>> Laurie Allen: Okay. I'm going to get started. Once again, welcome to the Connecting Communities Digital Initiative Grant for Libraries, Archives, and Museums Informational Webinar. All right. Starting off with some housekeeping. This webinar is being recorded, and we plan to post the recording online We ask that you please post questions in the Q and A feature in Zoom. So there's a chat feature and a Q and A feature. And we ask that you post questions in Q and A so we can keep track of which ones we've answered. And we also ask that you just post all the questions that you have in the Q and A so we can -- if we don't get to them during the call, we'll be able to post answers on the blog. And we'll talk about that more later. So please do use the Q and A feature of Zoom. I'm one of the hosts. My name is Laurie Allen. I work in the Digital Strategy Directorate in the Office of the Chief Information Officer at the Library of Congress. And I'm joined by colleagues Sahar Kazmi -- wow -- Eileen -- sorry, Eileen -- Eileen Jakeway Manchester, and Hope O'Keeffe. Sahar, Eileen, and I work in the Office of the Chief Information Officer and Hope works in the Office of General Counsel for the library. So once again, welcome, and we will get started. The webinar is being recorded. So in this hour, we are going to cover an overview of the Of the People program, a bit of -- more information about the Connecting Communities Digital Initiative. And then we're going to focus -- spend the majority of the time focusing on the Libraries, Archives, and Museums grant opportunity, talking about how to apply. We'll talk about a couple of examples for inspiration. And then a bulk of the time addressing questions that come up to the extent that we can, and when we can't, following up with the questions and answers online. So I'll also mention the future webinars and future opportunities. So to provide a little bit of context, Of the People: Widening the Path is a multi-year initiative that creates new opportunities for more Americans to engage with the Library of Congress and to add their perspectives to the library's collections, allowing the national library to share a more inclusive American story. Of the People was made possible by a $15 million, four-year gift from the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation grant. A four-year grant from the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation. The program has three programmatic arms. There's the Internships and Fellowships program, the American Folklife Center, and then the Digital Strategy Directorate, which I'll talk about in a second. And I'm mentioning these because this is year one of the Of the People grant. We're currently in year one. So the opportunities that I'm describing from the Connecting Communities Digital Initiative, which I will probably call CCDI from now on, is one-third of the program, but everything you're going to see is going to be offered over and over again over the next several years as part of this four-year Mellon grant. So this is the first year that we're offering these opportunities, a couple of which have already closed, but they'll reopen again in future years. So the two arms of the program that we are not representing here today include the Internships and Fellowships program, which offers grants, including the Archives, History, and Heritage Advanced Internship Program. That started before we got the grant as a collaboration between Howard University and the Library of Congress. But thanks to the Mellon Foundation, it has really broadened its reach beyond that one partnership. As well as the Junior Fellows Program, which has an ongoing program, over 30 years. And the Mellon grant allows that program to expand the ways that it approaches the work and the number of opportunities. Both of those are part of a suite of internship and fellowship opportunities which are available through the library's website and on the link right there. The second of the three parts to the Of the People grant is run by the American Folklife Center. Their program will fund a Community Collections grant program. So the American Folklife Center also opened a grant opportunity which has now closed. They will open it again in the next year. But their grant program is about building collections here and in communities. And it draws on, you know, many decades at the American Folklife Center of supporting ethnographic research in communities, and ethnographic research, otherwise known as cultural documentation. So their grant program entails public participation in the creation of archival collections seeking to support contemporary cultural documentation focusing on the culture and traditions of diverse and often underrepresented communities in the United States. So their program is all about supporting cultural documentations from communities of their own community practices and perspectives. So their first round of funding has closed for the year, but they will have another round of funding next year. And they are funding 10 grants generally, or they did this year. I expect they will next year fund 10 grants in that program. In addition to the funding, AFC, the American Folklife Center, will offer training in cultural documentation methods, interviews, photography, that kind of thing as well as in the preparation and management of digital files. So that's -- those are the two-thirds of the program that we are not here to talk about