>> Charlotte Giles: Thank you everyone for joining us today for our event, "The Preservation and Presence of Textiles in Library and Museum Collections: A Panel and Discussion," hosted by the Asian Division at the Library of Congress. My name is Charlotte Giles, and I am joined by my colleague Jonathan Loar. We are the South Asian Reference Librarians with the Asian Division, and we will be moderating this event. Before we begin, just a couple of housekeeping notes -- not rules. We will be recording today's event. So, that is Number 1. If you have any issues, please let us know. The second note is that our program will involve five to seven-minute long presentations, of our five speakers, with the final 20 minutes left for Q and A. Since we did get a little bit of a late start, we'll be going probably a little bit over 3. I hope that some of you will be able to stick with us through that to leave. Jon, if you could go to the next slide? To leave questions and comments for that Q and A session, please locate the Chat at the bottom, right-hand of your screen. Please ensure that the question is sent to everyone. So, there's that little drop-down menu where it says, "To." And please make sure that it is sent to "All Panelists." And you're more than welcome to share also with All the Attendees as well. That is totally up to you. And third, everyone except the panelists will remain muted throughout the event. So, we won't be taking any verbal questions. So, please just put those in the chat. The Library of Congress is an amazing place, home to over 170 million items, over half of which are international in scope. Here you may find a plethora of resources in a variety of forms, like textiles, that you may not think of when you think of a library. Textiles, like the text in a book, may be read to gain new insights about the places, cultures, and peoples who created them. Throughout presentations today, we will see a small but powerful sample of resources that we hold, and how we ensure their longevity for future generations. Access to our collections is free and open to the public, and not dependent on U.S. nationality. Our speakers for today include Eiichi Ito, a Japanese Reference Specialist with the Asian Division at the Library of Congress, Kathy Woodrell, a Reference Specialist in the Decorative Arts and Architecture Section of the Researcher and References -- Reference Service Division at the Library of Congress, Yasmeen Khan who is the Head of the Paper Conservation Section in the Conservation Division at the Library of Congress, Dan Paterson who is a Senior Conservator at the Book Conservation Section at the Library of Congress, and Maria Fusco, the Chief Conservator at the Textile Museum at the George Washington University. So, if our first speaker is ready, let's -- is -- do we have Eiichi with us? I don't see him. Perhaps he's having some connection difficulties. So, Kathy, if you feel comfortable going up, it's all yours? >> Kathy Woodrell: Good. Thank you, Charlotte. I'm Kathy Woodrell. I'm the Decorative Arts and Architecture Specialist in the Main Reading Room at the Library of Congress. In 2019, I recommended four volumes in collaboration with the Rare Book and Special Collections Division. I'll be showing designs from these volumes, and I'll also mention a few significant cultural and technological events that took place when these volumes were created. Paris was the most influential peak of western decorative arts in the 19th Century. These volumes of original design drawings, intended for printed textiles, complement existing collections of textile and clothing resources, fashion plates, wallpaper samples, and early journals and periodicals. The brothers Francois Jean Claude and Victor Jean Claude, founded J. Claude Freres et. Cie in 1834. By the 1840s, the firm offered a subscription service. They were actually pioneers in the production of sample textile designs, marketed through fabric swatches, and distributed to textile manufacturers in Europe, British, Britain, and the United States. Some of the designs are drawn or painted directly in the album, and others are mounted samples. These are clearly in need of preservation apropos for this panel. And the designs are housed in 19th Century linen-backed boards, and in 20th Century portfolios with ties. My delight at acquiring these volumes is obvious, but this is the only image I have of the portfolios with ties. Here's a shoutout to Mark [inaudible] for this photo. This 1847 volume is filled with floral and botanical drawings, some realistic, and others quite abstract. The drawings can be found in watercolors, pen and ink, graphite, Gouache. Some were unfinished, as -- is the one that you see on the right. Could these be designs for ribbons? Could they have been designs for wallpaper borders? In this era, scrapbooking and paper crafts were a very popular activity. So, just curious about that. There are many, many images of flowers and bouquets. Although flowers have been assigned meaning for hundreds of years, the language of flowers was a popular concept in the 19th Century. This volume holds over 100 botanical drawings in red ink, some with graphite, as you see on the right. This series is painted on patterned papers. Notes suggest future measurements, instructions for color, etcetera. The invention of the cylinder printing press drastically increased the publication of magazines, including fashion-related journals that broadened the global view, and contributed to an increasingly literate and culturally aware population. This volume includes 37 Japonesque assemblages. And this one has strips of roscoesque [phonetic] painted color stripes. The notes in Volumes 4 and 6 occasionally include a designer's initials. It's very likely that the designers from the Freres firm, attended the Great Exhibition of 1851, held at the Crystal Palace in London. There they would have seen textiles and industrial equipment from many other countries. How did the Great Exhibition change their design aesthetic? Two of these volumes were created before 1851. Two were created afterward. They certainly would have seen cashmere shawls or fabric, made since the 17th Century with a distinct design, a teardrop with a bent tip. The Buta or Boteh, meaning literally, "flower," inspired one of the most awesome, repeated textile designs and motifs that we now call paisley. The appropriation and history of cashmere cloth is laden with political and trade factors much too numerous to outline, however authentic cashmere shawls and shawl cloth were valuable and coveted. Therefore copying the design and the shawls themselves, was a lucrative decision. This sample, which I find really interesting, appears to have embroidered motifs throughout the pattern. You can see them at the lower