>> Good afternoon everyone. My name is Kathy McGuigan from the Library of Congress and I'd like to welcome you to today's Professional Development Educator Webinar. Today's topic is Finding Resources on loc.gov. So some housekeeping items before we get started. We are recording this program and we will serve the recording as soon as we are able. As this event will be recorded, any questions or other participant contributions may be publicly available as part of the Library's archives. Participants in the live program are eligible for a certificate of participation certifying one hour. More on that at the end of the program. You'll have the opportunity to talk to each other and to the presenters via chat and I see a few of you have already gotten started. So I'm going to encourage everybody else to step up and get started using chat. While I'm introducing today's program, you can use chat to tell us your name, where you're joining us from, and why you came here today. Please make sure -- Excuse me. Hold on one second. Please make sure that you select the two box in the dropdown box, select all participants. Sorry, I can't do two things at once. Alright, so now on to today's program. Foundations: Findings Resources on loc.gov. The Library of Congress website offers millions of digitized primary sources free to use with your students along with many free teacher resources. In a second we'll share tips for finding resources in the library's vast collection by navigating loc.gov and effectively using the library's search engine. So be prepared to have your questions answered and let us help you find what you need. Our speakers today are all educational resource specialists at the Library of Congress. We have with us today Danna Bell, Cheryl Lederle, and Stacie Moats. I'm pleased now to turn the mike over to our first speaker, Cheryl. >> Thank you Kathy and thanks to all the participants. I'm delighted to see the lively chat already. It bodes well for a lively interaction for the coming hour. So here are our goals. Together, we will first tour shortcuts to finding primary sources on loc.gov, what of the quick ways and then we'll explore techniques for constructing original searches on loc.gov. And to break this up, we've divvied this up into three parts because we're doing a lot more demo than we would typically do. We've made some interactive pieces but it's not quite as interactive as our usual show. The first thing I have to explain is why there's now an elephant on your screen. When Danna and Stacie and I were planning this, we just started tossing around primary sources because there are so many of them and they're so interesting. We like to joke that there's a primary source for every purpose and so we picked one for Danna first. You'll see it later. And then went back in and Stacie and I each picked one and I went with the elephant because I'm showing you the shortcuts. And in my mind, this elephant reminded me of the story of the five blind men and the elephant. It's huge and yet nobody sees the whole of it and so it's really helpful to share your discoveries to get through it. And that's a quick picture of me in my work-from-home environment. We keep our cameras off because we often have some bandwidth problems and let's hope that doesn't happen to us today. So this is a version of the library's home page and I put it that way because you can see the arrows to the left and right. Not only do the pages scroll, highlight different programs and activities at the Library but because it's a website, it also changes frequently. So this is your starting place here at the library's homepage. If you scroll to the very bottom of the homepage, you'll find and I will pause at a couple of intervals and direct you to parts of the website. So I would encourage you right now to just listen and follow along with your eyes and then we'll get you on the website. At the bottom of the library's homepage is a set of resources. Sorry, I was reading a note from somebody. Thanks Elizabeth. Yes, I know that the images do arrive on screen quite late and I hadn't realized the lag time was quite that severe today. You'll find free to use and reuse sets . The current set is on weddings and in fact our colleague Danna who will be joining this, will be presenting in a little bit actually compiled this set which is really fun to see her thinking on that. If you want to see more than just weddings, the orange circle now is around the link that says "browse more content that is free to use and reuse" and let me just emphasize these materials are selected with an eye toward they are free of any copyright entanglement. So you can use them in your teaching. You can put them on T-shirts, whatever you like. Here's a selection of the sets available. You can get a sense that they range from pretty serious to the really quite perfectly frivolous. My personal favorite probably is slightly to the left and toward the bottom of the screen, the sort of gold box that says "Edward Penfield His Book" is in a set on cats. The Internet loved us that month. But even the set that seems frivolous, like free to use and reuse ice cream, I look at that image and I see a lot of lesson possibility in the image that's there. Yvonne, thank you for your question. Are all images on loc.gov in the public domain? No, they're not which is why these sets are really wonderful. I would say the majority of them are but you really want to do your rights assessment before you do anything beyond the bounds of fair use. And that would be a whole different webinar so we're not going to of too far into that. I would encourage you to continue put your questions in the chat box. I may or may not stop. Yvonne's was pretty quick and easy to respond to, so that made sense to me. But some of them, we might pick up later but please do enter your questions. So now what I'd like you to do, Stacie is going to put a link in the chat box to the free to use and reuse set or you can just go to