>> Hello everyone. My name is Kathy McGuigan from the Library of Congress. And I am so thrilled that you are here with us this afternoon. Welcome to today's episode of Online Office Hours from the Library of Congress. Today, our focus is on the Jefferson Building at the Library of Congress. And we're glad you're joining us live or even if you're watching this after the fact on the recording. So, these informal sessions are short. They'll be a 20-minute demonstration. And the sessions are being recorded. You'll have the opportunity to talk to each other and the presenters via chat. So, let's get started with using chat. If you will, tell us your name, where you're joining us from and what and whom you teach. So, as I mentioned earlier, today's episode is touring the Jefferson Building from home. And we'd like to welcome you to our workplace. We're opening the virtual doors to the Library of Congress. Join us for a tour of the iconic Jefferson Building and learn about how we use it as a primary source. Today's guide is Uhuru Flemming. She is mentioned as Lio [assumed spelling] in the, in the presenter area or the participant area. Uhuru Flemming is a colleague of ours from the Learning and Innovation Office. And she is joined by a special guest, Rachel Gordon, with the Informal Learning Office. In that role, Rachel develops and implements tours for schools, kids and families. Danna Bell, our Education Ask a Librarian is on the chat to answer questions and to serve the URL's from today's speaker. And we are fully staffed today. We also have Cheryl Lederle to play back up to all the backups that I just mentioned. So, without further delay, I will hand over the mic to our presenter, Uhuru. >> Good afternoon and welcome. I'm going to give you, as Kathy said, a highlights tour of, virtual tour of the Jefferson Building. So, I'll just get started. The Library of Congress was established by an Act of Congress in 1800 when President John Adams signed a Bill, which moved the seat of government from Philadelphia to the New Capital City of Washington. This legislation described a reference library for Congress only. And with $5,000 appropriated by the Legislation, it housed, it was housed in the new Capital. And that's where it stayed until 1814 when during the war of 1812. As we know, the British troops set fire to the Capital Building, burning the contents of this very small library. Within a month, President Thomas Jefferson, who was retired, offered up his personal library as a replacement. He had spent about 50 years collecting books. And Congress accepted his offer. And he was able to sell his collection to the library. Now, eventually, this small library became too small to hold the contents. The Copyright Act happened, which mandated that two copies of everything come to the library. And so, as I said, the space was just too small to hold the contents. And so, that's when there were talks about building a separate location for the library. And the separate location, which we know as the Thomas Jefferson Building, was completed in 1897. And there you see on the slide, the Great Hall, all of it in its glory. It was designed. What you see here was done by 50 American artists. And it was modeled after something that you see in Europe. It was to look grand. It's a time renaissance or [inaudible] art that you see here, which is evidenced by all the ornate marble, all the archways and the columns. The beautiful symmetry that you see here. We wanted it to look costly, in addition to it being, paying homage to education and knowledge and learning. We wanted this to look very costly, like we were keeping up with the Jones', so to speak. And I always like to say, if you've heard the term, if these walls could talk. Well, everything in this building here speaks. It talks. From the floor to this beautiful ceiling that you see here. It's as if we're in a room full of stories. And what stories are being told? What lessons are we learning? And so, as I'm giving you this online tour, just as I give the physical tour within the building, I like to walk around and, and talk about what these stories are telling us. And I'll begin with one of the grand staircases. As you can see, all of this beautiful marble. And I want to focus on, if you can see on the, the, the kind of top of the staircase, these small, chubby statues. These are called putti in Italian Renaissance art. And they're not here just to look cute. They each represent an occupation or way of life that happened in 1897. So, if you look at this first one down at the bottom, you'll see clues. You'll see clues on all of them. But with this very first one, you see a rake, you see a spade. And the occupation that this one has is a gardener. Now, the second one is a little tricky. I'll just give you the answer. He's an entomologist. And one of the individuals involved in the, the, the construction of the building, his relative, I believe, son was an entomologist. And so, that's why that's there. Then, if you look at the third one, you see kind of the cap. That's a student. And so, that again represents one of the occupations or way of life that was happening back in 1897. This right here is the commemorative arch. And we see on one side a young man. And we see an old man. And this, this statue on this arch