>> Hello, everyone. I'm Corina Black [phonetic], and I work in the Learning and Innovation Office at the Library of Congress. And welcome to today's online office hours for the Library of Congress. We will be exploring STEM resources in the Manuscript Division, the Manuscript Collection. This event will be recorded. And any questions or other participant contributions may be made publicly available as part of the library's archives. We're really glad that you can join us today, whether that's live or by recording. And if this is your first time joining us, welcome. And if you've been with us before, welcome back. These office hours, those of you, if it's your first time, these are meant to be short informal sessions. We're going to get started with a 20 minute presentation followed by Q&A and conversation, anything that comes up as our presenters are speaking. And you'll have an opportunity to talk with each other and our presenters via the chat. So, let's get started with the chat. Michelle, if you can go to the next slide. I would love it if those of you who are here with us today could just tell us your name, where you're joining us from, and the grade level and subjects that you teach, if you're teachers. So, it's just great to know who is here and just be thinking about the kinds of questions that you may have for our presenters. So, as I said, today's episode is focused on STEM resources from the Manuscript Division of the Library of Congress. And we're joined today by Michelle Krowl and Josh Levy. They are both specialists and historians from the Manuscript Division. If you have questions or comments for them, or for our team, please feel free to post them in the chat box. We'll be monitoring that for the duration of the session. We'll also be posting links there as Michelle and Josh are speaking. And we can answer any questions or concerns that come up and pose them to our presenters during Q&A. So, now I'm happy to pass things over to our presenters, Michelle and Josh. >> All right, well, welcome to the Manuscript Division's participation in the teaching of primary sources office hours. And so we've got STEM primary resources in the Manuscript Division. And with the little tag line, expect the unexpected. And we hope that we can introduce you today to some things that you might not have anticipated would be good for STEM learning. So, our aim today is to introduce you to those STEM resources in the Manuscript Division, but also some ways that ensure primary source documents and introduce students not only relevant, to not only relevant STEM concepts, but also how those lessons can incorporate history and historical context at the same time. And today's PowerPoint and the handout of a selection of primary resource materials that lend themselves to STEM curricula will be available in PDF format on the teacher's page. So, don't worry if you miss anything as we go through the presentation. So, there are many Manuscript Division collections in which you would expect to find STEM related primary resources. And we've just listed a few of those here on this introductory slide, but they include the papers of Alexander Graham Bell, Orville and Wilbur Wright, Samuel F.B. Morse, a lot of kind of familiar names that where you would think to find some STEM related materials. But had you ever considered looking at the papers of George Washington or Thomas Jefferson or Civil War mapmaker Jedediah Hotchkiss or the Olmsted Associates who are landscape architects, or even the American Colony in Jerusalem? All of these materials can lend themselves to STEM related education. And these all will be in that handout I referenced a little bit earlier. So, let's take a closer look at three documents in the Manuscript Division that might be incorporated into STEM lessons in unexpected ways, or in collections or from collections that you wouldn't anticipate. So, first we'll start with penny farthing bicycles in the Charles Wellington Reed Papers. Charles Wellington Reed was a Civil War soldier and an artist. And most of his collection is comprised of Civil War related sketches. But after the war, he became an avid bicyclist, which may be why there's a couple of sketches of these high wheeled penny farthing bicycles among his many Civil War sketches. But then the question becomes, how are these STEM related resources? Well, it depends on the kind of questions that you ask of these, of these sketches. So, you might talk to the students about what are the physics involved in such a bicycle? What is the advantage of having a large wheel in the front and a small one in the back? And with that one, you can look at the bicycle or the large wheel in terms of how much faster and farther that you can go with fewer revolutions. How does the rider even get on a bicycle like this? You might ask what kind of challenges someone would encounter in riding it. What happens if you encounter an obstruction, or all sorts of things about getting on it, how you ride it, the physics involved, if you have to stop quickly. In looking at some research, this may be where we get the phrase you take a header, because if you have to stop quickly on the penny farthing bicycle because you're, because of the center of gravity, you tend to be pitched forward over the handlebars, and literally you kind of take a header when you fall on your head. The students might want to calculate how fast a penny farthing can do, ask questions about how do you stop it, was it prone to crashing as the sketches down here would suggest? You can also get into issues of design and engineering. So, if you were a woman in a long skirt from the 1870s and 80s when these bicycles were popular, could you ride a penny farthing safely? So, are fashion and engineering compatible in this kind of bicycle design? And here we actually have a guide from newspaper, the chronicling American newspaper site about early bicycle fashion. So, that's another way that you can get into this particular subject. And then you might want to talk to the students about what ways the technologies a bicycle today are