loc.gov and scroll to the bottom of the page. But I would like you to take just a minute to explore those and then share in the chat box. Kathy, I'm not seeing all participants in my choice and I wonder if Stacie is seeing that as a choice. Could you double check your magic. Oh, now I see it. Direct your conversations to all participants about your discoveries. Stacie, if you're there and can put the link in the chat, that would be great. >> Cheryl, my apology. It's not coming up for me. I only have all attendees. >> Okay, Danna, can you jump in while Stacie sorts it out? Mike, thank you. >> I've been putting this in. >> This is why we're redundantly staffed. So there is a chat -- There is a link in the chat. And take a minute to explore the set. And if you see a set that you might use in your teaching, it would be great if you would put the link to that set in the chat and then maybe a word or two about how you'd use it because for me, the sharing of what would I do with it is always the most important part of the sharing. So I'm going to actually go silent for about a minute and invite you to go ahead and explore for just a minute. >> And thank you Ian [assumed spelling] for kicking us off with the link to the World War One posters and a note that you would use them for a gallery walk. I notice Laura has put in discovery and exploration. Love to know what you would do with it. Tamera or Tamora, I apologize for not knowing how to pronounce your name, notes that Black woman organizers would be powerful for right now. Billy Kotterman [assumed spelling] has found a picture and says this is perfect for my class on depiction of African-Americans during and after the Civil War. And Kathy has entered a reminder to select all participants when responding or asking questions please and she'll collect the questions and serve them back to us for a Q&A following the presentation. Angela likes the cat set and might use them in a compare and contrast discussion with the dog set. That's putting in two. I'm going to invite you as soon as it is comfortable to drift on back over to the webinar. Leave that tab open if you'd like. I encourage you to leave things so you can find them again. But draw your attention back here. And in just about ten seconds I'm going to keep on moving. I love this lively conversation. Some really good ideas. Also, don't feel like if you can't keep up with the chat because it's moving fast, don't feel like you have to. We will save this and it'll be available to you after this event. So back to the library's homepage as an anchor point for more shortcuts. If you look to the bottom of the page, you'll see the orange box is around digital collection. And Stacie has put the link to loc.gov in the chat if you're wanting to follow along. I want to just pop into the digital collections page briefly. Danna will likely get to this later. The orange circle now is around one of my personal favorite collections. This is a little like a favorite child, though, right, how can you choose. This is chronicling America, historic American newspapers collection and there are some shortcuts to this to searching these more than 16 million pages, yes, that's correct, 16 million pages. And again Danna will likely get into the searching for that a little bit later in her part of the presentation when she goes a little deeper in constructing a search originally but I'm going with the shortcuts. And I direct your attention to the left column where the orange circle is or will quickly appear around recommended topics. The folks who work with these newspapers compile these topics to some of the most popular topics and I want to just follow along. It's okay. You don't have to follow step by step. Just watch where I am now and we'll make sure you get caught up. I'm going in by subject. Oh, I don't know why this is taking off. Topics by subject and I want to take a look at one in art education, culture crazes and trends just because it strikes me as having some fun possibilities. And this is what you might find. I picked a simple one that again I thought was fun but you could certainly go with much more serious topics. The topics range from things that you're definitely teaching to things that you probably haven't thought about that you might want to later and I picked the Ouija board. They also have the same general pattern of an introduction telling you what it was and then below that a timeline. And it goes on quite a bit farther but for the purposes of getting a screen tap, we just have the top part of the timeline. And then you can see up in the left where the orange box is, there's a tab to go to search strategies and selected articles as well. And this is probably for my money the most valuable part of this, of these topics pages because they tell you how to get into the collection. They tell you how to think historically about the topic. And again Danna will go deeper into thinking historically when you're searching the library's collections. But for example Ouija board, sure, talking board, okay I can see that but I wouldn't have thought of it. [inaudible], I have to go look up that word. I really don't know what it is. So lots of search terms that will find you more like this. And then selected articles, is it really just some, not all, and I guarantee if you ran the searches, you could find this many and more. If you have really struggling research [inaudible], this might be the basis for their research. They can read these and they can draw their conclusions and collect their evidence for it. So back to the topics by subject page and I'm going to ask Stacie to put that link in one more time and ask you once more to take just a minute, just a minute to explore any of the topics and share your discoveries and see that you are have continued in the chat sharing some possibilities. So take just about one minute to go to topics by subject. Gretchen, I'm going to answer your question because the answer is I don't actually