today. And each one of them comes out of an existing department in the Library of Congress, right. Internships and Fellowships and American Folklife Center have been around for a long time. The Connecting Communities Digital Initiative is a brand-new initiative. But within the Digital Strategy Division, it's drawn on and inspired by the work of LC Labs. And I really encourage you to go check out the kinds of work that LC Labs has been doing innovating with technology in the ways that people can connect with the library's materials. So they've done things like incubating the library's first crowdsourcing program, By the People. They have currently -- they've worked with innovators and residents, that is, digital artists or artists who use technology to explore uses of the library's materials in brand-new and really exciting ways. So I really encourage you to take a look at their programs. And you'll see how much the Connecting Communities Digital Initiative, as a separate initiative, is drawing on the work that they've been doing in innovative uses of technology to engage with the collections. So that brings us to the Connecting Communities Digital Initiative. As I said, certainly inspired by the work of labs and building on that work. And also, a large part of the impetus for this project comes from the recognition that right now, people around the country are exploring and engaging with the histories of their own communities, especially around the experiences of people whose perspectives have not always been at the center of mainstream historical record because of their race or because of their ethnicity. People, especially black people, indigenous people, Asian Americans, Hispanic and Latino people, and members of other communities of color are building and sharing collections that document a broad, deep, and diverse American history. And of course, here at the library, we have the largest collection in the world. And we've been digitizing those collections and collecting digital materials. We've been digitizing books and letters, recordings, papers, maps, images, photographs, prints, newspapers, and many other kinds of material and making those materials available online and findable. So there we -- that's where we get to the Connecting Communities Digital Initiative, represented here by these many, many lines. It's designed to help all of these communities of collectors, re-collectors, curators, and remixers make use of the wonderful treasure trove of materials we have at the Library of Congress to help us see them in new ways and understand the broad histories that they tell. So that's the Connecting Communities Digital Initiative. To give you a sense of the program overview, what will the program be as it is up and running? Well, one thing is that I work in digital strategy, and this program will actually be run by a group of staff for the four years of the program, who we have already posted and closed the program director position. But there will be three other additional positions opening up for -- to work within the program and manage it in the next months ahead. So it will include staff positions within the library to support the program and to make sure that its impact is lasting as well as summer student internship opportunities for summer students to work remotely on projects that do the same work that the values of the program hold, but from their own communities. It will also support an artist-in-residence or scholar-in-residence grant program. That grant is currently open, and I'll talk about it in another moment. And then two grants, of which this is one, that support higher education, that support digital projects. One of them is for higher education institutions, and one of them is this one, the Libraries, Archives, and Museums grant. I want to say just a moment more about the artist- and scholar-in-residence because it's an exciting program, and I hope that some of you will help spread the word about it as it is brand new. This is a two-year fellowship or, sorry, a two-year grant. This is a two-year grant. In the first year, the grantee will get 50,000 dollars, and in the second year, 100,000 dollars. And we're funding someone who is -- who we hope will help us explore the ways that technology, the library, and the memory communities can be transformed by welcoming unheard voices. And I hope that you'll check out that opportunity as well and help share about it because I think it has a lot of capacity to do some really impactful public work. There's also the grant for higher education institutions, with up to 60,000 supporting the development of digital interfaces, publication, exhibitions, or experimental approaches to bringing digital Library of Congress material with a course program or interest group that will make use of the product for educational purposes at these two- or four-year higher education institutions. There are webinars available for those programs in particular that are coming up, and I hope to see you at some of those. And finally, here we are at this grant, the grant for Libraries, Archives, and Museums. It is up to 60,000 dollars to support -- sorry. I now see a typo -- to support local cultural heritage organizations by enabling storytelling across a range of platforms. The purpose is to design and implement digital projects, that is, exhibits, interfaces, multimedia productions, or publications, that use digital materials from the Library of