different than the Penny farthings, and when did those start to occur? And just as an aside, they're called penny farthing bicycles because the penny and farthing were two types of British coins, one being the larger, so that's the penny, the farthing, farthing being the smaller, and those refer to the size of the wheels. So, they look like British coins. If you, if you get into the subject, you could also pair the penny farthing images in the Charles Wellington Reed papers with images from the prints and photographs division and from the chronicling American newspapers site to add to that lesson. So, if you're talking about how you actually mount a penny farthing bicycle based on height, the relative height of the bicycle, and the rider, you might be able to include one of these images. And so this shows a somewhat precarious mounting. But this would also help because this shows the little bar in the back where you put your foot while the bicycle starts to move before you pitch yourself forward onto the, onto the seat, and be able to ride. And there are YouTube videos of people actually mounting a penny farthing bicycle if you want to show your students the dynamics of that. Then, of course, towards the 1880s and 1890s, these safety bicycles are introduced. And they're gear driven by chains. They're less dangerous, obviously, because you're not falling as much. And it's a change of technology in terms of, because the pneumatic tubes on a penny farthing made for a smoother ride. Well, when you start getting more rubberized tires, then the safety bicycle is more comfortable. So, there are many ways that you could get into the subject of bicycles and bicycle technology that involve both the physics, the physical physics of the bicycle themselves and the riding surfaces, as well as when did they come into, why are they popular at various times, and who was riding them, and so that way you can get into a little bit more of the historical context of these particular items. So, I'm going to turn it over to my colleague Josh who's going to talk to you about a map in Marietta, Ohio. [ Inaudible ] >> Okay, so, the next slide, which is a map of Marietta, Ohio, this map may seem a little bit more obscure than Michelle's bicycle. It's a map that was drawn in 1837 by an Ohio based genealogist, a geologist named Charles Whittlesey. The map was later published in an 1848 book called Ancient Monuments of the Mississippi Valley, which was the first scientific study ever produced by the Smithsonian Institution, which already tells us that this was a marquis project at the time. And so what we have here is a map of Marietta's street grid, superimposed on two ancient Hopewell mound complexes with some more detailed sketches and measurements of each mound at the bottom left of the image. So, we normally think of maps as being straightforward reflections of reality. But as I used to like to tell my students, maps make arguments. And sometimes they reveal a lot more than the mapmaker intended. So, going back to the map of Marietta, what do we need to know about this map before we can start to interpret it and work with it? Well, we need to know that between roughly 80 BCE and between 300 and 400 CE, Hopewell people designed and built some of the largest indigenous urban architecture in the country across a vast area of the Midwest, that their mounds included artifacts from raw materials, they manufactured some items that came from long distances, and that those mounds served as ritual centers for small dispersed sedentary agricultural communities. We would want to know that the land ordinance of 1785 created a survey system for Ohio and the rest of what they called the Northwest Territory at the time. We would need to know that after 1785, land surveyors began to fan out across that Northwest Territory, which covered more than 260,000 square miles. And we might want to know about the tools that they used. They used portable clocks paired with magnetic compasses in order to determine the solar noon, to calculate longitude, and then to record the angles that stars made as they passed that long attitude in order to determine latitude. They used chains called Gunter's chains, which are made up of 100 different links. They measured 66 feet total, and they were divided into four 25 link sections. In order to measure and mark lines on the ground, they used [inaudible] for measuring horizontal and vertical angles as the little scopes that surveyors look through. And we'd want to know that they used those tools to transform all of that vast land into uniform squares of property that fit neatly into a national grid. In theory, unless the topography prevented them from doing it, then in practice sometimes they did it anyway. And we'd want to know that this map was drawn at a time when there was both a heightened interest in the Hopewell people in the United States and a lingering sense of anxiety among many Americans that Western Europe had a historical and cultural heritage United States might not ever measure up to. So, in Marietta, which the Ohio company flattened out in 1788, the surveyors had the same guidelines as other surveyors did. But they didn't quite transform Marietta into a grid. In fact, they bent the rules a little bit. One of the company surveyors wrote at the time, quote, the situation of the city flat is the most delightful of any I ever saw. And those traces of ancient walls mound, et cetera, are truly surprising. Another one wrote, quote, the old ruins are a masterly piece of work of great extent. So, these don't really sound like people who were eager to jam all of the landscape of Marietta into an artificial national grid. So, Michelle, can you go to the next slide? Okay, so, as the 1837 map shows, and as we can see a little bit more clearly in the Google version, it was a street grid that was changed to accommodate Marietta's mound. And not the mounds themselves. The mounds were built into public squares, even into a cemetery, and the mounds were given Latin names. You can see them just a little bit in that image on the bottom