edge or on the right, and actually in the Boteh itself. It also includes fringe, which emulates cashmere shawl cloth. Here's an unfinished design. I find it so intricate and exotic. And I also wonder, "Were they waiting for another color way? Were they going to try a different color?" These volumes provide numerous ways to study the influence of French textiles on global fashions. By the late 19th Century, the J. Claude Freres Firm was the leading fabric subscription service in Paris. They were awarded a prize at the Exposition Universelle in 1878, and they were in existence for 150 years, under the same name, until 1979. American mills, using a French fabric subscription service, could copy and manufacture fabric in three weeks' time. In 1856, a teenage chemist accidentally synthesized the color mauve from the byproducts of the coal/tar industry. Then called mauveine, or aniline purple, mauve was an instant sensation, followed by its cousin, magenta. The discovery of synthetic dyes revolutionized the textile industry, and instigated a new industry, organic chemistry. Germany excelled with textile discoveries and innovations. This textile design volume, dated 1900, is a brand-new acquisition in rare book I have not yet had my hands on it. It has over 400 original designs from Wuppertal, Germany. The designs are for tapestries, damask, brocades, silk, and other high-end textiles for the luxury market. The notes include technical information and the designers name. Founded in 1891, the Noss [phonetic] and Lucas [phonetic] Mill specialized in exotic fabrics for the luxury market. Designs with art nouveau and arts and crafts influences are also included. In closing, these volumes hold over 1,000 original textile designs. The research possibilities are endless. I hope you're inspired. Let me know how I can help you. Thank you. >> Eiichi Ito: My name is Eiichi Ito. I'm a Reference Specialist for the Japanese Collection. And I would like to talk about three books from the Japanese Collection today. And to start, the one on the right, you can see [inaudible] two women are weaving [foreign name], [inaudible] language, [inaudible] tree bark fiber. And this is from the Ezo kiko, Ezo Travels, by Tani Bunkei. And this is recently [inaudible] in the collection. Finally we see that [inaudible] Japan, and [inaudible] is their home. We [inaudible] in two books of [inaudible]. I want to show [inaudible] prints, and then side by side. On the left, "Under the Wave of Kanagawa," and on the right, "The Gateway to Enoshima Island in Sagami Bay." Both have [inaudible]. As you can see on the left, the Hokusai size print, very [inaudible] is obstruction and embellishes in a way from realism, even [inaudible]. On the right, Hiroshige's print is [inaudible] calm [inaudible] depiction of non-statements and traditional [inaudible]. But it's such a different [inaudible]. So, next slide is where you're going to see the two books of [inaudible] textile covers of two books. Also, it's [inaudible] covers on the left. [Inaudible] quick to [inaudible] on [inaudible]. The sketch [inaudible] as well. Hiroshige book's covering the more or less align with the traditional Japanese [inaudible] on the right. By the design of the cover [inaudible] textile of [inaudible] and [inaudible]. [Inaudible] contrast of textile covers are [inaudible]. [Inaudible] are quite different between the two. On the left, Hokusai's [inaudible] actually this is not [inaudible] now. Unfortunately, I didn't have access to the library [inaudible] every month. So, this is from [inaudible]. Nonetheless, this is from a different title. [Inaudible] images or rather the drawings of the Hokusai's book that I'm talking about now, it's similar to this. So, it's kind of instruction for how to draw. On the right, this is the one drawing of Hiroshige's. So, the next few slides I would like to show [inaudible] the two books. This is Hokusai's. The geometric in and I hope someone in the audience can tell us about the design motif of this cover. I'm not sure, but it's like almost like [inaudible] or early [inaudible]. [Inaudible] it has [inaudible] now because of the [inaudible] of the book as a text or instruction book. This is other Hiroshige's textbook [inaudible]. >> Charlotte Giles: Hi, Eiichi. I'm sorry to interrupt. Some of the folks-- >> Eiichi Ito: [Inaudible] Yes? >> Charlotte Giles: -some folks are having some difficulty hearing you. Would it be possible to speak a little bit closer to the mic, or a little bit louder? Thank you. >> Eiichi Ito: Okay. I'll do that. Thank you. Sorry about. This is a Hiroshige's book [inaudible]. So more [inaudible] traditional Japanese [inaudible]. So, next is the third one that I'd like to [inaudible]. [Inaudible] the Kogei. This magazine published from 1931 to 1951 and 120 volumes altogether. And each [inaudible] I'm sorry. Each volume issued 800 to 1,000 copies published in [inaudible]. Coterie Magazine to promote Mingei Undo, [inaudible] movement in Japan led by Yanagi Muneyoshi, also known as Yanagi Soetsu. You will see in the next slide, the three examples of [inaudible]. On the left, this is the handwoven textile, and in the center, Katazome stencil dyeing fabric by Keisuke Serizawa. On the right, Bingata or red pattern dyed fabric by Serizawa, inspired by a stencil dyeing method of Okinawan traditional technique. The last one is a closeup of the cover of Volume 67, published in 1936. It dyed probably by the same Serizawa. He was inspired by the stencil dyeing method called [inaudible], or Okinawan traditional technique. This is a [inaudible]. So, these are the books I'd like to introduce today. And I have one question, but before we get [inaudible] we use as the cover of the books, [inaudible] three examples of this [inaudible]. [Inaudible] this magazine. [Inaudible] has [inaudible]. This is a [inaudible]. I always have when I visit the museum. And you see the massive painting on the wall of the museum. [Inaudible] who gets to decide the frame of the [inaudible] or agents. [Inaudible] the previous owner before we acquire these books. It may be [inaudible]. But there's no records of [inaudible]. In general, we know [inaudible]. There's no such information. [Inaudible] what kind of textile they use. So, that's [inaudible]. [ Inaudible ] Thank you very much. >> Charlotte Giles: Thank you, Eiichi. I see a couple of questions coming into the chat. We'll get to those -- we'll get to those at the end of the session. Just to briefly answer one question, "Where are these located?" All items that are being presented today, these are all located at the Library of Congress. The ones that you just saw that Eiichi presented, those are located with the Asian Division at the Library of Congress, and those that Kathy, Kathy Woodrell presented, those are with the