is called the students. And it represents the pursuit of knowledge. Once you walk through these, this archway, it leads you to the original door towards the main reading room. And so, that's why we have this arch here representing the pursuit of knowledge. You have the young man on, on the left side, who is looking at a scroll. He's learning something. He's gaining knowledge. And then, on the opposite side, you have the old man. And he's not so much reading what's on his tablet. He's more so meditating. Thinking about what he's learned. He, he has knowledge. He has wisdom. Now, when you walk through that archway that I, that I talked about. Because remember, it's commemorative archway. You enter an area called the Evolution of the Book. It tells the story of the evolution of the book in six lunettes that are above. And it tells the story of the book in historical order. And it starts with the caveman. And this is called the Cairn. And so, you see primitive men, rather collecting stones. And perhaps, this tells the story of a dead comrade, or perhaps a birth. Then, the next lunette in order shows the storyteller in Africa, teaching through the oral tradition. The next lunette in order takes place. Here we are in Egypt, where you see a man on a scaffold. And he's carving or chipping away hieroglyphics in stone. Then, we move to the other side of this area where we see a Native American painting pictures. Telling a story through painted pictures on animal skin. In the next lunette, we see a monk, who is probably drawing illustrations on let's say a Bible. And so, now we see something that is written on a document. And then, the final one is Johannes Gutenberg with his print press. You see the master with the assistant proofing a doc, a page. And then, you see on the right, you see an apprentice who is, is moving the print. Now, Johannes Gutenberg was the first person to create a book basically using a print press using movable metal type. And here at the Library, one of our greatest treasures is the Gutenberg Bible. As I said, it's the first great book printed in Western Europe from movable metal type. And it really marked a turning point in the art of book making, communication and the dissemination of knowledge. And also, in the transition from the Middle Ages into the modern world. It was completed around 1455. Roughly 180 copies of the Gutenberg Bible was printed. And fewer than 50 survive today. And there are only, that we know of, three complete versions left on animal skin. And that is one of them here at the Library of Congress. And it's in a view case, which is about 11 feet tall. If you're walking, again, through past the Evolution of the Book area where the Gutenberg Bible is, you're now in the vestibule of the, the original entrance to the main reading room. And this is where you have more murals, halfmoon lunette murals. And they are above the Reading Room door. And they represent government. Good government and bad government. The mural that, that I'm showing you right now is the central mural. And it represents the abstract concept of the republic. Basically, in it's ideal state. And then, there are two lunettes to the right of it and two lunettes to the left of it, which depict the workings of government and the conditions that can result from good or bad administration. And this location of these murals reinforces the significance of the advancement of knowledge. And learning in a democracy and the role of government and creating and sustaining a great national library. So, this one, government, it shows a female figure. And in the background, there's an oak tree, which is emblematic of strength and stability. She's sitting on a marble bench. And the bench is supported by two antique voting earns placed between those guardian lions. She's holding a golden scepter. And also, a tablet inscribed with the words from Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, as you can see there. Government of the people, by the people, for the people. The individuals beside here. Those are the winged figures of genius. The one of the right is holding a bridle and the reigns of power. And the other one is holding a sword. And that represents justice. Or the authority of government. Now, we're delving into bad government. And this mural right here represents corrupt legislation. And here is the female figure. And she is of questionable virtue. And she's sitting on a throne, which is framed by cornucopias overflowing with coins, rather than fruit or grain. And as you can see, the flow of the coin is directed towards herself, rather than outward towards the people. She's holding a sliding scale in her hand. And, and on her right, you see that that scale, you know, there's the wealthy man basically bribing her with a bag of gold. At his feet, are more bags of gold. And you see that there is a ballot box that is spilled. And this is representing the corrupt control of the sources of power. And in his lap, there's the book of law, which he basically uses to his advantage. Then, if you look on the other side of her, you see a very simply dressed girl. And she represents labor. And she's carrying her empty staff and spindle. And she's basically being dismissed by this woman. And she is begging for her right to work. And the broken jar