right. So, at this point, we might ask our students to speculate. Why? Why are these grids adapted into the mounds? Why are these streets given Latin names? And we might show them some other images. Michelle, can you go to the next slide? These images are also from the Library of Congress, and they might offer some clues. They might help students to imagine these mounds as the surveyors might have seen them. So, and one more slide, Michelle. What questions can this map help us answer? Well, we can think about the intersection of indigenous and settler technologies. So, on the one hand, there's the vast river base transportation system that enabled Hopewell people to build a trade network across the entire Midwest. And on the other hand, there are the surveyor's tools that helped settlers to map out hundreds of thousands of square miles of land. We can use this map to calculate the scale of Marietta's mounds as they were in 1837, and to determine the percentage of those mounds that have been lost to the town's various development projects, and also to erosion. We can talk about the land surveying instruments that the Ohio company had available to them in 1788, the measurements and calculations that they had to make, and how those differ from the tools that land surveyors use today, sometimes quite radically, sometimes they're really not that different. And we can use the map to speculate about the final two questions that I put on the list here, which I'll just offer my answers to, because [inaudible] a little bit obscure. They're not necessarily obvious. So, why the Latin names? Because the 18th and 19th century Americans who fell in love with these mounds, they saw them as their country's version of Ancient Roman ruins. The mounds represented the heritage of a great lost civilization which they wanted to claim for themselves. Why were they celebrating the mounds in the midst of the Indian wars which in Ohio were particularly violent? Because claiming the mounds built by Indians could be a way for settlers to claim possession over America's land from Indians. And what did the mounds tell Ohioans about what it meant to be an Ohioan? As the state's population grew, claiming local expertise over these mounds, which were becoming this critical imagined part of America's cultural heritage became a way to defend the State of Ohio and its colleges and intellectual institutions against east coast elites. And it also became a not always effective way to try to shame other Ohioans who were damaging the mounds in different ways, building things on them, and so forth. So, Michelle? >> All right, so, for most people, it would be logical to look in the Alexander Graham Bell papers for documentation of Bell's experiments with the telephone, such as his 1875, 1876 scientific notebook, which is in the subject series in the Alexander Graham Bell family papers. And this is a view of that, that first successful experiment with the telephone, which he recorded in his notebook on March 10th, 1876, recording that he said through the telephone Mr. Watson, come here, I want to see you. To my delight, he came and declared that he had heard and understood what I had said. So, again, people would definitely look at the Bell papers for the telephone. But did you know that Bell's scientific notebooks available online also document his extensive experimentation with propulsion and flight? Particularly the 1891 to 1893 laboratory notebook is very rich with experimentation and data. And you can see the link to it right there. And these are just a few images from that particular, that particular notebook. And I always like to show people this particular image up here, because they remind me so much of some of the drone technology that's being developed now of using various, you know, mechanisms of flight and propulsion to carry weight from place to place. The one down on the lower right hand side is more, again, with propulsion. But in this instance, as actually a Bell descendent explained to me, that they decided to put sulfuric acid in these and light them on fire and see what happened. And what you can see happened is the thing exploded, and the two guys are hiding behind the trees, one of which it taking data on this. But you can also look at just single pages and get and ask questions that would be very useful for, for some lesson plans. So, on this page, you can see that Alexander Graham Bell is looking to nature to solve some of his questions and mysteries of flight by examining bird wings. And here you can see in his notebook that he says, we killed a turkey today, use turkey wings. So, that's what's being depicted here is the, is Bell's use of actual turkey wings to try to understand how, how birds fly and how flight works. So, on just this particular page, you could ask, how did the natural world influence Bell in his pursuit of flight? Well, it's right here. He's using turkeys and other birds as a way to understand how flight works. And you can ask the students what type of data did Bell record based on his observations? And he's got a lot of different data points here of how the left and the right wings are working. But we have other aviation collections online as well. So, for example, the Orville and Wilbur Wright papers, or they could, the students could do some investigation on their own and look to see whether other early aviators were similarly inspired by nature. And I think that you'll find that the answer is yes, throughout time, that people's terrestrial beings have always looked to the skies to understand how flight is possible. Then you could also take that a little further and ask, does nature continue to inspire invention? So, could the students look at examples of how you can look to nature to find ways of solving problems or look for various sort of scientific observations? Another aspect to this, and it's not as visible on this page, but it's very visible in other of those notebooks, is particularly if they're looking for pages before and after this one, is ask them why they think Bell initialed and dated many of the entries in