>> Hi everyone. I'm Kaleena Black and I work in the Library of Congress' Learning and Innovation Office. Welcome to today's episode of "Online Office Hours" from the Library of Congress. Today we're focusing on exploring the history of the Library of Congress through primary sources. We're so glad you can join us either here live or in the future by recording. These informal sessions are meant to be short. There's going to be a 20 minute presentation and the sessions are being recorded. You will then have the opportunity to talk to each other and the presenters via chat. Let's get started using chat. Please in the chat box tell us your name, where you're joining us from, and what and whom you teach. As I mentioned, today's episode is exploring the history of the Library of Congress through primary sources to help give us a deeper sense of how the story of the library is told through documents, photographs, and more, particularly during significant historical moments. And today we're joined by Cheryl Fox from the library's Manuscript Division. She'll be talking to us about the Library of Congress archives and will be shedding more light on the library during the World War II period. If you have any questions at any time, please share them in the chat box. Our colleague Danna Bell from the Learning and Innovation Office also is on the chat to answer questions and post URLs from today's presentation. So now I'm going to turn things over to Cheryl. >> Thanks Kaleena. [Inaudible] talk about the Library of Congress's history. I work in the manuscript division and I take care of a collection called the LC archives which is the collective records of the Library of Congress and includes also personal papers of the librarians of Congress and other important staff members. So this is the 220th anniversary of the creation of the Library of Congress and it is also the 75th anniversary of the end of World War II. So to kind of bring those together, going to [inaudible] going to take a look today at the online presentation of [inaudible] which is a [inaudible] a lot of the various activities that took place during the war years [inaudible] and [inaudible]. So Kaleena, can we go back to the first slide please? Okay. So the gentleman there on the left, this is an [inaudible] Freedom's Fortress presentation and the gentleman on the left is the Librarian of Congress Archibald MacLeish. And behind them is a copy of the Magna Carta which he is accepting on loan from the British Ambassador to the United States, Philip Kerr or also known as Lord Lothian. MacLeish was a [inaudible] an ardent anti-fascist and he moved quickly to provide additional resources for the federal government through the Library of Congress and he also used the symbolic power of the library as the repository of the nation's most important document to build homefront support for the U.S. to join the effort to defeat the Nazi fascist threat. And if you could advanced to the next slide please. So in slide number two you see a different Librarian of Congress. His name was Herbert Putnam and he is physically installing the independence-- Declaration of Independence, in the shrine in the Great Hall of the Library of Congress building, the Thomas Jefferson building which was a major tourist attraction to the library for nearly 30 years. Beginning in 1903, historical records were transferred from the State Department and other federal departments to the Library of Congress where they could be safely stored and made accessible to scholars. So this photo is not on the Freedom's Fortress presentation but I just wanted to give you a visual of the shrine, this wonderful marble case that was built just specially for this purpose, and Librarian Putnam's hands-on approach to installation in 1924. So if we could go to slide three. Librarian of Congress Archibald MacLeish forged ties with the National Gallery and other repositories in Washington, D.C. as well as libraries throughout the United States to develop standards to ensure the safety of their historical collections. He ordered staff members to evaluate and designate LC collections that were of the highest value. And shortly after the Japanese attack on the Pearl Harbor Naval Base in Hawaii on December 7th, 1941, more than 5,000 custom built crates were transported in over 29 vanloads under convoy to [inaudible] facilities at the University of Virginia, Washington and Lee University, and Denison University in Ohio. They were felt to be safer there away from Washington, D.C. airspace and that was something that a number of other cultural repositories did as well. Now the National Archives which had only been founded in 1935 had a bomb-proof building. It's, you know, a newer building on, in Washington, D.C. And so prior to that time, prior to 1935 that is, the State Department transferred the Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution, and other founding documents to the Library of Congress for safekeeping. And if we could go forward to slide four please. So once the documents had been stored at Fort Knox safely, the Library of Congress continued on with various other works. MacLeish actually was transferred to the State Department and was replaced with Luther Evans, a former director of the WPA program called the Historic Records Survey. And here you see him seated with representatives of the European Mission. So this was a cooperative acquisitions project established by American libraries with the War Department and included librarians and documents experts from various repositories, university research libraries, the National Agricultural Library, etcetera, as well as the Library [inaudible] to address the fact that nobody had been able to find materials from Europe during the war since all commerce