Congress to engage black, indigenous, or other community members of color. And for the rest of the time, I'm going to talk about that opportunity. But everything I'm going to say and more is available in the one place that I hope that you will all go to actually learn about this program, which is the Notice of Funding Opportunity. And I'm going to call it a NOFO because I -- I'm just telling you that right now because that's how I -- I now have used the word NOFO so many times. It is the Notice of Funding Opportunity, the NOFO, which contains all the information that's necessary to apply. It is -- I strongly encourage you to read the NOFO entirely. And as questions come up, the first place I'm going to look for the answers is to the Notice of Funding Opportunity itself, which is where we record everything that you really need to know in order to apply for the program. That said, we have more information. And we're trying to make it as easy as possible for folks, especially for whom this might be the first time applying for a federal grant, and it might feel like there's a lot to it. We're trying to make it as easy as possible. And in that light, I really hope that you'll bring questions, ask the questions. Even if the answer is in the NOFO, we still want to hear the questions because we really want to make this process as straightforward and easy as possible. And, you know, this is a federal grant process, which means there are a lot of rules about how it's done. And we want to make sure that we're in keeping with all of those, we have made sure. But we know that that can make it a kind of overwhelming process. So I'm really hoping that -- I'm going to walk through what the process is and that you'll bring questions as they go. So the Of the People: Widening the Path blog on the library's website has a post that's sticky. It sticks at the top. It's always there. That will be all the live funding opportunities, including this one. From there, you can see that there's a page for this grant in particular. And it gives an overview of the grant. It talks about how to apply and what the important dates are. It kind of -- it's going to do some of what I do in this webinar to talk about what parts of the Notice of Funding Opportunity should you read extra closely and many times to make sure that you're, you know, seeing them, because it's written in a way that's a little hard to see, and then also link -- extra links for the federal systems and the forms that you need to use. There's not an endless number, and I'm going to talk to you about it. It's a pretty -- it's actually quite a manageable process. So there is -- this link at the bottom here that I have highlighted in yellow is linked all over that page. As you go down the page, it will say, "Visit the notice on grants.gov. Click on related documents and download all forms." So we have to host the forms on grants.gov. And when you click that link, you'll go to this page. And as you see in the link, it says, "And click on related documents." So that's the place where the grants can actually be downloaded and the related documents, the budget form, et cetera. There's only -- it's just the grant and the budget form. So that's available from this Related Documents tab in grants.gov. That is where you get the official Notice of Funding Opportunity. And it looks like this. It's a very long PDF. And it is organized in a way to really help you understand. So you can look at the table of contents in the Notice of Funding Opportunity and get a pretty good sense of where you need to look for an answer to a question, or of course you could just contact us and we'll answer it as well. The first section of the notice gives you the program descriptions. So as it says, "Projects funded through this program will use items from across the library's digital collections and may describe, display, remix them, in keeping with copyright and other laws, in whatever ways are most valuable in their own context. For this grant, technology can be used in simple or in complex ways, and successful applicants may develop new technologies or may make use of existing platforms, tools, or approaches, such as social media platforms or multimedia productions. The important factor in a successful project is the connections it enables in communities and the impact of the project on its creators, users, and audience." So that's in Section A, where we talk -- the beginning. It's just a description of the program. Section A.3 talks about the expectations and deliverables. What do you need to make as a part of this grant? You need to make some digital project that I just described. We're going to ask you to write a blog post. We'll ask that you write a blog post. I think, you know, we hope. You are welcome to but not required to participate in a symposium. That -- if you want to come to DC for the symposium, assuming it takes place in person, you can include a budget request. In your budget, you can include travel to DC for the grant for the -- for in the summer of 2022 to take part in the symposium. But participation in the symposium is also online. We'll make sure that you're able to participate online if you want to do that. And you also need to use materials according to the law. And we're going to ask for a little bit of documentation of the project as we go. So that's basically the expectations that we hope to see. Okay. Section D. This is where most of the information in the Notice of