his notebook. And there can be various answers to this question in terms of knowing what day you had data on and just keeping track of it for yourself. But one reason, a hint for one of the reasons, is patent, because as Bell discovered, that you really needed to have your scientific inquiry and progress noted in case you were involved in a patent lawsuit later on, which he definitely was with the telephone. So, that's another thing that students can pay attention to with various scientific data and notes in the various collections is that often they're signed and dated as a way of being able to prove where they were in the scientific process at various times so that they can prove whether they were in advance of someone else in terms of their inquiry. Another thing that I like to point out with the Bell notebooks is science is messy. And it's okay. His notebooks are very, are very messy. And this page is fairly clean by Bell's standards. But when you look through other ones, things are dropped on it, and he's crossing things out, and you can kind of see the fever of experimentation in his books. So, it's okay to be messy. And students can do that as well. It's just important to be cleaner with your, with your documentation if you're turning in a patent application or you're turning in a final assignment, but the process can be messy. I also want to note that not all of Alexander Graham Bell's scientific and laboratory notebooks are currently available online. And because of the nature of the collection, they are all, they're not all in one place in the collection as well. So, if you're interested in the scientific notebooks, you can keyword search the word notebook in the this collection bar in the search mechanism. And when you're working with manuscript division collections, and particularly, you're going to want to note that this collection, because if you get too far into looking at materials, this often turns into, just by default, everything. And so if you're sort of deep in the process and you want to search something else, if you don't pay attention that you're not on everything, it will search everything on the Library of Congress website. So, you're going to get a lot of, a lot of false results for what you're looking for. But if you see this collection, that means that word will just be searched in that particular collection. And so if you want to see Alexander Graham Bell notebooks in this collection, that's the way to do it. And you get several different ones to choose from. And so you can see a full range of the kind of things that he was working on that may be applicable for lesson plans with your students. So, let's just kind of finish off this talk with how do you find STEM materials in the Manuscript Division? Well, Manuscript Division collections are not usually described as the level of individual items the way a photograph or a map often is. So, if you're looking for photos and maps, often you can just put in a keyword search on the website, and individual things will come up that are there to catalog to that level. Our collections tend to be much broader. So, you may be searching at the level of finding the metadata, and it's going to be correspondence or notebooks or diaries or something along those lines. It's not necessarily going to be every single item in a collection can be searched to that level. So, this is where sometimes you have to put a little bit of, you have to put the search and research. You can also search the online catalog for relevant names and subjects. So, if you put in, so, for example, if you go to the online catalog and you put in the subject term, or the keyword search for inventor, then you'll get a lot of things that come up, because inventors in the catalog record. But if you sort the results by date, oldest to newest, often manuscript material will then come to the top. So, if you look for the icon for manuscript or mixed format, that often will reflect manuscript division material. And that catalog record will provide links to any online presentations that might be available, the online collection finding aid, and it usually includes a good collection summary, which may help you determine whether that collection is relevant to your project. You can also look at a list of online manuscript division pointing aids for names and organizations that look promising for you. Now, unfortunately, only a very small percentage of manuscript materials are currently available online. So, you may be able to find the finding aid for the collection, but not be able to access it off site. You can also browse digital collections on the Library of Congress website by clicking on, clicking on digital collections from the homepage, and then clicking on Manuscript Division in the left navigation bar, that's a facet that we'll drill down just two collections for the Manuscript Division, and then you'll be able to see what's available to you off site. Additionally, you may also want to browse the words and deeds in American history presentation, and it's a grouping of a variety of Manuscript Division materials from all sorts of time periods and subject matter and people, but it gives you a larger sense of about 100 years' worth of Manuscript Division offerings. But within that, there are many individual items that may be useful for you in terms of STEM material, including Alexander Graham Bell's first sketch of the telephone. You can also look at current and past exhibits that have representation online. And we've given you the link there as well. So, sometimes manuscript material is included in those exhibits, and those items may not be available anywhere else online because they were, they were scanned maybe just a page or two or an image that they were scanned specifically for that, that exhibition. So, for example, I think it's with American treasures, you can see the Sikorsky, Igor Sikorsky notebook, showing the design for a helicopter. The Sikorsky papers are not available online, but that particular image is. And then sometimes a little serendipity is involved in coming across STEM