>> Mari Nakahara: Welcome to today's program. My name is Mari Nakahara and I am curator of architecture design and engineering at the library's Prints and Photographs Division. Today we have a guest speaker, Donna Kacmar. Donna will introduce works by Victor Lundy who would celebrate his 100th birthday on February 1st. He's still alive. Before we get started, I want to mention that we will be answering questions at the end of the presentation. If you have any questions, please put them in Q&A, not in the chat. My colleague, Sara Duke, will be tracking your questions in Q&A so that we can be sure to address them. If you are interested in receiving a PDF of the slides from today's presentation, you can contact us through our Ask a Librarian service. You will see the link in the chat. This program will also be recorded and available in the future on the library's website. Here we are showing a picture of the Library of Congress, Capitol Hill campus, where we have three main buildings. And the red arrow points to where the Prints and photographs division is located in the Madison building. You can see a picture of our reading room on the right. To begin, I would like to briefly introduce the print and photographs division collections as a whole. Prints and Photographs Division holds over 17 million items, visual materials most likely such as photographs, graphic cards and architecture design and engineering collections. This slide showed some examples after I searched keyword US Capital in the Print and Photographs division Online Catalog, we call ppoc, PPOC. As you see, the search results show various types of the materials such as posters, lithographs, gear type photos, and architectural drawings. Most items from the collections were made in the United States and reflects the experiences of Americans, but the collections are also international scope. Here are some Lundy’s example and work, and I put out some slides, but Donna is going to go further and explain what kind of works Victor worked on. It's amazing, for instance, in sketches of the Parthenon and in the middle, you see the Brains book. He called some construction drawings, great pictures and sketches. Donna Kacmar, the editor of this book shown here, is a fellow of the American Institute of Architects, as well as professor at the University of Houston. Donna spent about two years going through the Victor Lundy archive to publish this book. Please finally join me in welcoming Donna. >> Donna Kacmar: Thank you, Mari. I'm thrilled to talk to all of you about the work of Victor Lundy on this celebration of his centennial. Lundy's work, both his drawings and his built work are inspiring to me as an architect. It is truly an honor to have had the privilege to get to know Victor, a treasure, the numerous afternoons I have spent with him talking about architecture and even visiting his architectural archives with him and Mari at the Library of Congress. I was first introduced to Victor Lundy and his lovely and talented wife Anstis Lundy at a dinner party about 20 years ago. These photos are from Victor and Anstis on a train to Venice from 1964. Victor Lundy was born on February 1st, 1923, in New York City, the only son of Russian immigrants. He was known as the school's artist at his 6,000 boy public high school. This drawing of a bull's head was done by Victor when he was just 17 years old. He soon went to New York University on a full scholarship and began to learn about architecture in the Beaux Arts tradition. These sketches are from one of his college courses where there was an emphasis on both drawing and the history of architecture. You might notice he received A's. In December of 1941, Victor enlisted in the Army. He earned advanced acceptance in the Army Specialized Training program ASTP established to produce officers for the reconstruction of war-torn Europe. He was sent to the University of Miami and trained for 18 months. The ASTP was eventually abandoned and all the soldiers in the program suddenly became infantry and were sent to Europe. Victor carried sketchbooks with him and documented the villages and fellow soldiers he saw. Of the 27 sketchbooks he filled, only eight have survived. They are now at the Library of Congress, along with his architectural archive. This sketch was made just 11 days before Victor himself was wounded. On November 12th, 1944, Victor was hit by fire from a German tiger tank. Victor then spent several months at an Army medical center in England, where Dr. Hamburg [inaudible], an orthopedic surgeon from Chicago, noticed his war sketchbooks and managed to keep Victor there, making detailed drawings of surgeries. Victor later spent eight months at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C., before World War Two ended in September. This sketch of his bandaged left hand is from several months earlier, June 12, 1945. Victor continued his architectural education at Harvard, this time learning from Bauhaus masters Walter Gropius and Marcel Breuer. He learned to draw in the modernist style with black ink. Victor graduated from Harvard with both a bachelor's and a