at her feet represents her, her savings that she's lost. And if you look behind her, you see the factories are smokeless and idle. And while the factories behind the wealthy man are booming. And they're very prosperous. This mural or lunette is called anarchy. And here, we see the failure of government. And she's raving over the ruins of civilization. She's holding a torch that's formed from the scroll of learning. There are serpents twisting around in her hair. She's trampling on the scroll. And basically, on all of the symbols of learning, religious, art and law. And then, under her feet, on the other side, you see, you know, the broken arch and you see a bomb, which also represents destruction. The man to our right, he's prying a brick from a building, which is contributing to the collapse of the civilization. And then, the woman on the other side, she is, she has a staff and she's basically prying civilization into the chasm. You see the millstone, the broken millstone and the mill wheel. And at that's showing. It is an uncultivated field. And it's showing the failure of industry and agriculture. And now, we are delving into good administration. And in this mural, there is a woman. And she's holding a book in her lap. And she's got a pair of scales evenly balanced in her hands. She's resting her hand upon a shield. And that shield is quartered to represent the even balance of parties and classes that should exist in a well-organized and well-ordered democracy. The frame of her chair forms an arch, which represents every stone performing an equal service. And that's symbolic of the equal part that we all should play in a democratic form of government. On the right, you see that [inaudible] is casting his vote in the voting ern. And he's carrying books, which shows that he has knowledge. He has made a well-educated decision on his vote. On the left, you see the young girl. And she's, she's winnowing wheat into the other voting ern, so that the good grains fall into the ern and the [inaudible] is basically scattered away by the wind. And finally, we see peace and prosperity. And here, we see the female figure against the background of an olive tree, which is the symbol of peace and fruitfulness and strength. She's holding two wreaths, which is a reward for excellence, and you see the two youths on her sides. The one on the left sits with a jar and he's decorating a piece of pottery. In the background, we see a Greek temple, which represents architecture. And we see the lyre in the foreground, which represents music. The youth on the other side, the right, represents agriculture. And you see that he's planting something. And it's suggesting, you know, the strong permanent government, on which the tree can grow. This right here is the Librarian's Room. It's the original office of the Librarian of Congress. And it's also in this section of the library. Now, it is open to a certain extent. There's an area that you can kind of step in and take a look at it. And it is now only used for ceremonial purposes. But Presidents and heads of states have, have all visited this room to look at some of our most treasured documents. This right here is Minerva. And it is a mosaic, believe it or not. I mean, if you can imagine all of the numbers, thousands of pieces of, of, of glass and stone compromised this majestic mosaic. It, it, it faces you as you are walking up towards the overlook of the Main Reading Room. Minerva is the Roman Goddess of [inaudible], of knowledge and wisdom. She also represents warfare. In this case, she's representing defensive warfare because she's got her, her, her spear downward. But she's holding it. So, she's ever vigilant. As you can see, her shield is on the ground. And her helmet is also on the ground. She's holding a scroll. And on this scroll, there are subjects of learning. And the statue that is to our right, with the wings, that's Nike representing achievement. If you look, it's over to our left, by her foot, you see an owl. And, as you know, that represents wisdom and the disastrous clouds are rolling back, while the sun rays of knowledge are coming forth. And now, we are in the main reading room. And as you can see, it is absolutely gorgeous. You see all of the beautiful marble. You see the columns. And you see somewhat of the dome that's up at the top there. And I have another view to show you. But just to give you an idea of the size, it's, it's eight. It's 100 feet wide by 160 feet tall. And this is where some people finally see some of the books. And it's our Reading Room for humanities, social sciences and I believe genealogy, as well. And you see all of the, the, the seats down at the bottom where researchers sit. Here's another view of the dome. And you see that at the top, there's a mural and it, this mural is by Edwin Blashfield. And it's called the Evolution of the Civilization. And I have to say it's the, Evolution of Civilization as seen by the artist Edwin Blashfield. Because you have to keep everything within context. And so, it just, it, it consists of the countries and ethics that have contributed to civilization. And it starts with the pharaoh and it goes counterclockwise. So, he's saying that Egypt. It started with Egypt. And down below that, you have written records and Judea and religion. And it