materials and Manuscript Division collections where you wouldn't expect them. Again, finding penny farthings in a collection that's primarily Civil War correspondence and images, whereas George Washington's papers, you might not necessarily think of that as a STEM related collection, but he has, we have notebooks when he was studying geometry problems as a student. He was a surveyor for a time. So, as Josh was indicating with the map of Marietta, you may be able to find some things related to surveying. Another thing about George Washington is that, like many of his time, he was incredibly interested in the weather. And many of his diaries will contain reports about the weather. And because, for those people who didn't have air conditioning and all of the things that we have now that shield us a little bit more from the weather, he is a farmer, and he needs to know what the weather is, and keeps a good log of that. So, that could also be an exercise where you look at, to see where George Washington was when he was keeping weather reports. And check what the weather is today in those, in those, those same places. And then be able to speculate maybe about the differences or the commonalities between the two. So, with a little research, and some imagination, there's all sorts of STEM related materials in the Manuscript Division just waiting for you to explore. So, I'm going to go ahead and stop sharing oh, the other, I almost forgot, and at the very end of both the PowerPoint that you'll see online and here, we've got e mail addresses for Josh, for me, for the Manuscript Division generally, so you can always e mail the Manuscript Division if you have a question about collections of any sort. You can visit us on the Manuscript Division homepage, which has additional information on the Manuscript Division, links to online collections, links to other guides that we have available. And you can put in an ask a librarian question as well. So, there are multiple ways of getting ahold of us, and we're always happy to help. So, I'll go ahead and stop sharing that for, for, well, let me just go ahead and keep that up. And if Calina [phonetic] and Janna [phonetic] want to let us know if people have questions, happy to, happy to answer. [ Inaudible ] Can you all hear me? I hope there's great. If you could just turn down your volume a little bit or mute yourself, just so we don't get that echo. There we go. Thanks so much, Michelle, and Josh, for that. That was just really interesting how you talked about kind of the interdisciplinary nature of the work. And we had quite a few questions and comments that I'm going to just make sure I didn't miss anything, so I'll just, just, just see what I, what I find. Anyone who asked a question that I missed, please repose it. So, I think Peter was referring to one of the penny farthing drawings that you showed earlier. So, if you could go back to those sketches, I think he was just brainstorming a possible question for students, and had he asked, how fast does the back wheel turn in relation to the front wheel? So, this is another question for, for students to consider. And then on that same drawing, Gay asked, are those sketches of helmet drawings or helmet designs at the bottom? >> You know, it's a, it's a good question, because most of the penny farthing research that you don't see a lot of people wearing helmets, but it probably could be, because obviously this, this guy's taken a tumble, or alternatively if there's, if there's sketches that Reed was intending to do for something else, they might be prototype sketches instead. But, so you do see this individual here, hopefully you can see my cursor, that he is wearing a hat that looks somewhat like a helmet. So, they're either, they're either normal hats or helmets, because obviously this sort of dandy over here is not wearing anything that resembles a helmet. And part of it is that whether they were, whether they necessarily had the fabrication to do, you know, helmets that would actually help, because when you do see some of the accidents with penny farthings, I mean, because of your center of gravity being so high, and you're rights over, that when you stop, that you literally get pitched over. And so you've got quite a ways to fall. And that could also be something that students would be able to calculate as well, that if you're going a certain, a certain speed, and you stop immediately, what are the physics of going over? Another thing that I came across in the research is that sometimes when the riders were going at quite a speed, because, you know, they were racing them, and you could go downhill and pick up some speed, but if you had any anxiety, that you'd have to stop immediately and be pitched forward, you might actually put your legs around the handlebars in such a way that it might kind of instead of pitching you on your head, you might fall a different direction. Didn't seem to work very well. But, again, that's where these are kind of nice drawings in that it gives the student some indication of not only what it looks like when you're just pedaling along, but also what some of the pitfalls are with these particular transportation devices. >> Very interesting. Peter just asked the question, to say another question to students is, why is the front wheel so big? [ Inaudible ] So, that's very true. Sara asked, this is in reference to one of your later slides, you mentioned the sort of differences between how manuscripts catalogs their collections compared to the photographs in map divisions. And so she wondered why that was. I think you're on mute. >> Okay, there we go. That, the reason why is that we present things at a collection level. And so the way that we tend to process collections, whereas if you're processing say a map or a photograph, it might be part of another collection, but the way it tends to appear online is an individual item. The way that the Manuscript Division processes our papers is, I mean, because we can have very large collections, and they tend to be grouped by, by what makes sense in terms of the organization, so