master's degree in architecture. Victor applied for and was awarded the Roach Traveling Scholarship by the Boston Society of Architects in 1948. You can see by this letter he beat out Paul Rudolph, who was second place or the first alternate. We know where Victor traveled on the road during those years, those months, because of the detailed letters he wrote back home to his friends and colleagues. So from 1948 July until January 1950, he toured through the towns and countryside, visiting many countries in 18 months of travel that, Victor says, changed his life. This watercolor is from Stockholm in August of 1948. He did many watercolor paintings such as this. Along his travels, this might be his first watercolor that he did. He documented ports or sometimes even small villages at train stops during travel. In fact, Lundy continued to travel and sketch the world around him throughout his life. He later did some oil pastel sketches from his large travel sketchbooks that are also at the Library of Congress and sometimes drawing faces and people. I asked him about this image of the Trevi Fountain in Rome that reappear several times in his sketchbooks. He told me that there was a flat area at just the right height for a sketching pad, and nearby was another flat place to set his oil pastels. Those two things determine the view he would re-examine on many visits. Upon returning from the roach, Lundy became a licensed architect in the state of New York in 1950, and then a project took him to Sarasota, Florida. Christopher Wilson, who's on this call, wrote the chapter in the book about Sarasota. Lundy read the Sarasota Herald Tribune in an article about a church that accommodated mostly elderly people on a wonderful tree filled site. Yet the service was held while everyone was sitting in their cars. Victor soon introduced himself to Pastor Whyte and suggested designing a platform to lift the pastor up in the air so he could be seen by the congregation. Victor designed an inexpensive structure using two by fours and plywood and donated his design services. This pro bono project, the drive in church in Venice, Florida, of 1954 really made Victor's name. The building was featured in Life magazine in April 18, 1955. And in this photo, it is Victor sitting behind the steering wheel of the car. Lundy's drawing skills also brought him his first paid independent Architectural Commission. He entered and won a watercolor competition in Sarasota. When Carl Bickel, one of the jurors of that competition, found out that Victor was also an architect, he asked Victor to do a few sketches for a new Chamber of Commerce building. Victor went to the site with a giant easel and produced four paintings. He was hired. He designed a pavilion with a big sheltering roof for the Sarasota County Chamber of Commerce Building 1956. He also designed the desks and millworks on the interior. Lundy's work has often been described as more roof than walls, and this is certainly true in his first paid commission. Here's a drawing from one of the construction documents showing the wood roof structure extending outward. And this drawing shows his exploration of wood as a building material. At a talk about ten years later, Lundy shared his thoughts on wood. Lundy wrote, “Wood is a living, resilient material. It is totally unlike steel or concrete. It has air in it. It comes mainly from above the earth, not beneath the earth. Wood, by its very , nature, suggest exciting, alive directions in buildings. Just south of Sarasota, he designed a house with an inward focus with private spaces that radiate from the central circular living space. This is the Heron House of Venice, Florida, 1957. And it was actually the curved roof form that came before the plan organization. Lundy kicked up the roof edges, extending the roof overhang, and that sweeping wing shape of laminated beams supports the curving roof that is made of solid wood decking. Ursula Cole and Peter Bartos are the sole shareholders of the real estate development company that now owns the Heron House and renovated the house in 2014. I'm so glad the house continues to be cared for and appreciated. For that same client, Samuel Herron, Victor later designed the Warm Mineral Springs Motel, another structurally innovative building. This building has 75 thin shell mushroom-like concrete forms that were made by a young local contractor. Victor produced the detailed drawings of the formwork required to make those concrete forms. Looking from above, you can see that there's a drainpipe in the middle of the column and that they alternate in height. Lundy called these columns a forest of architectural palms. The checkerboard pattern created by those two alternating column heights allows light to enter the interior of the guestrooms. Lundy designed many churches in the Sarasota area, and an early church is the St Paul's Lutheran Church Fellowship Hall of 1959. Here's an early sketch drawn by Lundy, where the clear articulation of structure is allowed to become expressive and make this dramatic sheltering roof. The building served as a congregation sanctuary when it was