and shipping had been blocked. So they decided to send a group of librarians to Germany after the war to buy any publications they could find and distribute those to American libraries. They worked cooperatively to purchase copies of all materials published between 1933 and the end of the war to be distributed to 350 American libraries, and at the same time to reestablish the European book trade. That is, the purchasing agreements with publishers and book dealers. Many libraries and publishers and bookstores had been destroyed during the war and vast quantities of material had been stored in salt mines and other hidden storage areas outside of European cities. So the European mission also played an important role in finding and returning books and documents wherever possible which is similar to the monuments men but they had a different role in that they were buying simply for American libraries. And in slide five we could trans-- there we go, just slide five-- this is also known as the Freedom's Fortress site but I just wanted to give you an idea of the condition in post-war Berlin. The city was divided into four occupation zones as was Germany. And the military pass there on the left was required to travel to the various occupation zones. So the members of the European mission were there at the invitation of the War Department and they were subject to all of the rules that any other member of the military was subject to. And it's sometimes portrayed as the European mission went to Germany and just sort of collected things on its own but that's really not the case. They had to do everything by the book. And the military was in charge. So the last slide that I want to show you-- if we can advance to the next slide-- shows the transfer of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution from the Library of Congress to the National Archives in 1952. So remember that the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution had been in Fort Knox during the war. After the war they came-- were returned to the Library of Congress and remained on display until 1952. It took years of negotiations to determine that the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution should be transferred to the National Archives where they, and the Bill of Rights, could be displayed together for the first time in the National Archives rotunda. There were numerous preservation security measures possible in the new National Archives building that had been impossible to provide at the Jefferson building. But much of the material that had been transferred to the library since 1903 remains at the Library of Congress including the papers of 32 American presidents as well as Thomas Jefferson's rough draft of the Declaration of Independence which is now among the Library of Congress's top treasures. And so I'll conclude my presentation and then be glad to take any questions that anybody has. >> Cheryl, this is Danna. One question that came up was what was the criteria used to identify the materials in the 29 truckloads that were sent to the various universities and Fort Knox? >> Well one thing that they sent was a card catalogue. And you know we don't use the cards anymore but that was absolutely essential to the library's, you know, continued operations and so they wanted to make sure that that was saved. And other irreplaceable things such as, you know, the documents, very rare materials from various sources. But individuals in the various divisions of the Library of Congress were asked to determine-- actually much like we have now-- which things were of the highest value. And I mean, I'm sure that many people can imagine there's lots of things at the library that are irreplaceable because there's only one of them, but these were things that were considered absolutely essential to continuing to operate as the national collection and having various things-- maybe the Gutenberg Bible that isn't really about American history but it is such a precious item. Those sorts of things were sent off site. >> Okay. Another question that came up was one person noticed that there was one woman in the image of the people from the European mission and they were wondering who she was and what her position was. >> Her name was Janet Emerson. She worked in the acquisitions division of the library and she was the only member of the mission who was there the entire 20 months of the operation. People, you know, subbed in and out and there were people who had already been in occupied Germany who took part in the mission, but she was the one staff member who was there the entire time. >> Thank you, Cheryl. Hopefully my-- the folks that have joined us, thanks for coming to this presentation. We'll have other questions about the Library of Congress, its history, its activities during World War II, and so on. And if you do, you can put them in the chat box and I will share them with Cheryl. Cheryl, sorry. >> Cheryl, Kaleena is-- Kaleena here. I-- just a question for you. I'm really curious about this idea of the LC archives and I wondered, you've shown photographs and you know we've alluded to letters, and I wondered what teachers or student would be surprised to know is, are in the archives. Like what kinds of objects or kinds of items? >> Well let's see. About the earliest items that were collected, you know, historical records that were not in use anymore but the people thought was historically significant and should be saved to document the history of the library were the Library of Congress's-- Librarians of Congress Letter books. And so all of the correspondence having to do with the operations of the library were documented. And as the library changed and grew, there were different pieces of information and artifacts even that