it's often you have a whole run of diaries or a whole run of correspondence or financial papers or what have you. And depending when we did, so you're going to get those groupings together that just the labor to catalog everything individually would, would be, it's just not sustainable for us at the, at the volume that we're dealing with. So, you know, we can have collections that are one item and one folder all the way up to millions of items in, you know, hundreds of boxes. And so that level of cataloging and detailed description just isn't sustainable for us. Also, when you're looking at things online, that's where finding aids can be very, very helpful in terms of figuring out how the collection is organized, what might be in it, always look at the scope and content note of a finding aid, because that is your executive summary as to what's in the collection. And sometimes what's not in the collection as well. But when we get some of the earlier online collections, like Bell, and, and Morris and some of those, they were done more selections as part of the legacy websites. When you get into more of our more recently digitized collections, we're really pulling the metadata from the finding aid to groups of materials. So, for example, if you get to some of the presidential papers, you may be dealing with reels of microfilm. And so, again, you might be having hundreds of images within one reel of microfilm. So, it makes it a little bit more challenging to find individual subjects or items very quickly. But also with some of the online materials, then if you can put it into a grid view or something along those lines, it may be easier for you to check through. But that's basically, it's just that we're dealing with such a volume of material that things get organized by those archival principles. >> Great. Well, I was just interested in your, you mentioned in one of your later slides, just the idea that serendipity is sort of part of I guess the research process, or I guess the discovery process. And so I was curious, for both of you, for both you, Michelle, and Josh, any sort of moments of serendipity, kind of exploring the collections and kind of what the most surprising stories or sources that you found that have really piqued your interest? Josh, do you want to go ahead and take this one? And also maybe you'll need to explain to people how long you've been at the library. >> Yeah, and this is difficult for me to answer, because I've been working at the library for two weeks. So, I have not explored the collections in person at all really, because [inaudible]. But if Michelle wants to answer, I'll think about a moment of serendipity in my prior research that maybe would be helpful as well. >> I think with, I mean, gosh, there's often so much serendipity because when we're working with collections, either online or in their physical, their physical state, sometimes, and this isn't just for STEM related research, it's for, you know, any research, is that you may go to a collection for one thing, and then while you're looking for that one thing, you stumble across something else. And but I was just, actually I was just telling Josh the other day that, you know, we had a wonderful kind of moment of serendipity because research, because our reference staff talks to our researchers. Sometimes the reference staff know what we're interested in. So, one of the notebooks in the Bell papers that I wish had been digitized earlier, is, is one from the, is from 1881, where Alexander Graham Bell was actually trying to perfect a metal detection device that would allow him to try to help find the bullet in President Garfield's body after he had been shot at the train station in Washington, D.C. in July of 1881. And, you know, it's got great material. He's trying to help save the president's life, and he's doing all this, but in a moment of serendipity, because some of my colleagues are aware that I'm interested in the Garfield assassination, because the Garfield papers are under my purview, actually one of the fellows that was working at the library happened to be in a collection, the Hubbard family, which is Bell's in laws, and she came across the file related to Alexander Graham Bell that had some correspondence that appeared to be about the Garfield assassination. So, she took it up and showed one of my colleagues. And because he knew I was interested in it, he mentioned it to me. And while making a long story short, the paper looked familiar to me because I had seen something very similar in the Bell papers. And as we discovered, it turned out that this one magnificent 16 page letter that Alexander Graham Bell had written to his wife about trying to experiment with the induction balance machine on Garfield, this 16 page letter had been separated into different parts of two different collections prior to them ever coming to the Library of Congress. So, half of the letter was in, I think it was in the correspondence in Bell. The sketch that goes along with it ended up in the subject files for the induction balance machine. And the other half of this paper ended up in the Hubbard family papers. And it was just complete serendipity that people talk to one another, so we were able to make scans of the complete document and place it with those, in those three separate locations so that if anybody else came across them, so we're preserving the provenance of the material, but we're allowing researchers to now, this is the full context. And so for me, what was a wonderful letter, even though we only had every other page in the Bell family papers, became an even more extraordinary letter when you got the full force of it. So, you know, so sometimes that serendipity, you know, maybe always look at the miscellany, because that's where interesting things are that are hard to categorize any other way. So, again, sometimes it's, you're just in one place, and you find something wonderful. >> I forgot to mention that Leanne, Leann mentioned the same thing. She said, is it true that one should never, oh, what did she say, one should never avoid