can I pour you some rice? >> Carolina Moratti: Yes. Yes, please. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Please just taste and tell me. Do you like it? >> Carolina Moratti: Yes. The lamb and everything. >> Nasrin Rafiq: This is the lamb. >> Carolina Moratti: I'm gonna take a little bit of the salad. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yes. Yes, please. >> Carolina Moratti: We put the bread on the fire. And it's nice and soft, so I'm going to grab the bread with a little piece of lamb. And I'll eat it like that with the rice. A little bit of everything. And let me thank you one more time. This is just totally amazing. Mmm--- Mmm! Thank you. This was so amazing. >> Nasrin Rafiq: I am so happy that you love the Afghani food. >> Carolina Moratti: The flavors and everything is so good. Fragrant, vibrant, flavorful. You can smell that this is from home. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Yeah. This is, really... It's an honor for us that you love the Afghani food that I cooked. >> Carolina Moratti: Yeah. Like my brothers will say, this is food made with love. This is what you gave us today. I want to thank you for that. >> Nasrin Rafiq: This is really by love. >> Carolina Moratti: Amazing. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Enjoy, my dear. >> Carolina Moratti: Thank you so much for sharing your foodways. >> Nasrin Rafiq: Thank you so much. Thank you. Enjoy. And also sharing it, is a idea. It has a, look, behind this, there is a big idea, while you are sharing a bowl of food, everything. It means that, I say, bring a united to the family. Everybody is together. Everybody is enjoying, talking, laughing and enjoying the food. I keep my culture. I want to continue and I don't want to forget it and I want to transfer it to generation, to my son, to my grandson, to everybody that, no, we have a rich, because we have a rich culture. More than 100,000 years culture. But everything was, of course I'm not counting about current, our current situation is completely different. But my country, in Afghanistan, we have a very rich culture. We have a rich tradition. We are the very good people. I mean, very, you know, trying to do something, trying to bring some kind of changes. I miss my country. I miss my people and I miss my, you know, I did a lot for Afghanistan. I hope that one day, one day, we will be able to go to Afghanistan. And I--I will be showing you a life. This is my culture. This is my country. We have a very beautiful country. We have very beautiful people. Inshallah. Inshallah, Inshallah. [Background music continues]