first built. In the book, Christopher Damon writes, in Lundy's Fellowship Hall, the wood structural elements rise effortlessly from the masonry peers. The interior space is reminiscent of the inverted hole of a wooden ship graciously sheltering the fellowship. Uninterrupted glazing connects the interior to the north and south porticos. This is one of my favorite images. When looking up at the ceiling, the laminated wood beams appear to weave together, kind of directly connecting the interior to the exterior. And here is the side portico that Damon was referring to. Ten years later, St Paul's Lutheran Church Sanctuary was built 1969. This structure has a more articulated roof structure with this highly engineered cable system. This hybrid trust is composed of a continuous and relatively slender triangular steel ridge beam with eight triangular frames that are spaced at about 18 feet apart. This is not a photograph. This is a drawing produced by Victor in the book for Petrus, the founding director of the Center for Architecture design and Engineering at the Library of Congress, writes, and I quote, “For an exhibition of his and his wife's work shown in Marfa, Texas, in 2006, Lundy produced a remarkable retrospective series of large-scale perspective renderings of selected examples of his earlier work. To represent the sanctuary that he had originally designed in 1969 for St Paul's Lutheran Church, He produced a stunning four-foot by eight-foot carbon pencil and charcoal rendering on heavy paper. In a vision both calm and luminous, even ethereal, Lundy, the artist, poetically conveyed the original intentions that Lundy, the architect, conceived for this structure and space. And yes, you heard right. Four-foot by eight-foot drawing. And this original drawing and several others that were in this exhibition from 2006 are at the Library of Congress. And as you can imagine, it took several scans to get this image. Lundy is certainly known for his religious structures. He also designed community centers and office buildings. And here's an early sketch of the Galloway Furniture showroom from 1959. These early sketches show how Lundy is able to readily convey his ideas to clients. It also shows that he understands his client's needs. I know you can't read it, but the notation that's scribbled up on the upper right reads dull, dark wood, monotone. let furniture sparkle as against black. The Galloway Furniture showroom was a modern furniture showroom, and it was where all the local architects would go to get modern furniture for their photoshoots. The building is currently owned by the Sarasota Museum of Art. Victor Lundy describes this kind of morning glory shape of the laminated redwood arches that are in the center of the building. Here we see those arches under construction. And zooming in, just seeing how the floor meets that central structural form and the mezzanine level appears to kind of be suspended. So Lundy's Sarasota practice was growing and he felt he needed to leave Florida to get the important projects and projects outside of the state. So in 1960, Lundy established an office in New York, but continued working on projects in Sarasota. And we can see by this map that in 1955, all of his buildings were near Sarasota. And just ten years later, he's doing work in the Northeast and in Central US. And not to get too far ahead of us, but in 1975, his work expands again. And then in 1985, down at the bottom left, that's Sri Lanka. That's not its real location. But he did the US embassy in Sri Lanka, so his work did expand over vast geography. So he moves to New York and one of the first projects in the New York City area was the West Point Unitarian Church, 1961. Seen here is one of his really beautiful drawings as colored pencil on brown craft paper. Here, this section shows this long wood laminated beams that support this curved roof that rises upward dramatically, 65 feet above the floor of the sanctuary. There's a continuous glass skylight that really holds the tension between the two halves of the roof. And here, this is not a -- I mean, this is kind of a construction photo, but the congregation was faced with a limited budget and somehow Victor convinced his clients to build the roof first. So worship services were held open air on this earth and floor under this dramatic roof until funds could be raised by this brave congregation four years later, when they could afford to enclose the building. Here, you see it from above with snow. So we know it got cold in the area. Also in New York is the I Miller Shoe Store and this drawing of a sleeping Buddha from southern India from one of his travel sketches. And it served as the inspiration for that shoe store. We can also look at one of his many brain’s books. These 8.5 by 11 black hardbound sketchbooks in which he notes various things and here is noting his intention to cut through the structural baize on the second floor to make this 35-foot entry space. This dramatic entry is only hinted at through the large glass windows on this facade on Fifth Avenue. And here is the underside of what we'll see later the wooden