Rare Books Division, which she is -- which she worked with quite closely. >> Yasmeen Khan: So, I'm going to talk a little bit about conserving textiles at the Library of Congress. The Conservation Division provides preservation services to their rare and special collections at the Library of Congress. Textiles make up a subgroup of these special collections. Here are some of the activities as they are activities as they relate to the conservation of textiles. Mainly, we are a repository of books, and we treat, stabilize and house collection materials with the understanding that they will be served safely to researchers and [inaudible], in the future, present and future. Our conservatives are trained in book, paper, and photo conservation. However, I'll be showing you an array of textiles in different formats that the library conservators worked on. Most textiles are treated when repairing books, and form a significant part of the conservation treatment. Stabilization involves cleaning and flattening textiles in other formats. That is, the ones that aren't in bound format, prior to rehousing. Mainly, we focus on rehousing our flat textiles. Other activities that form part of our daily responsibilities such as monitoring and advocating for the best environment for the collections materials, also affect textile collections. Securing the collection, including [inaudible] emergency response for events such as water leaks, and other catastrophic events. For textiles in particular however, we consult with outside experts on best practices, and where we don't have the knowledge ourselves. Many books have been bound in cloth, especially starting from the 19th Century, onwards. Conservators use book conservation techniques to repair them. My colleague Dan will be talking about this in greater detail in the next presentation. The treatment of this Persian manuscript involved -- it was quite complex because the pages, as you can see, are highly illuminated and needed extensive repair. The cover was also treated. Instead of this cover being a book bound in cloth, the cloth here has been framed on the board with leather. And that is to show how valuable this particular cloth was. It is a [inaudible] and cashmere from the -- that is much older than just the text. Possibly 100 years older. And is made of pieced pieces of textile, which is one of the reasons why it's been dated as being from the 1800s. This leather binding of an Armenian Gospel is what it -- from what is now Lebanon and Syria, has a cloth doublure. That is, the inside cover is lined with cloth, as you can see on the image on the right. The binding is contemporary with the text, and therefore, we assume the cloth is contemporary as well. It is made up of blue and maroon linen threads, and was very minimally treated to retain -- so that we could retain the original wear and tear of the book. The look of the book would remain true. On the right, you can see a 19th Century deluxe binding, where the doublure and the [inaudible] are made up of silk velvet. Red silk velvet. This item came into the lab for an assessment to assess both the condition of the silk, and the micro mosaics that are embedded in this -- in the [inaudible]. This is -- here is a scrapbook that was assembled by a famous aeronaut, Alfred [foreign name]. It contains samples of famous 19th Century textile and paper air balloons. Scientists at the library identified that there is resins used to coat the textiles -- used for the balloons, so that the conservator during the treatment could make a more appropriate choice of the [inaudible] to mend the torn samples and the ones that were loose from the leaves. The next slide is of a silk cloth has been bound into this parchment manuscript from the Rare Book Division. And to protect the illumination. So, the treatment here was to assess the condition of the pigments, and also to flatten the silk so that the creases wouldn't braid the pigments on this particular piece. Another type of text -- other types of textiles associated with books in particular are wrappers. Some Ethiopian manuscripts have these simple -- simple [inaudible] book wrappers, that have pieces in that protect the edges of the book pages as well. We always box these cloth-wrapped books to protect the wrappers, as well as the books that are shelved. Often, these wrappers are made up of Indian textiles. Here is a wrapped Tibetan Buddhist Sutra, that is in the lab for treatment -- for the treatment of the leaves. These black leaves. However, the conservator will also assess the condition of the rectangular handpiece of silk, is to wrap the manuscript. If it can be reused, it will continue to be used to wrap the manuscript as it helps create the context for the reader of what is contained within the wrapping. Again, in this case, both the book and wrapping will be housed in a custom-made box. In this photograph, the scroll on the right is an example of a paper scroll, lined with cloth to reinforce and strengthen the paper. Sometimes we treat such items by removing the layers of cloth and paper linings to reset the natural flexibility of the paper. But again, in this particular case, we retained the original -- the linen lining. On the left is a Japanese scroll, hand-painted scroll, of Admiral Perry's first visit to Japan. Commonly, Japanese and other East Asian scrolls are tightly rolled, and may come in wooden boxes, original wooden boxes, such as this. In this particular roll, the first couple of feet is a silk brocade, that was unraveling, especially along the edges. In addition, the paper of the scroll was cupping due to the small circumference of the dowel around which it was being -- it was rolled. [Inaudible] Again, after consolidating and mending the silk, the conservator rerolled the scroll around a custom constructed support, with a larger circumference to minimize the future cupping and rupture of the paper fibers. The new box -- a new box will be made that will now house not only the original box and scroll -- both the original box and scroll. Here is a quick look at what we found after unfolding a brittle piece of paper -- swatch of paper, namely an extremely large sheet of paper with attached swatches of cloth for a Broadway production. After light cleaning of the paper, and cloth swatches, the conservator mended the tears and flattened the piece overall. And then encapsulated it in mylar and put it in an appropriate folder so that it could then be served to researchers and be made accessible. The library has a number of rugs. This is just a small subset of them. The housing of these rugs involved light cleaning, the creation of custom-made rolls, and cloth coverings in boxes. My colleague, Jen Lewis [phonetic], who's in the black shirt, is an expert at getting our automated