know because I've never done it. I suspect that the articles are selected because they cover a range of geography and perspectives on the topic but I don't know. As I say, I haven't done it. Again, Stacie has put topics by subject in the chat box for you. Take just a minute to explore and share what you find. Yes, Gretchen, what goes into these topics guides are hand selected. The search, of course, the search results themselves are randomized. It's a keyword search and they just come up. Thank you. Lauren likes a variety of different topics under the struggle for human rights and freedom. Angela points out that Houdini guide, loves magic. Mike Appledorf [assumed spelling] points out this is timely America Spanish flu. Gary points out Carnegie libraries in the US. Karen, no idea. It's information that could be found but I don't know. And Robert also is tuned into the Spanish flu topic guide. If that's of interest, we've done a bit around that topic. Bernard asked how often topics are added. It's a little bit as staff has time to put them together. There are obviously probably literally infinite number of possibilities. So it's a little bit of -- Lisa says requested item could not be found when requesting more here from Houdini. I'm not sure if you want to save that for the Q&A, Lisa. We'll dig into it. Karen, bicycle fashion, who knew. That's a fascinating topic because bicycles actually changed women's fashion mores in ways that I had no idea until I started poking around in this. I'm glad that you found some successes and I appreciate the sharing. Now I would like to introduce to you my colleague Stacie. This is the image that she picked, the dog bark park and here's her explanation. She said this is perfect because these are Stacie's personal dogs, so you can see the connection between the dog bark park and here Stacie with her new puppy Chloe. So I'm going to say thank you for your energy, thank you for your attention. I'm going to meet myself and turn this over to Stacie who's going to take you through to one of our faithful companions, the teachers' page. >> Great. Thanks so much Cheryl and thank you all for being here today with us. We really appreciate you spending your time and hope you find a lot to help you in your teaching. So we turn now to the Library of Congress homepage and we're right underneath the main image. And if you're looking in real-time on your own page, it might be different. But you'll see beneath their Cheryl has highlighted for me teachers and that is your direct link to get to the teachers' page. So Cheryl, if you click on through, the teachers' page is really like your one stop shop for everything teacher focused, free, ready-to-use materials for teaching with the library's digitized primary sources. And if I can point you to a particular our professional development offerings for this summer that are ongoing. I know you've already found your way here, the one on the right the free educator webinars; however, you might not know that it's a recurring series and so the next session next Wednesday at 2:00 p.m. Eastern is going to be focused pairing primary sources and picture books and I hope you'll take a look at other upcoming offerings. To the left of that you'll see our online office hours. I'm sorry, if we could just go back to the online office hours for education in these are every Tuesday also at 2:00 o'clock Eastern time. And these are little more informal and they provide more opportunity to engage in Q&A with library experts as well as with your teacher colleagues on various topics from the library's website. And I think the one next week is going to be focused on 20th century political cartoons at the library. So a lot of great information that you can get that way. If you continue on though, I'd like to share another resource that I find particularly useful. This is our teaching with the Library of Congress blog. And if you are familiar with it, we just hit our big milestone, 1000 posts, which to me is incredible because I remember when we first started and even ten seemed like a lot, not only colleagues from our learning innovation office team but also from across the library and partners contribute to this blog. And if you go on through Cheryl, you'll see that you can look at it not only chronologically, we've actually gone here to the second page because you can go backwards in time at different posts. You can also take a look there on the left, you'll see at the top you can search the blog by key word. So for instance, if you were to look on engineering for instance, you could find, I think the last time I looked more than 40 posts tied to engineering and STEM-related activities. You also can look by name. So for instance, Jason Reynolds, our National Ambassador For Young People's Literature, several posts relating to [inaudible] newsletters. So lots of ways to search this blog. And again, just great teacher-focused material on all kinds of topics, as you can see their. Copyright, Hispanic American heritage, United States history, you name it and there's probably something for you here. So moving back to the teachers' page again, I want to point to the classroom materials because this section for me is really just I think extremely valuable especially when you get into my favorite resource, the primary source set. And again, you can see we have other things like lesson plans and collection connections but for me the primary source sets, if you just use one, these are the ready-to-use materials that you want for your classroom or for the online learning environment. So primary source sets homepage here, you can see we've got about three dozen now. I think we've got 36 at last count and they cover just a variety of topics and connecting to everything from English language arts to geography, civics, you know, government, you name it, I'm sure you can find a connection here. Just looking at this page, you can see Alexander Hamilton, baseball, children's lives at