were passed from librarian to librarian and I'll give you just one exa-- or two examples. One, we often talk about how the Thomas Jefferson Library had such an impact o the library's collection when it was purchased in 1815 and, you know, one of the things about it is that it's not just the books that were in it but the arrangement of them that is significant. And that arrangement remained in use until the early 1900's. So when Spofford was introducing the new Librarian of Congress to the collection, he or he had somebody, draw up a tree which shows all the various branches and departments. And so the arrangement of the Library of Congress collections. And then this was very essential for people coming up with Library of Congress classification system to be able to know what was in the collection and how it had been arranged. And then another interesting thing is that when Librarian of Congress Herbert Putnam was librarian, Abraham Lincoln's granddaughter-- or is it grand-niece? Now I'm going to forget. Anyway, she entrusted the contents of Abraham Lincoln's pockets on the night he was assassinated to the Librarian of Congress. And Putnam packed them up and put them away in the safe in his librarians office where they stayed until much later, like 1980 or so when Daniel Boorstin because Librarian of Congress because he had put them in a package that said for the librarian only. So, you know, possibly two or three librarians of congress after Putnam took a look at the package, maybe opened it, maybe didn't open it, and put it back in there and just waiting for what would be a more appropriate moment to be able to disclose what those items were. >> Wow. That's really interesting. If I could ask one more question. I wondered if you had a sense at all of the kinds of questions that might come from patrons or through Ask a Librarian, just kind wonder what kinds of questions they get about the materials in the archives. >> What kind of questions I get? >> Um hum. >> Well it interesting somebody wanted to know about Janet Emerson because I often get questions from people saying well my grandmother or my, you know some relative, used to work at the library. What did he or she do there? And we made contact with the grandson of a man who was an electrician at the Library of Congress beginning, you know, in 1897 when the Jefferson Building was built. More recently we've been in contact with the son of Librarian of Congress Daniel Boorstin about some things that he wrote during his time at the Library. So I mentioned that papers of the Librarians of Congress, we have substantial papers for many Librarians of Congress-- only a few things for the early ones-- and in the-- I should have mentioned much earlier that the Freedom's Fortress-- all material from the LC archives, there's not great chunks of the archives that have been digitized at this point, but this Freedom's Fortress presentation is a nice selection of publications and original documents and photographs from that 1939 to 1952 time period. >> Thank you. Well hopefully-- any other questions please put them in the chat box. Any questions about anything that we've talked about here or things you've been curious about, please share. One thing that I wanted to ask you Cheryl, while we're letting others post their questions, is how did you get to the library? I know that you're a history specialist but I wondered what led you to the manuscript division and then ultimately to the LC archives? >> Well I studied American history in graduate school and also museum studies. And for a while, about 10 years, I was a museum curator. And I came to the library to do public programming initially but eventually made my way to the manuscript division and I was really, really just fascinated by the collections of the library-- rather the records of the Library of Congress and began to work to specialize more in that. There's just so many fabulous stories about people at the library and the, you know, how materials were acquired over the years I think is very interesting and important. And how the collection has grown. And the collections sort of shape the trajectory of the library. But at the same time, Librarians of Congress of course, and outside events shape what the library does as well and what the library collects. >> Related to that, a question came in saying what sorts of things do you think will go into the LC archives as a result of what's been going on over the last nine weeks? >> Well I imagine that the-- that like the official records of, you know, sort of the documents that are created will go one place but I'm hoping that the more ephemeral material will come to the LC archives. I mean I just have to differentiate there are the official records of the library which are taken care of by our records management service, and they are-- some small amount of them are sent to the National Archives. But the LC archives has been more a repository for things that an individual might have collected around-- I should say during this time period. For example, if somebody's at home and documents their work on a project that has to do with, you know, the reopening of the library, then maybe that type of material would become available at some point. >> Thank you Cheryl. Are there any other questions from people in the audience? We'd love to hear from you. >> I wondered if there are any other moments-- historical moments-- that are, you know, well documented in the LC archives that, or elsewhere, about the library's history that are available online that teachers might be interested in? >> I think probably the library's earliest history is the best documented on the website, particularly I'm thinking of the time period between 1864 and 1897 when Ainsworth Rand Spofford was Librarian