looking at files labeled? Yeah, they've got some miscellaneous, so great tip. Sorry, Josh, what were you saying? >> Yeah, I, I was thinking about some serendipity that, that I had in my prior research life. My Ph.D. dissertation was about an island in Micronesia called Pohnpei. And it was a history of the U.S. presence there, but also the Japanese and German and Spanish presence. And I had a research problem while I was working on this project in Hawaii in the archives, which was how to get a handle on the kind of lived experience for islanders and Japanese settlers during the Japanese period on this island. The Japanese government had produced thousands and thousands of pages of anonymous bureaucratic research reports that all had the same kinds of categories. And you could read as many of them as you wanted, and you would never find out simple things, like, you know, what's the name of the, you know, the person that owns this shop in town, or what's it like on a holiday? What do people do during the week? What do they do during the weekend? Where do they like to buy food? And I was reading through some issues of a magazine that was produced in, in the Japanese territory with my wife, who is a native Japanese speaker, and realized that scattered in through this publication were little poems and jokes and cartoons that made fun of sort of the day to day life of Japanese settlers in these islands, and that if I could contextualize the jokes and the cartoons and the poems and the little stories within all the other things that I already knew, suddenly I could reveal kind of this whole world that had been absent for me. And so I don't, I didn't anticipate using jokes as evidence for my dissertation, but it ended up opening up, opening up a lot of doors. So, a point that I wasn't expected to look. And material that I wasn't expecting to find there. But it really brings the material to life in the final version. >> That's interesting. So, can you say a little bit more, Josh, about, so you mentioned you're [inaudible] and your background prior to coming to the library too. So, also, welcome. But can you just say a little bit about I guess your [inaudible] what the scope of your work will be now? >> Sure. So, I am the new specialist in the history of science and technology. And I will be responsible for working with about 700 science and technology collections that we have. And we'll be looking for various ways to research into those collections, promote them, do outreach that's related to the collections, and find ways to help students and classes engage. So, some of the things that I've been thinking about are I have some interest in transportation history and the history of atomic warfare. We have a wonderful collection by people who are involved in the Manhattan project. At this point, I am just kind of getting a handle on what the collections and the resources we have here, because they are incredible. But I anticipate doing various small research projects, and then continuing to pursue work that I've done in kind of food history and history of the automobile. >> Well, we're grateful to be working with you today, and look forward to working with you more and collaborating. And Michelle, can you just say a little bit about your work and I guess your [inaudible] to the library? And I'll have another question for you from Mike after you've done that. >> Okay, well, as Josh was saying, our, our roles have somewhat fundamental, you know, core, core tasks, like outreach and helping researchers and things. With, with a circle specialist, if you ask us what a typical day is for us, we can't really answer because every day is so different that for me I've been working on a lot of digitization the last couple of years, because we're getting quite a few of our Civil War and presidential papers online. So, digitization and trying to help promote those has been a key part. We deal also with acquisitions, so we're on the lookout for collections or materials that we can either complement what we already have or fill some gaps. So, we're recommending officers for acquisitions. We also, depending on the time and what's going on, we can be curators of exhibits. So, when I first started in 2010, I was one of the three curators for a major Civil War exhibit that we put on for about a little over a year at the library. You know, we also work with researchers, we work with groups that are interested in topics that come across our paths, you know, but it's also a job where you get to learn something new every day. And as your colleague, Leanne knows, there was, there was quite a few years there where before we were fortunate enough to get Josh onboard, we didn't have a science specialist, so many of us were filling in those gaps as needed. And so for various reasons, I got to know some of the aviation collections. And, you know, Leanne's husband who teaches down at the flight school, he brought a group of flight trainers to the library, and so I did a show and tell with them, and it was wonderful because I got to learn some of their [inaudible] collections and they were also explaining to me about some of the topics. So, you know, you never know every day what's going to, what's going to come across your radar and what you're going to learn. And often that's very driven by questions we get from the outside, from researchers. But also things that, that we find as we come across materials as well. So, but, yeah, for me to tell you how I got to the library, it's longer than anybody has time, so, it was circuitous, but I'm delighted to be here. So, okay, so, what was the question? >> Yeah, so, actually, Mike had a question along those lines. And he asked if you had a favorite STEM resource related to the Civil War. >> Yeah, and fortunately I did see that one pop up, so I had a moment to think about that. You know, obviously there's, there's a lot of potential STEM materials in the Civil War, because you're dealing with ammunitions and fortifications, and, you know, all sorts of things that can be used for that cipher codes, for example, if you