goes all the way around. And then, it ends with America with our contribution being science. And then, the individual that you see to the left is a young Abraham Lincoln holding his face in his hands. Now, the Main Reading Room is divided up in eight sections. Each section has these beautiful stained-glass windows where you see the state seals or territories. Alaska and Hawaii aren't included. And then, in between each of these windows, you see a female figure. If you can see the statue right in the middle holding the building. Each one of these. There are eight. Represents an area of civilized thought, so to speak. And so, she represents art. If you look at the bottom landing there, you see the word art. And so, there are eight of them. And they go all the way around. There's commerce. There's science. There's religion. And then, if you look at the next level of statues below these female figures to the right and to the left of her feet, you will see someone, someone renowned in history in that area. So, she represented art. And so, to the right, you see Beethoven. And he's holding his ear. And then, if you were looking to the left, you would see Michelangelo. And then, finally, this is Jefferson's Library. There was another fire that happened in the Capital Building. And unfortunately, it destroyed two-thirds of Jefferson's collection. And so, what survived, the third that survived, is on display in the Library of Congress. And what we've done is we have included copies from our personal library and books that have been purchased from book sellers to, to complete the collection. And then, there are markers for books that have yet to be found. It's, it's in a circle because drawings show that Thomas Jefferson organized his books just like this in a circle. And he had them organized in three areas, Reasons, Imaginations and Memory. And your homework is to find out which books probably went in either one of those categories. And I want to leave you with the notion that, you know, we are not just a library. We are the nations largest library. But we are also a Congressional, we have a Congressional research service for, for Congress. We are the Copyright Office. We are many, many things. And so, I hope that you enjoy the tour. And I hope, you know, when we do get a chance to, to visit agencies and institutions that you do come and visit us. So, thank you. And I will pass it onto Rachel. >> Hi everybody. Can you hear me? >> Yes, loud and clear. >> Great. Okay. Thank you, Uhuru. That was great. Uhuru's showing off the gorgeous Thomas Jefferson Building. And as she said, I'd like to reiterate. When we reopen, please come and see us in person if you possibly can. Because [inaudible] picture, they really don't do justice to the scale, the magnificence and the power [inaudible]. One of my favorite things whenever I take groups around of any age is to see people come up the stairs from the ground floor, where we usually start the tours. And walk into the Great Hall. And you literally see people's mouth open and their jaws drop and hear [inaudible] breath because it's such an impressive sight. So, I'm going to elaborate on ways of expanding the use of the physical Jefferson Building, the structure. Expanding it's use as a primary source because there are so many ways in which we are able to do that. I'm going to cover [inaudible] three main, main topics. First, I'll talk about basically the flexibility of the building when we use it in those terms. Secondly, about some of the, the big topics that we use to illustrate [inaudible] make. And then, lastly, I'll cover how you can supplement the physical building with primary sources in some of our collections and the exhibitions. Basically, so let's go to the first one. Flexibility and adaptability. The Jefferson Building is so adaptable because you can take conversations in many, many different directions depending on the age of your, your audience or their interests. And it's one of the most enjoyable things about my job is to constantly trying to think about new ways in which we can do this. Uhuru talked about the good and the bad government mural, for example. So, let's go, [inaudible] slide 16 come back up again, please, Uhuru. That is the one that [inaudible] straight to the corrupt legislation, illustrating now. Uhuru explained, you know, thoroughly exactly what it represents, how it looks. But you can dig a little bit deeper into all of this. You can talk about how this particular panel illustrates the reach of money. The influence of the, the [inaudible]. So, if you're teaching U.S. History in the gilded age, the Jefferson Building as a whole is a physical manifestation of America's rise in power, [inaudible] influence in the late 19th century. And this particular panel shows all of that. So, we have the influence of money and the [inaudible], as I said. The disparity, the wealth disparity that was [inaudible] manifest in many countries. But in the U.S. in the case of the end of the 19th century to have this [inaudible]. You've got a picture of the factories in the background as a reminder of the rapid industrialization. And the related immigration that was needed to keep those factories going and to help America and she begins to become a world power at the end of the late 19th century. So, the