the turn of the 20th century, a lot of really great things. And Cheryl, if you'll go into the dust bowl primary source set as an example on the next page, you'll see that each of these is carefully curated for you. So the work has been done for you and that's just so valuable. At the top there, there's a dust bowl teachers guide and each of the primary source sets have this. And it provides you as the teacher with historical context for the topic, teaching suggestions as well as online resources from the library and elsewhere. And Cheryl has also highlighted, that I'm going to take a second before going to it, the analysis tool and guide. Below that you'll see just as this example the dust bowl different thumbnails of the primary sources in the set. And again, our team has gone through the millions of digitized primary sources in the library's website and found for you ones that you can use without worrying about copyright. And you can go in here and find for example on this one a map, pictures, manuscripts, some of them depending on the topic. You can find motion pictures, audio recordings all related to the topic of the primary source set. My favorite thing about this also is that when you click on that view PDF, it's going to give you a ready-to-print PDF version of the item and you can also save that. And again, it's going to save you time not having to go into the collection and actually format that yourself. Cheryl, if you go to the next slide. Here are the teachers' guides and analysis tool. And again, this is really the heart of what we do of course with primary sources is helping students with their critical thinking, their inquiry and using this tool, you can help your students document the process as they go through observing, reflecting, questioning. So we have both an online version of the form that is fillable online, which is great, especially now, and a PDF version that is also fillable that could be printed out from there. We also have, as you can see, a lot of teachers' guides. One right there below where it says teachers' guides analyzing primary sources. This is a general guide that will help you facilitate the process for any primary source although we also have, as you can see, many others that are specifically targeting different formats of primary sources. So everything from motion pictures to how to help students look critically at sheet music, newspapers, political cartoons are all there. Under guiding questions I just saw Lisa posted that this is a really great tool and I agree with that. I think for anybody who can just come right in and use this and feel confident in helping your students with that inquiry. So moving forward, Cheryl. I'd like to go back actually to the page where we have those 36 primary source sets and invite you all, as Cheryl did, to take a moment now to just go ahead and explore. And I believe we'll be posting that link if it's not already there yet. Yes, there it is. And if you all want to take a minute to explore and post to that. Yvonne has posted a question about can you make a request for a set. Yvonne, that's a great question. I would suggest you go ahead and send your recommendation to our ask a librarian, which I will get to in just a moment. But yes, we love to hear feedback from teachers all the time. And these are based on a lot of teacher feedback over the years and hopefully are useful to a broad range of teachers. But I see here Margaret has explored and discovered veterans stories that look really good. Thank you Margaret. Great info on the Wright brothers. The question about the forms being different from there. I would say yes. The analysis tool itself is really a very basic tool for documenting students' thinking. The facilitation guides, those teacher's guides, really provide just great jumping off points for facilitating that conversation. So take a look and I hope you'll use it. Seeing primary source sets from different states. Oh, somebody has noticed the one that I love, the Industrial Revolution, [inaudible] Paterson, New Jersey. I myself am from New Jersey. So yay. And again, we can take questions at the end here. Japanese internment sets, women's suffrage. This is great. So as Cheryl said earlier, I encourage you to continue with your search. Feel free to keep that window open or return to it later but we are going to move on now in the interest of time because I want to make sure that my colleague Danna has plenty of time for her think aloud that she's going to be doing. So back now to the library's homepage. And if you click on the top right drop-down menu, you're going to see about halfway down ask a librarian. And this is actually available from a lot of pages on the library site but I wanted to show you how to get to it from the homepage so you don't forget because if you do nothing else today, I hope you will remember that the primary source sets are there for you and that this online service is available for you and for anyone, anywhere in the world. You can use this form to submit a research question or to ask for more information. And one of our reference staff will be routed to the right area if you don't know where it should go. Otherwise, you can specify say for instance the teachers' page and they get back to you with just incredible information and a lot of help. And again, I can't say enough, I really think one of our greatest treasures at the library are the staff experts in our reference staff are second to none in just the fact that anyone can use this is just fantastic. So please do especially as teachers, we hope you will take advantage of that. And along those lines, I want to now share this really interesting illustration. As Cheryl said, this led us all down kind of a fun path when we were talking about our colleague Danna Bell as a wizard. And this is an illustration from a First Edition of "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" and that's part of the library's historical children's books. And