box-making machine to design different forms of boxes for our varied collection at the library. So, I've shown you sort of an array of materials -- textile materials from various divisions and collections at the Library of Congress. And this is just a slide to show you how other items have received similar treatments with custom housings. I'd like to point out a couple of things though of collections items. The two items on the right, are from the Veterans History Project, and pertain to wars fought by the U.S. The shirt on the top left, is a talismanic cotton shirt from eastern Iran, possibly [inaudible]. And the item at the bottom, is a very large box, measuring about 8 and a half by 5 feet. As you can tell, it's being carried by many hands. And it houses this tanka, which is an 18th Century tanka gifted to the library by the Dalai Lama. One of the services that conservation provides to the divisions, is also our assistance in moving and mounting really large textiles to temporary displays, and long-term exhibition. It took a village of conservators and Jon to move this tanka through -- three -- two buildings to get it to this particular point of exhibition. And with that, I end my presentation, and give you to Dan Paterson who will talk about a more in-depth conservation treatment. Thank you. >> Dan Paterson: Okay, well, thank you Charlotte for the opportunity to be here today. And thanks to my colleagues for their introductions to some of the ways that we encounter textiles at the Library of Congress. I'd like to follow-up on Yasmeen's presentation and go over some of the ways we encounter textiles in bound materials, and focus on one large project in particular. We find some examples of textiles in virtually every book that is designated for conservation treatment. Often, these are hidden or less obvious components of a bound volume. The picture on the screen is a textile lining from an Islamic manuscript. This volume likely had a leather binding, that completely covered the textile and made it invisible. We refer to this particular piece of cloth as a spine lining. And use of textiles as spine linings is extremely common across bookbinding traditions from different geographic regions and time periods. This is not surprising since bookbinders realized that adhering a cloth lining to the backs of books, before putting on the final cover, was a discreet method adding strength and support to a book when it opens and when the pages were turned. In contrast to hidden binding elements, we often encounter bindings that have textile covering as one of the main components. I've worked with TF Conservators since 2015 to prepare the Library of Congress collection of the Yongle Encyclopedia for digitization. Each volume of the Yongle has a full silk cover over the text block. As background, the Yongle Encyclopedia was written between 1405 and 1408, under the leadership of the Third Ming Dynasty emperor. Originally, there were over 22,000 volumes in the encyclopedia, each one unique, making it the world's largest compendium of knowledge until well into the 20th Century. A second copy of the entire encyclopedia was made in the 1560's. Now, there are approximately 400 volumes remaining worldwide, include 41 at the Library of Congress. In order to make digital copies available, a complete and comprehensive review and conservation program was implemented for all of the volumes. Each volume had the same binding structure, an example of which is here on the screen. With this style of binding, the yellow-gold silk on the exterior of the book, is in the central part of the attachment of the boards to the text block. The silk is the component that allows the cover to flex at the joint when the book is opened, acting as a fulcrum. In addition, the silk is central to the history of the volumes, whereas we might remove and replace a hidden element, like the spine lining shown in the first slide, we would be incredibly hesitant not to reuse and retain this silk if at all possible. As you can see in the before treatment images, the silk [inaudible] is badly damaged. In fact, and these images are very representative of all 41 volumes. And in virtually each case, we had to make repairs that allow for the binding to again function as it was intended. The need for the binding to function is always one of our major concerns in book conservation. Since this object, like all of the books we provide conservation treatment for, will eventually be used and handled again by researchers and staff. And you can see if I can just [inaudible] here [inaudible]. On the right-hand side, all the -- the image on the left, all that thread and silk was originally covering the spine. And then these are aftertreatment images of the same book. As you can see, all the loose silk fragments have be adhered -- re-adhered to the cover and the boards and spine. This treatment was based on a combination of conservation techniques. One common method for reattaching covers involves temporarily removing elements of the spine, adding new repair material underneath, and then returning the spine to its original position. We repaired most of the volumes in the collection, following this protocol, by using [inaudible] handmade paper as a substitute for the silk. The original bindings used yellow-gold paper as a layer under the silk. So, it was an obvious choice to utilize paper for our repairs. The silk, when [inaudible] here to the edges of the covers and spine, was generally lifted off. The toned paper was used to repair the edges of the board and reattach the cover of the book [inaudible] -- to the book block. And finally, the original silk was carefully re-adhered to the boards and spine. Now, the flexing action of the binding in the drawing has been transferred entirely to the paper repairs. I chose this slide to show an example of where we decided not to treat something. The reason we just show the back cover of Volume 22, the cover, like all the volumes, received some very gentle dry-cleaning, using soft, absorbent sponges. This kind of dry-cleaning removes surface dirt that might inadvertently be transferred to the pages, as someone handles the book. The dirt gets on people's hands when they [inaudible] like a cover and then it's transferred to pages when they open the book. By removing this dirt, we prevent this transfer from happening. The larger black stain in the middle of the cover, however, is a different issue. We feel that this stain, which is somewhat greasy and sooty in appearance, is probably the result of the fire in the Imperial Library that broke out during the Boxer Rebellion. The [inaudible] volumes were stored there, and many of them now show evidence of being in the fire and its immediate aftermath. This stain was dry-cleaned in order to make sure