scale, this [inaudible] decorations. But the scale of the building itself, the magnificence and the decorations orchestrate advances of science, technology, and industrialization. Another thing to bear in mind as you look around is the building, of course, is a snapshot of the time. It is a late 19th century representation of attitudes and views towards different groups of people, different parts of the world. And although sometimes, you know, people bristle at that. Its actually really good teaching tool. The names on the statues throughout the building with very, very rare exceptions, the names are all of men. There are two exceptions, two women's names in the building. And every single statue [inaudible] individual or portrait statue is a man. And they're all. Not only are they all men, they're mostly western European. It's pretty much illustrating a [inaudible] view of history. But then, again, as I said, that's a good teaching tool. What does it tell us about 19th century attitudes? [Inaudible] reminders of how things were. And how they have changed or maybe how they haven't changed or not. So, rather than have people say, oh, we shouldn't talk about that. I think it's actually a really valuable tool that we can use. The statues, we had a glimpse of the statues in the Main, in the Main Reading Room. Like, just to give an example, you know, it's Beethoven. It's Michelangelo. The names on the ceiling in the Great Hall. It's Shakespeare. It's [inaudible], Aristotle. There's actually only one quotation from a non-western [inaudible] in the building. Confucius is mentioned elsewhere. So, that's an example of how you can take these [inaudible] subjects and take them in different directions. When it comes to big topics that we're talking about. The umbrella topics that we can use to frame some of our discussions about the building. I'm going to give you two examples that we, that we use. Mythology is one. And imagination is the other. So, if we could have slide 20 up, please, Uhuru. [Inaudible]. We have a mythology tour. We've been doing it for quite a few years now. That looks at the many references to mythology in the classical world in the building. It's very, very popular with schools and families. And we do it predominantly for those audiences. But it's something again you can actually also do with, with an adult audience as well. Mythology. When I say mythology, I mean basically classical mythology, Greek and Roman mythology, is an evergreen topic resurrected almost [inaudible] in the last decade or so of [inaudible] and the Percy Jackson books. And thanks to him, kids are amazingly knowledgeable. So, it's a tour that's fun because we get an awful lot of audience participation. We like to let the audience tell the stories and chime in with their [inaudible] different myths and legends. So, we do everything. We cover architectural features, such as different kind of columns. And we do have an accompanying movement, even [inaudible] dance that teaches difference between Ionic, Doric and Corinthian columns. We also talk about. We talk a lot about Minerva. As you can see from this image here, that discussion then goes on. We talk about what Gods and Goddesses. And that can, you normally have to reign that conversation in because there's so much the children want to say about that. We could talk about Medusa. If you look at the image on the screen, you'll see there's a little Medusa's head on the shield at the bottom near Minerva's feet. And it's a little bit hard to make out. But you've got her snaky hair hanging out there. And we. So, we talk about Medusa. We talk about how her head got on the shield. That leads to conversations about Perseus and his story. Why did Minerva or Athena, her Greek counterpart, why did she change Medusa into a monster in the first place, which leads to all kinds of interesting discussions. Because, as I'm sure you know with myths and legends, some of them are pretty graphic in all kinds of terms. Be it, violence or, you know, physical relations between Gods and Goddesses, Gods and humans. So, that's actually always quite an interesting challenge, as to how you tell that story in an age appropriate manner. We've had some very funny little retellings of these, of these various stories over the years. We also like t point out how references to the classical world are all around us. Not just in the Thomas Jefferson Building. But in Washington D.C. itself. When you're up on Capital Hill, it's impossible not [inaudible] buildings around the Library of Congress and not to be reminded at every step either of, by the columns of, or the Senates buildings. The Supreme Court which, which is right next door and looks as if it's been picked up out of Ancient Greece and plopped right down in Washington D.C. And then, we have a fountain right in front of the Jefferson Building. The Neptune Fountain showing Neptune, the God of the sea. And we also may like to tie this whole concept of the classical mythology to U.S. history. Again, we try and bring everything back to U.S. history. The founding fathers saw the United States as inherited the Roman Law and the Greek democracy. We like to remind the audiences that Latin and Greek were important elements of a good education for generations, including for Thomas Jefferson