there is our colleague Danna Bell who is a wizard truly. She is the person who if you do send a question that gets routed through the ask a librarian to the teachers' page in our LIO team, learning innovation team, Danna is the one who will respond to you. And Danna, as Cheryl said earlier, someone who also creates a ton of resources including that free to use and reuse weddings set and just does an incredible amount of work for us. So before I turn things over to Danna Bell, I'm just showing you how amazing she is. She agreed very gamely to let Cheryl and I pick a topic for her and she is in real time going to do a think aloud for you on the topic. And so Danna, without further ado I'm going to give you your topic which is the transcontinental railroad. So thank you Danna and we can't wait to hear what you have to share. >> Hello. I'm really excited to work with you guys and hopefully in a second I'll be able to share my screen as I go through this process. I receive a number of questions regularly from -- There we go. Alright. I want -- Hang on one second. Alright. There we go. Sorry, sometimes technology and I are not good friends and this is one of those moments. >> Danna, this is Kathy. Do you want to go up and select share. Okay. >> Can you see that I've shared now or are you still seeing other things? >> No, I see a black screen. If you would go to share and select application into your web browser. >> Okay. >> Or just go directly to web browser. There you go. Thank you. >> Alright. Cool. So you're now seeing the library's homepage and the ask a librarian. And I'll point out very quickly if you want to get to me, you go here to teacher resources. So I'm going to go back up to the library's homepage. And if someone asked me questions about the transcontinental railroad, I would take a moment and I would think about terms that I might use such as "transcontinental railroad" would be an obvious one, "Golden Spike" or "spike, westward expansion, trains" and so on down the line. So a lot of times what I do when I'm searching is I do the lazy bear search and put in transcontinental. And you'll notice the pull down screen gives the transcontinental railroad as an option. So I'm going to do a quick search. And you'll notice if you look over here, there are 20,000 items, 20,000 plus items. There is no way that I would go through 20,000 items to answer a reference question. It would simply take too long and we get too many questions and other things to do that. So what I would do is very quickly either go through the first dozen or so or if I'm not seeing anything that's exciting, I would probably use the left navigation. And I'll show you the left navigation in a second. But what I wanted to do is note that when I went to see, when I did the search, I noticed the first thing is the Golden Spike topics in chronicling America, which talks about the joining of the Golden Spike. The next thing is today in history. And today in history is an amazing source that's done by my colleagues in the research and reference division. And what they do is they give you a little bit of background, link to some images and other resources, some maps. And then at the bottom of the page there is a learn more. So this gives you other resources that you might use to look for the transcontinental railroad. So I'm noticing as I go through, there some really good resources on the transcontinental railroad, some images and so on. But what if I wanted to narrow down some more, I didn't want to go through 20,000 items? You'll notice the left navigation over here and this allows you to choose by the original format, for example if you're looking for a specific manuscript, if you want photographs, you can limit by that particular item or particular format. If you're looking for a specific date and in this case we would be looking for the 1800 to 1899 unless we're looking for the impact, for example, of the transcontinental railroad and then we might go into 1900 to 1999. And again, that's another way to limit your search. And the last thing I'll point out is subjects and you can limit by specific subject. And if you don't see your subject listed here, click on more subjects and that gets you into a list of subjects where the transcontinental railroad is mentioned. One thing you'll note is that they have it by number of matches. I always changed alphabetical because going through n ordered list like this would make me slightly crazy. One other thing that I'll point out when I'm doing searches is I look down here for the access condition. Someone asked earlier if everything on the Library of Congress website is in the public domain and Cheryl answered that for you. If you find something that's not in the public domain, you'll only be able to see a teeny tiny thumbnail. So I always click on available online and that gets me things that I know that are in the public domain. So let's limit our search to things from 1800 to 1899. And I want to choose a specific item. And I will tell you we're getting a lot of things from the railroad map, which are really amazing map. But I'm going to click on this particular map. And I'm going to scroll down and look at the bibliographic record for this particular map. And this is another way that if I'm getting stuck, if I find something that really, really works, I will go into the bibliographic record and look and see what terms are used. I might be able to use the contributor name or I might be able to go into a specific collection such as the railroad map. And you notice over here, the subject headings are hot linked. And maybe railroad land grants will lead me into other maps and other resources that would be beneficial. Does [inaudible] have citation links for students? Yes, they do. What I'm going to do is I've clicked back a couple of screens and I'm going to click on this one that says "Central Pacific transcontinental railroad" and I'm going to scroll down and this is from a collection called historic