there would be no transference, but as you can see, in the [inaudible] image on the right, no other effort was made to minimize its appearance. Much of our decision to leave it as is, has to do with the history of the book. And this stain as evidence of those events. Finally, I wanted to discuss our approach when the original silk cover was completely missing, as in the case with Volume 23. This new cover on the right, is made from a high-quality imported book cloth. The primary goal of making a new cover was to provide protective outer layer that would safeguard the textbook. However, while the book cloth is very beautiful and the best match of the commercially available products that we had access to, I was not comfortable attaching it to the book. It is a somewhat incongruous companion to the 450-year old handmade paper, and beautiful calligraphy of the text. And to make their attachment permanent or semi-permanent by adhering them together, was a step that I ultimately was not comfortable with. I made the decision to keep this as a simple wrapper that covers the book completely, but is fully separate. The wrapper and the book are then stored inside a protective box, much like some of the examples that Yasmeen showed. So, there's no threat of the book being unprotected. The wrapper safeguards the text block and being removed the box, and is the job of an attached cover without a permanent connection. >> Maria Fusco: So, hello and thank you all for having me here today. It's nice to be here. As Charlotte mentioned, I'm not at the Library of Congress. It's been a really lovely opportunity to meet everyone there. I'm at a museum across the mall, the George Washington University Museum, The Textile Museum. I'm a Textile Conservator, and I was asked today to present an overview on textile care and conservation approaches. Showing our museum's methods is one example to provide a broad context for the chat today. Our museum functions in part as a traditional museum, with collections who's primary use is exhibition, but also contains collections who's primary use is research and access, while in the vein of the Library of Congress. I'll briefly touch on the different entities within our museum, and general aspects of textile care, storage, and exhibit. Sharing the right thing? I don't seem to-- . Is that better? Our museum currently holds four collections and occupies two locations. If collections are textile-based, the Textile Museum, the Cotsen Textile and the Cotsen Textile Traces [inaudible], mostly comprise rugs, ethnographic and archaeological textiles, but also textile sample books, tools [inaudible] works by contemporary textile artists. One collection is paper-based, the Washingtoniana Collection, which is made up of maps and prints related to the history of Washington D.C. We have a downtown site on GW's Foggy Bottom campus, which houses our galleries. Also, a noncirculating research library which features hard-to-find resources on global textiles and traditional dress. [Inaudible] site, we have two study centers. One paper-based, where the Washingtoniana Map and Print Collection is housed. One textile-based, where the Cotsen Textile Traces Collection is housed. More on these in a moment. Our second site is on GW's Science and Technology Campus is Ashburn, Virginia. This is our Collection Storage Center. This site is home for our main lab. Our storage magazine, which houses two museum collections. These two collections, the Textile Museum and the Cotsen Textile Collections, are used in a traditional way, house their main storage center. [Inaudible] not open to public, but objects are available for access to research [inaudible]. Workshops are held in the center to further make the collection available. But these collections are tapped much more frequently for exhibition. Objects are treated. Mounts prepared. Objects are transited downtown for exhibit and back again to the storage center. A fairly traditional use of a museum collection. The Washingtoniana and Cotsen Textile Traces Collection -- Collections, sorry, are used in manners I believe, more in the vein of the Library of Congress's collections. They're housed at our downtown site, which is our public site. The collection forms the nucleus of a study center. Objects are exhibited. But each collection's primary purpose is research and access. [Inaudible] Center has been accessible to researchers, historians, faculty and students since 2015. And there currently is digital resources and virtual programming available, with a fuller opening planned once GW's campus reopens. And a quick aside here, this collection, the Traces Collections, has many counterparts to books presented here today. So, it's nice to see them. Japanese textiles [inaudible] books, a few sample books from the Freres Firm as Kathy presented on and many textiles -- some textile bound or wrapped books. It's nice to see some familiar brethren. Our conservation department provides tiers of service to these collections, and by area of staff specialization. So, we're [inaudible]. Also based on each collection's purpose and relativity. Conservation provides preventive conservation services to the two study center collections. And this entails environmental monitoring, integrated pest management, and object rehousing services. Relatively stable, these collections are not intended largely for exhibit. Conservation provides both interventive services, since [inaudible] be treatment analysis and mount work, and also preventive conservation services to the TM and Cotsen Textile Collections. These are the more traditionally, or for a museum, more traditionally used collections. The ones who are actively exhibited. In these tiers of service, conservations set standards on collections care, and works with the colleagues in the collections management, [inaudible] departments to [inaudible] these procedures. We monitor climate. Our climate set points are 60 [inaudible] degrees Fahrenheit, plus or minus 2 degrees. So, this is about 21 degrees Centigrade. And 45% RH, plus or minus 5. Non-ideal climates are physically and chemically damaging to textiles, but also provide climates in which [inaudible]. And we manage the museum's IPM program, Integrated Pest Management. For textiles, we worry about moths and various domestic beetles, but also the same pests which are threats to paper collections, which is [inaudible]. In influencing our IPM program, we mainly focus on prevention. We monitor collection spaces, placing blender traps, which are collected and analyzed by conservation [inaudible]. We work to improve our building envelope, caulking baseboards, operating door gasketry and sweeps. So, we've beefed up our hardware skills quite a lot. We examine, seal, and isolate all incoming [inaudible] as well, as