himself and for many other of the founding fathers. And of their counterparts. So, that's just one example in how we can, we can riff on the contents of the Jefferson Building in another way. One of our latest ways of changing the conversation about the building from the elements of the structures we see around us is our latest [inaudible]. We're using imagination as a central theme. And we call the tour, Imagination, everyone's superpower. Because the emphasis here is on the power and reach of imagination. And how it fuels everything that we see, and we do. And that has turned out to be actually a really powerful way of engaging our audiences, students especially. And getting them to think beyond the obvious. Because our aim is to encourage kids' creative sides. And to basically give them the liberty to give their imaginations absolutely free reign, which is not always possible I know in a classroom setting. So, it's very, very [inaudible]. And we define imagination beforehand. We ask teachers to talk about, to define imagination with their kids. And to also talk about imagination [inaudible] in a [inaudible]. And then, we also talk about how the Library of Congress is a repository of both. Now, this tour we piloted with groups of third graders. But it works for any age. And we start off with a tour of the building. And then, we stop in Comic Arts Exhibition. And then, we are able to have a hands-on activity. We have a new learning lab space, which we're just beginning to use with groups. And we're really excited about being able to add on either a hands-on activity, or some kind of coming together of the group after the tour to really discuss what we've seen. So, if we could move to slide [inaudible], please. This is the image of the Great Hall that we started off with at the beginning of the tour. And it's really a good one to illustrate how absolutely everything that you see in the building started off in somebody's imagination. So, we tie the concept of the Library of Congress itself [inaudible] imagination to the physical features of the space. Another thing that is really important to remember on this tour. It's fun is, fun is vital. To my mind, if you can't incorporate a degree of fun and sometimes [inaudible] enough into a school tour, then you're not going to engage and keep your audience. So, it's a very lively and interactive tour. We like to validate kids' ideas. There's no right and wrong in your imaginations. So, we [inaudible] come at all kinds of things. So, if we could go to slide five, please. The putti slide. One of the ways we like to do this is to think of alternate tools for the putti. So, we see here, as Uhuru explained. We have at the bottom, we have the gardener with a shovel and a rake. The entomologist in the middle. And the student at the top. And kids come up with all kinds of ideas, like for the entomologists. Some of them would say bug spray. Which, you know, it's a, it's a completely valid suggestion. Even if entomologists are not quite as exterminators. But, hey. And I think you'd probably be quite touched to know that with the students, rather than the obvious. You say, [inaudible]. I can into this expecting kids would say, oh, computer, or a tablet. Most of the kids when you ask them what else a student should have, they'll say an apple for the teacher. Which I think is quite nice. So, if we could go to slide six next. The old and the young scholar. This one, the [inaudible] on the arch are essentially representing lifelong learning. The fact that learning is a lifelong activity. And so, we talk about that. That's what the artist meant, [inaudible] them to represent. But what else could they stand for? And again, here, we try to be a frivolous to just encourage them to really come out with whatever ideas they want. So, for example, one of the things we say, well, you know what I think. I think that the message could also be that all people need to eat more. Which normally makes them fall about with laughter. But they can see exactly why because you've got skinny old man on the right with his ribcage showing. And then, the slightly better covered young man on the left-hand side. But the point we're trying to get across is everybody's imagination is unique. And your imagination may be nothing like the person's next to you. But that does not invalidate it at all. The next stop we make is the Gutenberg Bible. If we could have that come up, please. It's slide 13. And this is, this I would like to talk about. It's a really good example of how imagination can change the world. Now, to the, to the modern audience, books and printing is so universal that you have to remind people that it was once revolutionary and once completely new technology. It's a really good jumping off point to talk about everything from increased literacy. Because obviously, when there are more books, more printed materials around, more people can learn to read. To increase freedom of thought and ideas. Because when you can read something for yourself in your language, as opposed to having to have something translated by an educated person from Latin, you can make up your own mind about the material that you're reading. And something that people don't tend to think about quite so much is that the [inaudible] printing press was the