screens that will sweep down. Here's a section of a construction document that shows how he sweeps down this kind of curtain. And I'm not sure if you can see my cursor, but if you can, it's following down here and you enter and then that would screen sweeps up and becomes the balustrade of the mezzanine. So Victor writes, “He created a wood curtain, and in one stroke, starting at the top of the exterior, swept it down past the limited perimeter beam, then down under, lowering the scale of the street level selling space at the perimeter and sweeping it upward to culminate in a railing for the mezzanine.” It was Victor's intention to create beauty in an abundant, luxurious atmosphere. Lundy wrote that the owner leased two stories on a major shopping corner in New York City. The street area was too small for the selling area required by the owner for a high-priced shoe salon. I solved the problem by thinking of the available volume as an entity that was part of the original restrictions and discipline, but the only fixed elements being the existing columns and beams that support the multi storey New York office building above. Here you see that curving wood that becomes the balustrade, meeting the columns. And this is one of -- it's one of my favorite projects and why it's on the cover of the book. This is looking up at the ceiling. And here you see how Lundy could use wood to create beauty. Another interior renovation project completed just a few years later is this singer company showroom of 1965. It began with early drawings investigating the design and then looking at how that form would be deployed in the space. Looking at how different column sizes might meet the ceiling. And he worked out the geometry before computer aided drawing. And often working with timber structures for the fabrication of the wood elements in all of his buildings. He was very interested in how things were made and would visit their fabrication space and sometimes would draw on the floor of the factory at full scale to get the geometry just right. Here, clear Hemlock strips are used to create these wooden pedals. And here you see them up against the curved plaster ceiling. This is a section drawing of the Hartford Unitarian Church of 1964. He first developed this in a clay model and in plan and section. And almost complete image shows how that tent like ceiling of cedar slats hangs from the concrete structural walls. And here we see how the wooden slats of the ceiling intertwine with the vertical pipes of the organ. Christopher Damon again writes in the book, “The 16 churches designed by Lundy are technologically precise and defined by measurable forces in the world, but the resultant spaces are certainly more than a sum of their constituent material parts. It is in these places that material and space oscillate to form an original vision of the world.” Lundy also used small linear wood elements to design the shade structures at the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History in Washington, DC. Here, he designed three suspended squares, each comprised of a series of three 4-inch square western red cedar vertical strips. They're hung on cables in concentric circles. And they create shade below while also being transparent to breezes. Lundy's interested in other materials other than wood. I can't show you all his work tonight, and it's not all in the book, but here at the IBM Garden State Office Building in Cranford, New Jersey of 1964, Lundy shows his interest in masonry. And here this exterior masonry wall appears to really rise from the ground. And here we see the individual unit’s kind of undulating. And the interior looks like wood, but this is a concrete structure, and fiberglass formwork was used to cast this shape. Lundy wanted the interior hall, which was the space where the traveling sales force would reside temporary to be really an inspiring space. Lundy has always had a deep interest in structures, and I'll let you read this yourself. Lundy was also interested in pneumatic structures. This is an early sketch from one of his brains books. In 1960, the Atomic Energy Commission asked Lundy to design an exhibition building that could be moved to various cities in South America as part of the US Atoms for Peace Program. Lundy designed the 22,000 square foot exhibition building, knowing it needed to be shipped, erected, dismantled and shipped again. The notes in his archive show how he explored wood and steel frame before deciding on pneumatics. Victor writes, “I wanted it to be a sassy, unafraid example of US ingenuity.” The building traveled to Buenos Aires, Rio de Janeiro, Lima, Mexico City, Santiago and Bogota. It was then refurbished and went on to travel to Dublin, Tehran, Baghdad and other cities. Victor says the form inspiration was his wife, Anstis, laying on the beach on her side. Victor also designed the space flowers, so called space flowers. After first starting with another clay model to develop his original concept, he worked again with Walter Byrd, a Byrd heir to develop these restroom and hot dog stands for the World's Fair. He revised the design