American buildings survey, engineering survey, landscape survey. And you can only do this for individual items. You can't do it for the whole thing or a whole list of things but you'll notice you have the rights advisory to let you know that this particular item is made by the US government which means it's in the public domain. And then you'll see this box that says "cite this item" and you're given the citation for Chicago, APA and MLA. And also if you scroll down to the bottom of the page, you'll get more photos, prints and drawings like this. And the one other question I did see very, very quickly was can you choose by multiple formats. And you're about to make a reference librarian very sad because the answer is no. You can only go through one of these at a time. That said, if I were looking for newspapers instead of going into this right here, though there are some benefits here, I would go into chronicling America first and what I'm doing is I'm going to sneak into chronicling America through the Golden Spike research guide. I think I am anyway. I think I'm going to cheat and go back to the Library's homepage. And to digital collections And to chronicling America. The things to remember, excuse me, about chronicling America is you can limit if you only want information for a specific state, you can limit to say you only wanted things about the transcontinental railroad from Utah. You can limit to just newspapers in Utah. If you don't want to look through every article that mentions railroad from 1789 to 1963, you can limit to say 1866, say to 1891, your choice. Now one thing to think about when you're doing your searches is remember that these are materials that were created at the time the event took place. So terms that we use now like "transcontinental railroad" may not have been the words that were used at the time. And you want to think carefully about the terms that you use. Whoops, sorry. I've got a conference call in 15 minutes. So you just saw me being reminded about it. So choose -- If you're not finding materials and you're using one term, be prepared to use a number of different terms. As I said earlier, go through the subject headings. There may be terms that you want to use. If you do a search and you find too many, go to the advanced search that's here and limit again your date range. And then you could say you only want things with all the words "transcontinental railroad" with the phrase "transcontinental railroad" or with the phrase "transcontinental railroad" within five words of each other. So there are lots of ways to play around to make your search workable. But if you're stuck, last thing I'll say and then I'll turn it over for questions, please don't forget that there is an ask a librarian service that you can use to get questions. And as I said, you can get me through teacher resources but all my colleagues in the other reading rooms are phenomenal and we are bound to get -- We try to get you a response, not an answer because sometimes the answers take a little long than five business days, but we try to get you a response to let you know we've gotten your question, we may have a little bit of information but we need to go a little bit deeper for you within five business days. I can tell you that I try to answer questions pretty quickly but if you send me an [inaudible] question like something on calendar plates, it might take me a little longer. Don't ask. I won't tell. And I'll leave there and turn back to my colleagues. >> Thank you Danna. That was amazing. This is Cheryl and while we were listening, Stacie and I were exchanging notes behind the scenes trying to map your thinking process a bit and it's been really fun monitoring the chat and seeing people on this call tuning into your thinking. So let me get some of the highlights. And Stacie, listen for what I might have forgotten or missed because we had a lot going on in our conversation. So one of the first things Danna did was stop and think about her search term. And she started with the obvious one and then listed other possibilities. And she came back to that later when she got into chronicling when Danna reminded us that historical materials use language other than what we might commonly use. And if we've won you out and you've forgotten everything else, remember primary source sets, ask a librarian, and think historically when you're searching the collections. When she got the long results, more than 20,000, what she did was a quick search and scan. She was looking for shortcuts similar to the sorts of things we looked at and she zeroed in on chronicling topics which you explored extensively, so I don't need to say more about that. And also today in history which is the summary of an event and the learn more. So that's a real goldmine if you find it. The other process Danna used for narrowing her search was to use the left nav, to choose by format. If you know your students, somebody in the chat was talking about looking for a map. If you know you're looking for a map, that's a great way to narrow your search. You might be looking for an item from a particular time or you know an event happened at a particular time, so narrowing by time also is good by date. Danna also scrolled down to the very bottom to get to access condition and she clicked available online to make sure she could get full access to everything she was looking for. Danna, I'm going to pause for a second and invite you back. We had a question for you and that was you said I'm going to choose this map and you opened the transcontinental route of the Atlantic and Pacific railroads. Could you say a little bit more about your thinking process for choosing that map out of the whole long list? >> You're going to laugh but I just kind of chose it, the title kind of looked intriguing and I chose it out of midair. There are times where I don't necessarily choose -- There are times when I choose something because I know it's the right thing. There are