Funding Opportunity is about. What does the application need to look like? What are you actually putting together when you apply? And I think I copied this table because this table is designed to make it really, really easy. What do you need to do? You need to have -- you need to request a DUNS number. You need to write a proposal narrative. And the way you do that is you copy and paste the outline provided in the NOFO, right. You need to do a budget plan and a budget narrative. And then there is a required form, the 424 Short Organizational, as well as submitting the package via email. So grants.gov is a place that lots of people apply for grants. It is not what we use at the Library of Congress. When you apply you apply, through this email. You send an email with your whole package. So this table is a really place to return -- good place to return to as a kind of checklist as you're putting together your application. And it's -- and all of Section D is sort of -- you know, you'll need as you go through this. Section D.5 talks about specifically the content and the format of the application. So, for example, what's in a proposal narrative? A proposal narrative is limited to eight pages. It needs to have sections, like a cover page, a description of your organization, and we say in section D.5 what that description should look like. Key project staff and consultants. If you don't know their names, you just describe the work that they'll need to do and what they'll need to be able to do it. And then a description of past activities and a detailed description of the project. So how -- what project are you going to do? That includes, you know, digital exhibit, interface, multimedia production, or publication. That's designed to be really, really wide. The point is, the important thing is you're using digital library materials from the Library of Congress, remixing, re-curating, re-imagining to engage with members of communities -- members of color. So that's the kind of what we want. The technology is important, but the -- it's important in service of the connections. Okay. Section D.5 talks about the budget narrative and the budget plan worksheet. So those are two different things. There's a worksheet, and then there's a narrative where you talk through why the numbers in the spreadsheet are needed, just what are you going to do with the money. And you just put it in two different places. One is a spreadsheet, and one is a narrative. And there's this required form. You can see it's called the Short Organizational. It's designed to just give sort of legal information about the organization that's applying. And once again, this is how to apply. I know we get this question a lot about how to -- "I can't get in through grants.gov." So you're not applying through grants.gov. You apply through LOC-grants@loc.gov via email, emailing your application materials. Okay. So we're almost halfway through time. And we'll see what questions are there. I will say again this webinar is being recorded for later access. And these support documents. So what we'll -- we will post this webinar, and as we get questions, you see there it says email questions to LOC-grants@loc.gov. When you email questions -- oh, I should have put this on the list. I am sorry. I'll have to fix this in the chat in a moment. There is a grant number which is on both the website and the NOFO, but the website's the easiest place to find it. There's like what opportunity number is this. And it's very helpful if you put the opportunity number in the subject of the email. And I'm really sorry that I did not put that on the slide. But if you don't, we'll figure it out. In either case, email your questions to LOC-grants@loc.gov. We have a weekly update schedule. So we will -- you know, all the questions we receive in a week, we bundle together and then answer them, post those answers on that same grant website on the blog every -- by the middle of the next week. So later today, I will post the answer to the one question that was asked last week. So please do send your questions there so that we can -- this is our first time doing this. We're going to offer, you know, 18 more grants, three in each year for the next three years, and two programs. I'm not going to do the math for you, but I think that's right. So we really want to know what questions you have, what things don't make sense so that we can make this process smoother every single year. Okay. So before I turn to the Q and A's, I did want to spend just a moment giving a couple examples of the kinds of things that we had in mind. This I can't be more -- I can't say more strongly that these examples are meant for inspiration and not to limit what you imagine. If you work anywhere in a context where you're doing this kind of work and you have an idea, chances are it's a great idea. These are meant for inspiration, not to exclude or to limit your imagination. But we did have some things in mind, like, "Wouldn't it be cool if someone did x?" So we're going to offer those as ideas just to give you some sense of what might be cool and to maybe put this into context a little more. So, for example, if a local community archive had already been gathering oral histories from neighbors using grant funds, to match the, you know, using -- or with whatever resources they had that what we might like to do is help match those oral histories with digitized historical maps, telephone directories, and newspapers