of Congress. And so he became-- he was appointed by Abraham Lincoln and he had a huge impact on the library because he convinced congress that the U.S. copyright operations should be handled at the library. And what that meant practically speaking was that the library had access to two copies of everything published in the United States for free because those had to be turned in for the copyright deposit. Now the library has never collected everything that is published in the United States, but it had access to any of those materials. And some of the really amazing things that we have are a result of that. For example, really old films-- or I should say the earliest films-- were copyrighted by sending in a paper print of their-- of the film. Not the film itself, but a paper copy. And those films that are no longer available anywhere, at least we have a copy of them and we've been able to restore those for people to be able to see. And also I think the copyright deposit gives the Library of Congress an incredible collection of popular culture that other libraries that don't have access to those types of materials can't collect as effectively because-- material that's more ephemeral like comic books or baseball cards or sheet music. >> Thank you. >> Another question came in. What are your favorite items in the LC archives? Scrapbooks? Letters? Other materials? >> I think about my most favorite materials are the letters that Librarian of Congress-- former Librarian of Congress Ainsworth Spofford mailed, or exchanged, with the current Librarian of Congress Herbert Putnam. After Putnam became Librarian of Congress in 1899, he was gracious enough to offer Spofford the opportunity to travel to Europe and do some acquisition trips. And, or as Putnam put it, in order to travel as an ambassador of the Library of Congress and acquire materials on its behalf. Or something along those lines. So it was a very esteemed position for Spofford to be able to have and it was an experience of a lifetime for him, I'm sure. And it just-- it's touching to me that Putnam was so respectful of all that he had done for the library that he gave him an opportunity to make those trips when he really would not have needed to, and perhaps he even wanted to go himself instead. >> That's wonderful. If people want to read more about the history of the Library of Congress, are there published materials that would be something that someone might want to obtain? >> So the most recent publication on the history of the Library of Congress is a new version of a chronology of the library's history and it's-- it's just a wonderful publication. The first chronology that John Cole, the Historian of the Library of Congress did some years ago is vey sparsely illustrated and this one has lots of color pictures and much more extended description of the events in the library's history. And of course it takes you from 1800 all the way up to the current Librarian of Congress Carla Hayden. >> That's wonderful. Another question that just came in, someone asks if the Library of Congress was involved in any way with getting library books to troops in World War I and World War II. The person knows that ALA was involved, but was the library? >> So the World War I war service-- or what is it called? I think it's war service. Was actually headquartered at the Library of Congress and they received-- they received requests, sometimes handwritten notes or telegrams from military personnel all over requesting specific books. And then it was determined that it would be better to establish camp libraries. And so the ALA established libraries at American military camps in the United States and in Europe. And personnel could go there and read and borrow books and it was a really successful means for people from all walks of life-- of course there was a draft then-- and so there were people from many different backgrounds involved in World [inaudible] to obtain an education in an era where the literacy rate is not as high as it is now. In World War II there's been some writing about the library's-- the Library of Congress worked with publishers to publish popular books in small enough form that they could be carried with army personnel. Like smaller than a paper bag. Yeah, the Armed Services Editions. And the library actually has a pretty complete collection of all of those that were published and there are really famous and interesting authors whose work is represented among them. >> Thank you Cheryl. That's wonderful. Are there other questions? >> Great, well I will just say thank you so much Cheryl for sharing all that you know with us and leaving us with lots of food for thought. I'm going to put your-- the start of the slides so everyone can see. And if they have questions, please let us know after the fact. Thank you all for joining us. Just to let you know, this Thursday, May 14th at 2 p.m. our next "Online Office Hour" will focus on historical children's books at the Library of Congress and we'll be sharing the online collection of rare children's books with you and hear from a children's literature specialist. And also we do-- we'll be starting to offer webinar Wednesdays starting next week. These are professional development opportunities-- free one hour sessions. And so next week, May 20th at 2:00 our webinar will be on the "Shall Not Be Denied" exhibition so it's related to women's suffrage. And if Danna or Kathy [assumed spelling] you could post a link to the professional development page so that the participants can follow up. Please do join us. If there aren't any more questions, thank you so so much for joining us again and we hope to see you at a future "Online Office Hour" or we hope that you enjoy the recording. >> Thanks. >> Thanks so much, Cheryl.