well as storage materials. We have a robust housekeeping program, acting in collection holding spaces on a monthly rotation, with deeper cleans twice a year. The preventatively freezes all incoming collections objects, as well as housing materials, shop merchandise, and education materials. We have a walkthrough freezer at our storage site, which you see on the right, and a walk-in freezer at our downtown location, which you see on the left, both of which operate at negative 33 degrees [inaudible]. And we anoxically process collection objects which cannot be frozen. We have a small nitrogen-based system which humidifies [inaudible]. We also standardize object housing types. Train staff and students on these procedures, and undertake object rehousing. Much [inaudible] Department. [Inaudible] housing types helps us compact our storage footprint and ensures objects are housed in a reproducible way. We set requirements for exhibition, limiting light exposure to 50 Lux, ideally limiting display duration of six months, and taking [inaudible] stages to reduce, if not eliminate, object handling. And we examine, treat, and prepare objects for exhibit. In terms of treatment, our most common treatments are stitch support [inaudible] and humidification, but we also incorporate localized [inaudible] treatments. A piece of [inaudible] treatments [inaudible], but the latter grouping is less frequent these days. And we tend to display textiles in these manners, flat or angled on walls. Often this requires personnel lifts for larger objects. Angled or flat on opened platforms. We try to have objects behind acrylic as much as possible. And we've developed methods to create acrylic standoffs, which is what you see there [inaudible] for rather large objects [inaudible] cases. We try to avoid stitching where possible, even when objects are displayed on the wall. At the top left is a pressure mount, where a fragmentary archaeological textile is immobilized without the need for stitching. A pin mount at the top right, for textiles too thin or distended to bear a stitched hanging mechanism we found with insect pins. We also have quite a lot of dimensional display. At the bottom left, we display costume on interior at the [inaudible] supports. And costume on anodized aluminum T-stands as well, or dress forms. And that's a brief summary of what we do and what our take is on textile care. [Inaudible] reference and context for the discussions today on paper objects which contain [inaudible]. >> Charlotte Giles: Thank you so much, Maria for your presentation. That was wonderful. I realize that we are at time, but we have so many wonderful questions in the chat. So, I'm going to go ahead and pass the power of the questions over to Jon, and I'm going to share a slide -- a resting slide. So, Jon, take it away. >> Jonathan Loar: Sure. Thank you so much, Charlotte, and thank you everybody for a lot of just absolutely a feast for the eyes and so many wonderful materials that only just really scratch the surface of what the Library of Congress has and all of its different divisions. So, we've got a lot of questions. Some are more conservator-based. Some are more kind of librarian and collections-based, so we'll try to get to a couple different ones. So, one question, "Is it often a problem that dyed fabrics affect the paper text that they are next to? What kinds of problems do you run into with fabric affecting paper?" And that one was asked during Yasmeen's presentation. >> Yasmeen Khan: Well, we -- I personally haven't seen many cases where a good quality cotton or silk or linen, affects the paper next to it. Sometimes the dyes do, but even that [inaudible]. What we did see in the scrapbook with the air balloons, that the resin coating the cloth, affected the paper that was adjacent to it. So, it's often the -- actually cloth is good. The fabric is good. The dyes are good quality. We don't see that much damage to the paper. Sometimes the paper affects the cloths adversely. The paper is highly acidic. And that's the case. I think Maria might have much more insight into this. >> Maria Fusco: Yes. I was trying to think of -- you know, our collection does increasingly have paper and paper-like objects. I have not seen a lot, as you were saying Yasmeen, of the other way around of textiles affecting the paper so much, as is vice versa in past experiences. Yes, where something may be framed and there's a paper [inaudible] in the back that ages and -- as it yellows, it's chemically damaging to the textiles. But no, I've not seen too much the other way around either. We do see dye bleed sometimes. I've seen certainly other components affect textiles. So, one interesting phenomenon is if glass beads corrode, their surface products, the degradation products tend to be alkaline and they can change the color of dyed textiles. I've seen that happen, which is interesting. So, it is an interesting phenomenon just how much mixed media objects -- aspects can affect each other or not. Maybe we've been fortunate so far. >> Jonathan Loar: Okay, I'm going to jump to a question here about our collections at both institutes. So, "Are there any fabric collections that highlight history, stories, or documents and design instead of written documents? I'm thinking of First Nations Wampum belts, and other things that would document agreements, historical stories, and the like." >> Eiichi Ito: Hi, Jon. I think some of the materials [inaudible] either have samples of Japanese textile, and it's not necessarily [inaudible] studies of the history of Japanese textile, but I've seen some. Unfortunately, I cannot tell the type of those books. But yes. >> Maria Fusco: I think in the geography and math division, correct me Charlotte, there's some maps from Thailand with -- that sort of tell stories with embroidered people and landscapes, and actually [inaudible] in many cases. I think you saw those when you were preparing for the symposium. >> Charlotte Giles: Yes. Can you hear me? Okay, yes those are the Hmong People Cloth Story Maps, and we have four of those. And I think -- so, one of them is -- depicts Laos, and I'm trying to remember where else, because those -- I'll have to refer to my colleague, by Southeast Asian colleagues, in the Asian Division is anyone is interested in those. They're absolutely lovely, in four different colors. And stitched by Hmong refugees. If you are interested in those, please feel free to reach out to me via email or through the Ask a Librarian Service, and I will be able to put you in touch with the Southeast Asian reference specialists in the Asian Division. >> Jonathan Loar: And Yasmeen and Charlotte, as you were talking it reminded me, that I believe Joshua wrote a fantastic blog on these pieces here just a couple months ago. So, I'm going to put