beginning of standardization. Obviously, with a written document. First of all, there weren't many books around. But depending on the, the size of the writing or the type of font would be very different, Gutenberg introduced standardization. With standardization come things like page numbers. That means it's much easier for scholars in different parts of Europe to communicate ideas. To refer to certain pages or certain chapters in a book. And everybody knows exactly what you're talking about. So, that's something that you don't necessarily first think of when you start talking about Johannes Gutenberg. For slightly older students, or adult audiences, one thing I really like to emphasize is how the growth, the invention of the printing press led to the gradual loosening of controls by secular and religious authorities on populations. Even the reformation and the spread of Protestantism you can link back to the printing press. Now, when you talk about Martin Luther, we know he handwrote his 95 Theses. Very soon after that, they were printed. And that's how those ideas were able to spread like wildfire throughout Germany and throughout Northern Europe and start off the reformation. So, the basic message here is that books and words have immense power. Something that I think we need to keep reminding ourselves of. Because there's such, they're so commonplace nowadays that we forget quite, quite how groundbreaking and world changing they were. The last part in this imagination tour, we like to. We go to Thomas Jefferson's Library. And I really like to talk there about the, the audacity of imagination. The power of imagination. Because again, we [inaudible] that the American Revolution happened [inaudible]. But if you really think about how radical it was, the group of separate colonies defied and defeated a major world power. And the, the sort of flights of fancy imagination, the willpower it took to do that. Is really quite stunning. It's. We have the vision and the imagination of the founding fathers, which was written down by Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence, which is absolutely astounding. One of the things we do have in the collections is Jefferson's handwritten draft of the Declaration of Independence. You can actually see the thought process that went into this. And the way that the document changed over time. And it's extremely powerful message when you are standing in the middle of the space surrounded by Jefferson's books and you talk about [inaudible] Thomas Jefferson was influenced by what he read in his books here and throughout his life. And how some of that information was distilled and came down to the Declaration of Independence. The last thing that I want to mention is primary sources beyond the physical building. The collections are full of additional resources. And the exhibitions are an easy way to access these. And I just wanted to give you three examples. When you're talking about the gilded age in the late 19th century, we had an exhibition a few years ago about the work of Jacob Riis, who was a journalist, who's graphic photographs of the horrible [inaudible] and living conditions of immigrants in New York City. He really did a great deal to [inaudible] reform. That exhibition is called Jacob Riis, revealing how the other half lives. Danna's just put it up in the chat. Thank you, Danna. When you want to talk about the influence of Gutenberg's printing press and the role [inaudible] in America, we had an exhibition several years ago called First Among Many, The Bay Psalm Book and Early Moments in American Printing. That talked about the development of the press, the, in printing including America. And how it was integral to the fight for independence. This exhibition also showcases the Dunlap Broadside, which is the, was the first printing of the Declaration of Independence. The Library of Congress actually has two copies in our collections. Lastly, to illustrate the wide variety of comic art style and wide variety of imaginations, another way of [inaudible] the different types of imaginations is to have kids be able to see the different styles that are around, is the Comic Arts exhibition. The Comic Arts, 120 Years of Panels and Pages. That's a current exhibition of the Library. So, if you are able to come and see us sometime in the next few months, that should still be up. And that's a really good way to talk about this. So, I hope that gives you a little bit of an idea of how you can riff on the physical structural of the Jefferson Building depending on the message you want to get across or the audiences you're involved with. And I'm happy to answer any questions if anybody has any. >> Thanks, Rachel. And thank you, Uhuru. This was. This was fascinating. And, and I've, I work at the Library of Congress, obviously. But I have to say, Uhuru, when you were taking us through the tour. It was the first time that I got to spend significant time looking at particular images with, in a closeup environment without my glasses on. [Laughter]. I just want to say, thank you. Because I'm not sure I've really ever had enough time to think about all the concepts that are articulated through the building. So, that was, that was truly wonderful. And Rachel, I want to thank you so much for sharing how students