times that I choose something because I just need something that's going to pull me forward. And in this particular case, I saw that map and went oh, okay, that might help me through this process and picked it and went from there. So nothing magical there. It's just -- >> Well, it worked really well. And Danna, brace yourself for more questions. Get your browser back up because you're going to need it. Just a few more thoughts on what we notice in your thinking and search process again on the topic of coming up with search terms because of course that's the biggest part of searching, right, and effectively and that is to mine that item record for terms because again, those are controlled vocabularies, to use library speak. They're catalogue terms not necessarily natural language terms. And so if you're looking for buckets of similar items, that's really helpful. And Danna, the last question I had for you and then we'll jump off to the questions that are in the chat -- Michelle, I'm going to interrupt myself because I see Michelle has to jump off and wants to know how to register for next Wednesday's webinar and Mike has put that in there. Thank you. Danna, my question was, can you say more about your thinking when you're deciding between searching and chronicling America and searching for the newspapers that turn up in a search of loc.gov. And that's my last question. So I'm going to say again thank you to everybody and mute myself. Kathy has been collecting the questions in the chat as we go. >> Chronicling America is not searchable through the library's main page which is frustrating to me. Supposedly that is going to change within the next year or so. And I'm sure that the library will let everybody know when that happens. One of the reasons I don't choose newspapers and periodicals is because in most cases there are thousands of them. But what I will do is if I'm scrolling through and I see that something matches three pages, for example this is the "The Washington Times" from November 20, 1911, which would be interesting, and I'm just going to click on it. Whoops, sorry. Something's at my window and I have a dog that is not happy about life. Choppy, shh. Sorry. You'll notice that below -- Hang on a second. Choppy, settle. Sorry. My security officer is in rare form at the moment, at a very bad time. But you'll notice the phrase "transcontinental railroad" is highlighted in red and then you can go into the newspaper page. So I tend to focus on anything where it gives me a number of pages if I'm going to go into the newspapers and that saves me a little bit of time and energy. But again, this is another time where I would probably use the left navigation and limit myself to 1850 to 1899 and then probably limit myself further to 1865 to 1869. And then I probably would change from relevant to date. And that way I would be getting articles that were much closer to the time of the Golden Stake. So I -- The newspapers that are online especially if you're looking for Japanese American Internment, there are a ton of newspapers from the internment camps that have been made available online and I encourage you to take a peek on that because that is an amazing collection of resources and -- >> Thank you Danna. We actually have a number of questions that we need to get to. So yes, I'm going to go ahead and ask you, I'm going to do it specifically to you, Cheryl or Stacie, depending on what you guys covered. And Danna, I'd like you to keep your web browser up, please, because sometimes we're going to need that to get to the answer. Very early in the program Elizabeth asked, does the Library of Congress staff conduct due diligence regarding copyright? I'm actually going to take that question and explain that all of the resources that are on the teachers' page are no known copyright restrictions. There are resources available at loc.gov on copyrights and in our professional development section under videos. There is a short video that talks about the thinking process US educators should be going through and examining copyright restrictions. So we'll make sure that we get that URL. So if you go to loc.gov/teachers, professional development and in videos, you should be able to get there. Is Danna still on? >> I am still on. >> Okay, can you actually show them where that is? Go to loc.gov/teachers. >> Okay, hang on one second. I'm sharing my screen but it -- There we go. >> It's up. Yes. >> Okay. >> Teachers. >> Yes. Hang on. >> And as she's bringing that up, Brianna asked a question. Is there a Facebook page or something for teachers to collaborate and discuss how these resources are used? There is not an official Facebook page. If there is one out there or if you want to create one, that would be great. We do have a network called Teaching with Primary Sources Network and I'm going to ask Mike to serve up the URL for the TPS network. This is a site hosted by one of our Teaching with Primary Sources Consortium partners and there are plenty of educators, 10,000 educators, that are on that site sharing resources, you know, around their educational plans. Lisa Kay [assumed spelling] had a question about she got a "requested item could not be found" message when clicking more here from Houdini and newspapers. So Danna, could you address why that may have happened? >> Why she might have -- Hang on. Dogs are leaving. That's right. It's possible that the link might've been broken for a second. So this was -- Welcome to the [inaudible] of my life. My apologies, ladies and gentleman. So this is the recommended topics. It may have been -- It may have been a tiny hiccup and it may have been that something is down. I will tell you they're in the process of changing over all of these to a new format and you saw a portion of the new format today. So there it is. >> Okay, that's great. And little inside scoop there around Houdini. There is another project that called By the People through the Library of Congress and the next six months