from that area. Or potentially a historical association was creating a collection of historical photographs from the Library and local collections, mixing the resources that our -- the American peoples' held at the Library of Congress and those that are the American peoples' held locally or that our communities held locally and crowdsource the identification of people or locations and include more stories. You know, I should mention -- I don't think I've said it so far -- the Library is not hosting or collecting these projects. These are designed to live in the community, serve the communities in which they live. We'll point to them and talk about them and be excited about them, but these are not going to become hosted on the Library's site nor part of the Library's collections. That is not our intention. But here are a couple more examples. So let's say a documentary filmmaker working with a local museum collects visual or manuscript materials from the Library's collections relating to a particular community and incorporates histories and verbal traditions from community members into a film. So that's digital materials from the Library's collections together with the experiences of community members into a film, which is a digital output. Or a family historian at a local historical society traces a family's history through the use of Library newspapers, manuscripts, and photograph collections combined with local collections. You kind of -- I hope you're kind of getting a sense of where [inaudible]. These are two final examples, and then I will turn it over to questions. I like -- this was -- I -- this was one that was -- that I'm excited about for some reason, that I really love: The idea of a small house museum that maybe is the museum for a particular person creates a lightweight digital exhibit for their gallery to showcase the ways that Library of Congress materials and materials from their own collection complement and focus so that -- you know, we have so much in the Library of Congress. And we -- so, you know, getting that into -- as a draw for community museums would be great. Or a public library that's been maintaining a local database that speaks to the history of the local immigrant community uses grant funding to expand the resource by including Library of Congress materials that speak to the history of that community across the country, right, making its -- picturing those lines, that's really what we're looking for, is all those lines back and forth. So I'm going to leave it there and see -- I'm going to just take a second and check on the chat and the Q and A's and see if we can get to any. So I'm seeing just to say, Sahar, exactly what you said, the -- that in the -- that subject line is exactly right. Thank you. Okay. The Q and A's. Please send an email. Okay. So I see a question here about the artist-in-residence or scholar-in-residence program. And I'm going to do a webinar. We're going to do -- the same crew is going to do a webinar about the artist and scholar -- artist- or scholar-in-residence program coming up in a couple of weeks. Maybe next week. I think it's next Thursday and -- or maybe next Wednesday. And it says, "Is the two-year program an automatic renewal?" It's a two-year grant. So the grant is for two years. So we need an interim report for that grant, just like we need for this one, but it is a two-year grant. The -- another question here is -- okay -- is, "How many grants are being awarded for this year?" So in this year, we -- for the Libraries, Archives, and Museums program, we only expect to award a single grant. In future years -- in future years, we will be awarding more awards for this program or we anticipate awarding more for this program. But in this year, we only anticipate awarding one question. I mean -- sorry. Sorry. One grant. Okay. I see another question here. "Are local, regional, or national scale proposals more likely to be competitive? So are we going to need to focus on general underserved and underrepresented communities, or can we do a focus on more specialized aspects of our communities in diaspora, GLBTQIA, people with accessibility disparities or non-traditional experiences of our diaspora, such as transcultural adoption, et cetera?" Thank you for that question. So I don't think I see anything in the -- I have to review in the Notice of Funding Opportunity the ways that we described evaluating proposals. But the impact is one of the factors I believe that we talk about evaluating. You -- they're -- so for the first question, local, regional, or national scale proposals more likely to be competitive, I'm not -- I certainly don't want to say that taking account of impact means, you know, national is better than local. I think a deep local impact is important. But I think that I want to maybe punt on that a little bit because we -- basically, we know that we're going to look at impact. Such a good question. I absolutely can say that you do not need to focus on general underserved or underrepresented communities, that a more specialized aspect is a great answer -- is a great proposal. Okay. Couple more questions here. Sorry. I'm -- >> Sahar Kazmi: Laurie, if you'd like, I can synthesize this next question. >> Laurie Allen: Thank you. >> Sahar Kazmi: Okay. So this person is asking about details about the proposal narrative in the NOFO. So basically, it states that the library's preference is for projects that extend an open license