get to interact with the building and these resources. And I actually have a question. While we're waiting for folks to put in some questions that they might have. I have a question about. Rachel, you talked about like when people are walking up the stairs and you see their mouths drop open. And like, they're trying to take all, take all of it in. I'm imaging adults. What's happening with students. So, what do you hear from students? Like, I would imagine because they have such a rich imagination that, you know, the comments just must run the gamut. >> Well, they do. The [inaudible]. The physical reaction is that you have the dropping jaws and they need to take a breath. And they're just like, they usually say, woah. And they just, they say it like a palace. It's a book palace. The beauty really strikes them. And it's. That's why, one of the reasons why I think it's so important if we can to, either as parents or as educators, to take our kids to these places because there's something about standing in these grand, grand physical buildings that is really moving and really, really just impressive in every sense of the word. They really are amazed. And a lot of kids, a lot of the school groups we have are from D.C., obviously. And they can't quite understand why they've never been there before. Because it's, it's such a, it's an accessible resource for those who live in the area. But anywhere you live when something is on your doorstep, you sometimes take a little bit for granted. So, I think it's really important to remind people wherever you live to go out and use those resources that we have around us. And luckily to a great degree for free. >> That's great. Thank you. For our teachers who are joining us today, I'm wondering what kind of buildings you might have used with your students, in terms of bringing a concept that you're teaching in your classes. And is it a library that you use? Maybe a visit to the State House. What are some places that you have visited, or you would like to, or when things reopen, that you may think about using as a result of this? And we'll let those, those questions come. I guess, Uhuru, my, my question to you is, you know, in all the tours that you have as a, as a [inaudible], are there any standout comments or questions that you've received from, from somebody on your tour? >> Well, I get a lot of comments about the evolution of civilization obviously. Because that, that seems to really spark a lot of debate. And so, if I were to. If I categorized the questions that I get that stand out, it really has to do with context. And putting everything in context. And, and, and kind of teaching that, you know. You see all of this artwork and sculptures and everything and you listen to the stories and what it's teaching you. But you have to also put everything in context, in terms of it being 1897 and what was happening during that time. So, when you're looking at say the putti, the evolution of civilization and some of the other images that you, that you see, you know, that, that's what tends to really stand out from the ones who like to kind of really delve deeper into, into things. >> If I could chime in as well. The thing that I am often struck by. This is with adults mostly. But there's, there's a really, there's a great sense of pride. A sense of pride in that this is America's National Library. It is this beautiful. This physically impressive. Once you started talking to people and explaining about the collections and what the Library does. About how comprehensive it is. So, I think people, people are very proud. >> That's great. Thank you. So, for our audience, I want to thank you for joining us today. We have about 12 minutes left in the hour. If you have any questions, we have two great guests who are happy to answer them. And we have some other Library employees who, who work in the Jefferson and with the Jefferson Building in a lot of different ways. So, if you have questions, let them come in via chat. And if you need to run on, we certainly understand that. But we have the, we'll have the recording posted as soon as possible for this fantastic tour of the Jefferson Building, as well as we'll save the chat. So, you'll have all the URL's. So, thank you for joining us. And as an announcement. On Thursday, we will be celebrating early, an early Law Day. Law Day is May 1st. And our civics teacher and resident, Jenn Riddell will be with Anna Price from the Library's Law Library to talk about resources we have to support the teaching of law in the classroom. So, we hope that you'll join us on Thursday from 2 to 3. I want to thank again Uhuru Flemming for a fantastic tour in a virtual environment. And I want to thank Rachel Gordon for sharing all of the, the different ways that she uses the, the Jefferson Building as a primary source with students. So, thank you all. If I don't see any questions, which I haven't. Cheryl has moved up the office hours. So, Uhuru, Rachel, any last words? >> I really enjoyed sharing some of the ways we talk about the Jefferson Building. And we really hope that we're open soon and that you can come [inaudible]. >> Yes. >> Alright. Well, thank you everyone. And we hope to see you Thursday at 2 o'clock to celebrate Law Day. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Bye.