there will be papers related to Houdini that will be released through that site. So stay tuned for more updates on some resources related to Houdini. There was a question. Yvonne actually had two questions. She asked about the primary source sets and asked about making a request for a set of materials. And Stacie pointed out the ask a Librarian and the teacher resources. So if you have some ideas, we suggest that you put those into that particular form. But Cheryl, specifically she had another question which is, can you describe the process you used to decide what sets the team creates. I'm wondering if you could address that, please. >> Happy to. Not that it's exactly a clear process. Yvonne, it's select from the topic that go into those sets is typically taking a hard look at what we hear from teachers about what their needs are and then looking at the library's collections to see what the collections will support. And then the other reality is just there's, you know, there are only so many hours in a workweek. So we're pretty selective about how fast we can turn those out. But really we do listen carefully. As Stacie said, we love input and we factor all of that in. >> I'll throw in one other thing. Occasionally I'll give you the example of the NAACP primary source set. There was a huge exhibit that was celebrating the centennial of the NAACP and we were asked to create a primary source set to supplement that. And so sometimes the library -- In addition to listening to teachers, alas we also have to listen to our bosses and if the boss says you will do a primary source set, sadly, the boss sometimes is right and we got to do a primary source set. So it depends but we really do try very hard to support our teacher audience. Kathy, are there other questions? >> Sorry. I didn't unmute my mike. I was just explaining that Angela sent a note in earlier talking about the maps from the World Digital Library and has served up the URL for World Digital Library for those who are interested in those resources. Along those same lines, Eleanor commented on the primary source set for veterans and there were several comments about the veterans related resources and through the Veterans History Project and I'm just going to serve up that URL as well so that you have it. I know we're three minutes past the hour and people have to get going but I do want to make sure that you do give us your feedback on the SurveyMonkey that if you want the certificate, it is not an automated process. I need you to send me your first name and last name in an email and we'll get those out to you within the week. And then I wanted to get to the last question. No, I have two more questions. Eleanor asks regarding terms, is there a thesaurus type reference for that sort of thing. And I believe she was asking that as you were going through and looking at transcontinental railroad. I think that you answered some of that and I'm going to drop down to the very last question that I have on this list. Heather asked about an online chat for ask a librarian. And I'm hopeful that you can bring that up. >> Okay, I can do -- I'll answer one question -- I'll answer both questions. Yes, there are thesauri but there are so many thesauri that I can't point you to one. And there are thesauri that our cataloguers use when they're cataloging, when they're doing analysis. So be aware it's there but I wouldn't put you through the pain of working through it. In terms of ask a librarian, there are two areas that do chat: digital collections, which is the research and reference services division, and the newspaper current periodicals. Right now I believe they both do chat from either 2:00 to 3:00 or 2:00 to 4:00 Monday through Friday Eastern time. If they can't answer a question immediately during chat, they will ask you to let them refer it to the email reference and they'll respond to you as soon as they can. I know that there are plans afoot to extend the chat hours but they probably won't start until I'm assuming July or August when we're going to change the ask a librarian form a little bit to make it a little easier to use. >> Terrific. Thank you Danna. There was another question that came in about genealogy and I sent out the link to the reading room and somebody highlighted the resources for the ask a librarian. I'm going to ask Cheryl if there's anything that came in while I was going through the Q&A that we should address before we sign off. >> I haven't seen anything that you haven't already caught. >> Terrific. >> Thanks everybody for a really amazing conversation. >> Yes, so and well done to our presenters. Danna, Cheryl, and Stacie, thank you so much. Mike, thanks for pitching in there and feeding URLs out. These events work well because of your active participation and so we want to thank you to the participants for coming. As it's been mentioned, we are having webinars every Wednesday this summer and next week we're doing a session on [inaudible] books and primary sources and that will be hosted by our former teacher in residence Tom Bober, an elementary school librarian and real thought leader on using primary sources with students of all ages. So we do hope that you will join us for that. I'm going to ask Mike to put that URL in because I can't talk and [inaudible] at the same time. So again, thank you so much for joining us. I hope that you will join us for all of our Wednesday sessions this summer but definitely tune in next week for the primary sources and picture books. It's going to be a great hour just like this one was. So Danna, Cheryl, Stacie, any parting thoughts? >> Save the chat. >> Thank you. >> Yes, save the chat. And also join us for office hours on Tuesday same time. This coming week is going to be super cool with the curator for cartoons, Sara Duke talking about political cartoons of the 20th century. >> Just thanks everyone again for such a terrific conversation. >> Alright, well thank you all and we hope to see you next Wednesday.