for non-commercial, public use of collections materials, but this applicant would not like their materials to be included in the Library's collections for public use. So is there anything we can say about that? >> Laurie Allen: I'm going to ask our Hope O'Keeffe to jump in here. I think I have an answer for that, but I'd love for Hope to take this one. >> Hope O'Keeffe: Hi. I can't start my video. But it's going to be -- the availability of the information will be a factor in assessing the grant. But the library also understands that culturally -- the notion of culturally-sensitive information. And if the reason that you don't want to share some portions of the information you're collecting is that the community you're working with doesn't want them shared, of course you shouldn't be sharing it. So just make the reasons for not sharing it clear as part of your project. You know, the Library, for example, has huge collections on Native -- of -- on Native American -- of Native American cultural materials that we do not make available online. We would ask, I think, that you determine what level of access is acceptable to you, so, for example, whether or not it would be acceptable for your data to be available just on premises. And of course, as Laurie said earlier, we would very much like you to participate in symposium, blog writings, and other ways to disseminate the knowledge that you're acquiring without compromising the sensitive issues. Is that what you wanted, Laurie? >> Laurie Allen: That is perfect. Thank you, Hope. I hope that answered the question. I don't see more questions at the moment. And I want to just leave this space open for folks who may have them. This is a great time to pose questions that -- anything that comes to mind. >> Sahar Kazmi: You mentioned earlier about submitting the application directly to loc.gov or the Library via email. Can you speak to why applicants are not able to apply directly through grants.gov? >> Laurie Allen: That's such a good question. I mean, no. Only that like our -- no, I cannot, except that we don't use grants.gov in that way. And so the library doesn't -- I don't know. I don't know the answer. What I do know is that it's not technically possible. And it looks like it kind of could be, so it's a little confusing. Hope, are you unmuting here to give a better answer than "I don't know"? >> Hope O'Keeffe: It's my understanding that grants.gov may be limited to executive branch agencies, but that's speculation, and it's something we should certainly look into and get back to you about. >> Laurie Allen: Yeah. Eileen or Sahar, do you have any other questions that you think people may be curious about that we should answer for them? And everyone who's here, you know, feel free to drop off or to stick around. We as -- we'll stay. We'll be here until the end of the hour. But if there are -- you know, this time is really for you all to ask questions. >> Hope O'Keeffe: I guess I have a question for the attendees. Would it be helpful to have the PowerPoint? >> Eileen Jakeway Manchester: In that same vein, I was going to just reinforce that the link to the blog post that sort of describes -- that gives an overview of this grant opportunity will also be updated, you know, with relevant information. So I think looking there as a starting point for supporting resources would be the best way to kind of get started. I see a lot of yes's, Hope, in the chat. >> Hope O'Keeffe: Part of the issue is that of course the PowerPoint is going to change over time as it adapts in an agile way to the questions that and interest that folks are expressing. >> Laurie, did you see? >> Laurie Allen: Yeah, I just saw this new question. "It was mentioned we need to use LOC materials, but what if there aren't any materials that are relevant to the group of people who would be involved in the grant? Would that hinder the ability to get the grant?" What I would say is that -- what I would say is that it is a requirement of the grant to use LOC materials. I would really encourage folks to take a look at the AFC grant opportunity, which is part of the Of the People program, which is absolutely about documenting communities who are under-documented and making sure that those make it in as well. So, you know, I want to -- I would like to encourage everyone to -- I would like to encourage this person to really dig into the Library's collections and maybe reach out to a reference librarian or someone or, you know, ask a librarian, use the Ask a Librarian service because our collections are really, really, really plentiful and there is so much here. Eileen, did you want to jump in there or were you just saying I was answering it live? >> Eileen Jakeway Manchester: Yes, I was just noting that the question has in fact been answered live. >> Laurie Allen: Okay. >> Eileen Jakeway Manchester: And I will -- I'll be following up in the chat with a link to the Ask a Librarian service that Laurie just mentioned. >> Laurie Allen: Thank you. >> Hope O'Keeffe: Yeah. I guess I want to want to jump in a little bit to say that part of the purposes of this grant is to unlock and ferret out things that are hidden in our collections, including our digital collections. So some of it is we are asking you to make those connections and to find that stuff. And absolutely talk to our reference librarians about how to find it because, you know, we do a great job of digitizing our collections when we can, but we