want to get into some cryptology. But the one that came to mind for me is a collection which is an assembly of various aviation materials that an aeronautics and organization, the name of which I never get right, so I won't even try it, but it's a variety of aviation materials that included things from Charles Lindbergh and other places. And in that collection is a small amount of material relating to Thaddeus Lowe, who was a balloonist during the Civil War, and on the Union side. And several early generals in the war were very supportive of creating a Balloon Corps. And so included in the collection is not only correspondence about the Balloon Corp, and, you know, calling themselves an aeronaut and all of that, but there are a couple of notebooks that when I think, I think they were in, inside the balloon basket with him as it was rising over, you know, the territory where the Union Army was operating. And so the Civil War ended up really becoming one of the first wars that was able to use aerial reconnaissance to direct battles and have an idea of where the enemy lines were. And so there are these little notebooks where Will is obviously scribbling things that might be telegraphed down to the ground about what he's seeing while he's up in the air about where, where enemy troops are, if they've moved, or, you know, things like that. And so for me that was a very cool thing. And there's a couple of maps where, you know, they were, I think there were [inaudible] maps that where they were able to use that balloon technology to be able to make maps that were then helping, helping direct the war. So, that's the one that comes to mind for me. But, again, almost everywhere you look, you're going to be able to find something STEM related. And one thing that I wanted to mention, and it was a word that Josh brought up, that when you're dealing with STEM materials that may not come to mind is where I think our materials lend an added element that you might not expect is that these, these lessons can be made stories. And for us, you know, I'm, I often see when we're doing show and tells or displays, you know, particularly when we're dealing with the public, that may not have, you know, an understanding of the material that we're already looking at, that when you can put it in the sense of the story, it's telling a story, but you can still get those essential points about it. So, that's one thing where when I'm doing things with the Garfield affixes sass in a case, it's not only the political story of this disgruntled officer seeker, you know, shooting the president, but it's also a very medical and scientific story because of the bill of connections and because of the medical care that Garfield did or didn't get. And people are always fascinated by that the same way I was when I first came across that. So, with these, you can weave very concrete discussions about science and technology and mathematics into kind of a story that may, that may appeal to students who, particularly who aren't already, you know, very interested, very, I don't want to say interested in the subject, but, you know, may not have the same natural affinity for it that others do. So, you know, if you think of that sense of story, that's where I think what Josh said about the Marietta map is so powerful is that it's a much larger story that can be incorporated into it so many different aspects of those STEM and history and, and understanding. >> Yes, totally. I didn't think of that [inaudible]. I think you're totally right. I mean, the idea of stories to provide context can also, you know, to have us realize that those few things that actually happen, and someone, someone mentioned, you know, that the scientists don't work in a vacuum. Well, that [inaudible] didn't necessarily happen in a vacuum, and that, that were at play. Josh, did you want to add something? Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. >> No, no, I was, I was just thinking about something I used to tell my students, which is a quote from the First Nations comedian author Thomas King, which is, "the truth about stories is that's all we are." So, a refrain that is repeated several times on his, in his, one of his short stories. And so, you know, the stories that we tell about ourselves, the stories we tell about other people, they're not just stories. Right? Stories constitute who we are and how we're remembered. So, they are not only approachable for students, for teaching, because we use stories to relate to one another, but they are powerful ways to, to frame materials, and to frame our approach to historical figures. >> Yeah, definitely, yeah, that's a great reminder, and also just a great, great quote, great nugget. Well, I don't see any other questions [inaudible] comments, so hopefully Michelle and Josh will both have a chance to review the, the chat after the fact. But thank you so much for participating with us today, and for answering our questions, and for shedding light on materials that, you know, definitely new to me, many of them, so I'm excited to explore, and I hope that folks got the links that we posted in the chat box, as well as the ask a librarian links if you have other questions. I'm not sure if it was posted here, but Michelle wrote a blog post for our teaching with the library [inaudible] blog, with highlighting resources from the Manuscript Division. That could be of use to some classrooms. So, we'll post that for you to take a look at. If there are no other questions, I will end the session and just ask everyone to join us next week. We'll be joined by specialists from the Preservation, Research, and Testing Division at the library. We'll be talking about preservation efforts the library is undertaking, and more about their work. So, I hope that you can join us, and thank you so much, again, Michelle and Josh. >> It was our pleasure for being here, and please feel free to get in touch with the Manuscript Division if you have any other questions. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Great. Well, take care, everyone, and we'll talk to you soon.