that into the chat for everyone. And this is also an opportunity to mention that we have the Library of Congress Four Corners of the World Blog, which has weekly content from Hispanic, European, African, Middle Eastern, and Asian Divisions, and our colleague Joshua wrote on these Hmong story maps, all of which are in Geography and Map Division, and all of which are digitized online for everyone's enjoyment. So, let's see. I'll move on to-- . >> Maria Fusco: Can I add one thing real quick? >> Jonathan Loar: Yes, yes, of course. >> Maria Fusco: I don't, from the Textile Museum, I don't have a definitive answer to that question, but I'm happy to put you in touch with my [inaudible]. So, my impression, and none of these objects have passed my table in my time here, was that yes, a certain number of our textiles from India, and South Asia, many of them have a story of [inaudible] components. I can't point to specific examples. They've not passed my table, I've been here. But if anyone's interested in finding out more, I'm glad to reach out to our [inaudible] staff too, because I'm pretty sure we do have some examples. >> Kathy Woodrell: And this is Kathy. I would just like to add that there are some all-fabric artist books in the Rare Book and Special Collections Division. And in addition, one of the hooked rugs that Yasmeen showed, is actually from a collection that's owned by the American Folklife Center, and it's a series of hooked rugs that do tell a story. Several of them tell a story. So, just to add that. >> Jonathan Loar: Okay, so we've got a pair of questions here for Dan, and your presentation about the Yongle Encyclopedia. So, first part of -- well, one of the questions is, "What adhesive or adhesives did you use on the Yongle Encyclopedia to put the silk back down?" And also, "What colorants did you use to tone the handmade paper that you used for the encyclopedia volume? >> Dan Paterson: So, for the first part, we used two adhesives. Primarily wheat starch paste, which is a very [inaudible] adhesive in book conservation and paper conservation. We like its working properties, and we are quite certain that the silk was originally put down with a starch paste to begin. So, it seemed sympathetic to follow up with that. We did in some cases also use Lascaux 498 which is an acrylic adhesive, also widely used in book and paper conservation. And it sort of just depended on the conditions and the conservators' choice when deciding between those two adhesives. And as for colorants, we used [inaudible] acrylic paint to tone the paper. Acrylic paints are very stable. Would have a long history of good properties, and good working properties. And so, used acrylic paints, thinned down with water, to a really sort of fluid consistency. And they were either airbrushed -- it was either airbrushed or dipped [inaudible]. >> Jonathan Loar: And we've also got some questions about either instructional resources or kind of best practices. So, for example one question was, "If we have vintage books or pamphlets at home that include inlaid textiles, such as fabric, yarn samples, things like that, what would be the best way for amateurs to store them?" And just in general, "Are there any kind of instructional resources available for how to take care of such materials in people's personal antique or heirloom collections?" >> Dan Paterson: I guess I can start out with that and if Maria and Yasmeen will jump in, that's great. So, I think we are probably all very big on housing. So, any kind of enclosure that you can provide for the book is a great way to protect it from light damage and from dust and from accidentally falling or being knocked about. Certainly, if there are concerns about -- if there are textile samples in the book and we're concerned about the textile affecting paper, you could consider interleaving, and that also kind of puts the binding at risk. So, we wouldn't always necessarily recommend that. And then, as far as tutorials or sort of jumping off points, I would recommend the -- going to the American Institute of Conservation. Their home page has some information about conservation as a field, and also finding aids for consulting with conservators and things like that. And that might be a good starting point for gathering information about taking care of your personal collections. >> Maria Fusco: Yes, I -- Maria here. I just -- I agree with everything Dan said. I think Yasmeen may have shared a link to Tallace [phonetic] maybe earlier? I thought I saw that [inaudible]. That's a great company out of Brooklyn and [inaudible]. We purchase a lot of [inaudible] clamshell boxes, or [inaudible] boxes with them, for storage of sample books. And they're at a great price point. Very stably made. So, I agree with Dan to be -- I'm always kind of [inaudible] to people about the massive benefit [inaudible] good storage. Just putting something in a box, buffers it climatically as well. So, [inaudible]. It also may not be controlled for humidity if you put it in a box. You'd be surprised at how much that levels out just the [inaudible]. So, most people ask us about interleaving as well. I've seen examples where we use it and where we don't. Dan makes a good point that sometimes if you're putting too much interleaving in, it thickens -- it bulks up the book, so to speak. So, a long as the book [inaudible] agitated or moved around, there's probably not to be a lot of sort of you know, abrasion, so to speak. But if you were worried, you could interleave with -- you know, we could use glass [inaudible]. We've used [inaudible] tissue. Nonbuffered, but buffered is a little more alkaline and that can hurt silk and wool. But again, Tallace was a good resource for those kind of things. >> Yasmeen Khan: Also, put in the website for the American Institute of Conservation into the chat. Just one caveat about interleaving is, as you noticed, I showed a picture of the illuminated manuscript with the silk, green silk, used as an interleaving. Sometimes the interleaving can get folded or creased, and then you know, you add -- instead of being something that ends up protecting [inaudible], it ends up damaging what you want to protect. So, that's why I think all the conservators here -- they conserve to [inaudible]. >> Dan Paterson: Well, said. >> Maria Fusco: Yes, and our textiles, when we're rolling them, we no longer put interleaving in when we're rolling either, for much of the same reasons. So, we shy away from interleaving as a class, more and more. >> Yasmeen Khan: Good to know. >> Jonathan Loar: And we've got one question that I think everybody has an experience with here, both librarians and conservators. So, the question was asking about, "How the conservation plan in general works [inaudible]? Or do conservators you know, just work on