can't really digitize our staff. And that's why we have Ask a Librarian and other services. And they're just wonderful, wonderful reference librarians that you should lean on. >> Eileen Jakeway Manchester: Laurie, there's a question in the chat. And again, just to reinforce, if at all possible, to move your questions into the Q and A feature. That'll help us to be more systematic about answering them. But I did catch this question in the chat about a lot of the communities that this person works with have big education disparities and a high number of independent but non-degreed scholars. Will there be ways that proposals can take that into account when being reviewed? >> Laurie Allen: Absolutely. Absolutely. Thank you for asking that, and I -- yes. I think, you know, we -- well, the -- there is no part of the review criteria that has to do with, you know, degrees as far as I remember. I'm pretty sure that's true. So the way that the evaluation works is how much can you demonstrate that your -- how much can the organization that's applying -- so there does need to be some organization involved. How can -- so it's not -- this is not a grant to individuals. It's a grant to organizations, so they, you know, needing to be nonprofit organizations. How can the organization demonstrate that it is deeply connected with the communities that it serves? And I think there are great, great ways of demonstrating that, I think, that have nothing to do with formal credentials and have everything to do with life experience and experience in community. So I think we would want to see in a grant the ways in which those connections between, you know, the organization and the community that it serves are -- you know, the ways in which -- if members of the community are part of the organization, that is better. That's actually a strength for the organization. That makes the organization look better for this proposal if the organization is -- can demonstrate a deep commitment. Now it doesn't mean that, you know, organizations that are staffed by highly-degreed individuals aren't doing really incredible work in this area and won't be eligible. But I think that focusing on the connection between the organization that's applying and the program and the potential for impact on those communities is what we're looking for. How can the Library of Congress connect with people with whom we might not have had the easiest time connecting in the past, where potentially there have been gaps or, you know, all kinds of ways that the library has been ill-serving communities accidentally or in -- you know, however we're just not -- you know, not been focusing on. I think to the extent to which you can say, "Hey, this is a community for whom this project's going to have a big impact, and this organization is really deeply connected to that community," that's a great message. That's a great application to sort of feature. The -- so there was a question. Are applicants able to apply to multiple grants? So I have to check the Notice of Funding Opportunity on that. I believe applicants can apply to both the AFC and the CCDI opportunities. I believe we don't plan to award multiple grants through the CCDI opportunities to the same organization. So if someone applied as a higher education, I think that was the -- but I actually just need to check. I'm just not 100% sure. We're going to have to post that one on the -- we'll have to post that one on the blog. Sorry. Yeah. Okay. I think we've answered -- it sounds like we've answered all the questions that there are, or if there are more, we welcome them. But otherwise, I think we'll -- perhaps we won't stay on until 4:00, and we'll just call it a day. Oh, there are additional webinars -- sorry -- to mention. There are -- we have the next -- oh, my gosh. Eileen or Sahar, do you have the other webinars in front of you? My screen is taken up by the slide show. >> Sahar Kazmi: The next webinar for Libraries, Archives, and Museums is on Friday, October 15th at 3:00 PM. >> Laurie Allen: Wait. >> Sahar Kazmi: And I can post the registration link for that one here in case anyone wants to check it out. But we'll also include the link to the Libraries, Archives, and Museums blog page so you can stay up to date. >> Laurie Allen: Thank you. And I think, you know, that one, if that's our next webinar, it will be some of the same content. Absolutely. You know, you'll see some of the same overview content for the most part. But I expect that we'll be -- we'll have answered similar questions over and over again, and so we can -- we'll get more questions that are more deeply into the "What is -- how is this form working?" You know, that kind of thing, and hopefully. So feel free to come back for that one as well. Though much of it will be the same, there will probably be some new things. >> Hope O'Keeffe: To clarify, there are also webinars for the other funding opportunities. >> Laurie Allen: Yes. >> Hope O'Keeffe: And you'll see them all. They're all listed on the website. >> Laurie Allen: Yes. Thank you. The higher education grant opportunities have their own set of webinars as well as the artist-in-residence and scholar-in-residence. And so I really hope that you all can check them out and spread the word. And thank you. And keep an eye on the Of the People website because there are kind of a continuing run of opportunities for grants and other opportunities coming up over the next several years. [ Music ]