an item as long as it's needed?" And I think that's something that we can maybe begin with getting the Library of Congress perspective, and then also getting the Textile Museums perspective, too. >> Dan Paterson: Yasmeen, do you want to start? >> Yasmeen Khan: Sorry, Jon. I was reading the chat and I blanked out on the question [inaudible]. >> Jonathan Loar: No, that's okay. So, it's -- a question is asking about, like kind of what a conservation plan looks like at the Library of Congress, in terms of you know, how much time is usually allotted for items, or maybe how many items are worked on at one particular time? How long particular items take? If some take more or less? You know, just kind of how that process works. >> Yasmeen Khan: So, we have a pretty large conservation division. We have about all told, maybe 40 -- 35 people who work on items. Actually now, because we ingested another section. But [inaudible] conservators. And so, every -- we liaise with the [inaudible] divisions of the library, of which there are 12. And discuss what their conservation needs are for that year. And we work with them in teams of [inaudible] people. And then we bring in the work we do [inaudible]. It's a treatment, minor treatments, research, analysis, [inaudible] the items that the custodial divisions ask us to work on, are priorities for them. And we try to sit all the 12 custodial divisions priorities into our workflow [inaudible]. And after we get all these priorities, we meet as a management team and decide what is it that we can accomplish that year. And some treatments go on for a couple of years, as we -- depending on how complex they are. So, we don't one size fits all. It really is who we have available, what the priorities of the divisions are, the custodial divisions, and those also change during the year. They might have something that it's a very high priority in September, but by January, they've acquired something else, or actually [inaudible] for June, and they're like, "We want this done. Can you take the other stuff off for this?" And then Dan can talk a little bit about how once an object comes to a conservators desk, how they prioritize that. >> Dan Paterson: Yes, I would just say that we do tend to work on -- we'll have several projects at once. Oftentimes, you reach a stopping point, and something will need to dry, or you know, there'll be a natural break in the project, and at that point, we might shift to another project, and then come back to the first project at a later time. But, yes, projects can be fairly quick in you know, sometimes a few weeks, or they can go on you know, for many months. It really just depends on the level of intervention that's needed and [inaudible] discussions of the curator, things of that nature. >> Maria Fusco: And our museum, we operate very much in an exhibition-oriented manner. So, all of the objects we treat are generally [inaudible] for near term exhibition. And we're a smaller staff. We're three conservators, [inaudible] every year between 80 and 200 textile objects. Oftentimes our treatment is for a [inaudible] object is very much oriented on what [inaudible] exhibit next. We work on exhibits several years out. So, our lab right now is working on exhibits open in 2021, 2022. And each exhibit can take between 6 to 12 months to prepare. Our object work varies, as does the Library of Congress. Some things are very brief treatments. Some things need no treatment at all. Some are rather substantial. So, we may have something that just takes an hour or two of work. Other projects take 40, 50, 60 hours of treatment. And what we layer in, is not just treatment and exhibition work, there's also mount work for each exhibit. So, that takes a very large part of the pie. And we do a lot of preventive care as well. So, rehousing the [inaudible] as they come in. Environmental monitoring and things like that. So, we're using [inaudible] which is one good aspect of that. But yes, a lot of our work is also project management. Just because a lot of that is around each exhibit is a bit of a production and a project in and of itself. So, we [inaudible] from [inaudible], but we get a fair amount of treatment in there too. >> Jonathan Loar: Alright. I turn it back over to you, Charlotte, or do we have another comment? Sorry? >> Eiichi Ito: Yes, the priority is a very big issue for us, of the conservator. There are many books, for example, [inaudible] collection has more than about 6,000 titles, and to take care of them all, it's really a challenge. And then priority, what is the priority? To serve the people who come to use? That's conservation [inaudible] probably is completely different from [inaudible]. So that's always the [inaudible], which has the top priority or [inaudible]. >> Charlotte Giles: Alright. Thank you so much everyone for attending this session. I just have a few words that I'd like to say before we conclude. We hope that you'll continue your involvement by following the library's international collections on Facebook, and its Four Corners of the World Blog that Jonathan mentioned before. Through these online platforms, we are able to share more information with you all about little known resources from across the world, such as you saw today. For example, our most recent blog is a series of beautifully illustrated maps, depicting a 19th Century Chinese emperor's pilgrimage to a Buddhist mountain. This blog was written by Jeffrey Wang, a Chinese reference specialist in the Asian Division. We also have the blog that -- the blog post that was put in the chat, specifically about the Hmong's Cloth Story Maps that are with the Geography and Maps Division. For most posts highlighting moments in history through materials at the Library of Congress, please follow us. And for more questions, please reach out to us through Ask a Librarian. For questions for Maria Fusco at the Textile Museum, please use that email that was on the previous slide with -- that will take you to her. The Asian Reading Room is where users can request Asian language vernacular language materials. The Reading Room and physical campus of the Library of Congress remains closed right now, due -- to the public, during the pandemic until further notice, but we are still working to bring you access to the materials that you need for your work. Users can ask reference questions through Ask a Librarian. You may request interlibrary loan, electronic items through your local libraries. So please, feel free to reach out to us in whatever way suits you. And thank you again for a really, really fascinating panel of discussions, and our panel presentations and discussions. And we hope that you will keep up those discussions by reaching out to us and the Textile Museum at the George Washington University. Thank you.