often to kind of reduce the number of curved sections and to gain efficiency in the fabric size. Segmented fabric forms were used to make this globe shape that floats to a height of 75 feet, soaring above the crowds and providing shelter to those below. Here, you can see it from above and they were easy to find. And the fabric allowed the forms to glow at night. Looking up from above they appear as flowers suspended in space with the stitches and fabric joinery, throwing patterns onto the surfaces underneath. Here you see Victor laying on one of those fabric flowers, enjoying them. One of Victor's longest lasting projects was the US Embassy in Colombo, Sri Lanka, from 1961 to 1984. Victor jokes that he was able to fast track a 60,000 square foot office building in a mere 23 years. And this project was truly a study in patience. It was on January of 1961, Lundy, along with Ichiro Mori, an architect who worked in the Foreign Buildings office, traveled to Colombo, then Ceylon, for the first time. This project was a study of patients interrupted by the Vietnam War with alternating ambassadors changes to the building program and size. Many schemes were explored for the embassy. Here a circular scheme that was quickly abandoned. The site was relatively flat, sandwiched between an urban area and the railroad and the Indian Ocean on the west. An early scheme was a large rectangular block. He had been encouraged to make a simple flat roof yet both Lundy and the current ambassador wanted something that really spoke more of the local culture. And after a design review, we see this sketch in one of his brain’s books showing a sloped roof. And really, Lundy studied the lattice work and traditional woodwork in India and Ceylon. He completed numerous paintings and sketches, including this painting that shows the kind of play of light and shadow. This charcoal sketch really describes the roofs that he found to be kind of beautifully framed. And he wrote a great steep shelter and shade roofs that sweep down to the low eaves in one of his brain's books. This early section sketch show how Lundy studied the views enjoyed by both standing and sitting occupants as they looked out windows and the balconies that he later developed. After the initial trip in 1961, the project was put on hold and a new contract was signed in 1977. By that time, the British colony had had gone from a British colony in 1948 to an independent country of Ceylon and then it became known as Sri Lanka in 1972. Here we see the wood screening that he studied kind of evident on this model image. The construction document drawings were drawn in Houston while Lundy was teaching at the University of Houston, where I currently teach. Lundy put together a first-rate team in Houston, including colossal engineers for the Structural Engineering and I.A. Naman and Associates for the Civil Mechanical Engineering. And the design work began in earnest. This final basket model shows a sloping sheltering roof and teak detailing on the long elevation. In 2014, Lundy donated this model to the National Building Museum in Washington, DC. Teak was used extensively in Sri Lanka and Lundy really appreciate how weather to a beautiful seaside grey finish. He worked to detail his teak screens incorporating the elements that he documented in his brain's books and other numerous sketches and working out the various elements of his details. Lundy even made a prototype connection detail that pulled apart to show the Sri Lankans how to build the screens. His understanding of those local details were transformed into the modern word screens that were built and the embassy building. Those wood screens contrast to the four-inch-thick bush hammered stone that covers the concrete frame. In his contract, he was not permitted or paid to supervise construction, but he was allowed one last inspection trip when the building was finished, he wrote on May 13, 1984, in a note to his wife. When the taxi turned the corner and I knew I would finally see it. I really and truly did not know what to expect. It was either cardiac arrest or a shout of joy. It was a shout of joy. The completed project was published in Architecture magazine in July 1984, and in 1988 the US Embassy in Colombo was selected from more than 500 submissions and received the Federal Design Achievement Award, the National Endowment for the Art’s Highest honor in Design. In the book, the chapter on the US Tax Court building was co-authored by Joan Brereton and Sarah Gardner. They are both preservation specialists and also were both instrumental in the building being placed on the National Register of Historic Places and the GSA film Sculpture Space. If you haven't seen it, it's available on YouTube. here in this early massing sketch from a brains book. You can see the separate volumes for each of the three courtrooms. Another sketch shows the central plaza. This project was also impacted by the Vietnam War, put on hold until 1971, and then the site was moved one block west. The groundbreaking was in 1972 and it was completed in 1974, and the project received a GSA Honor Award before it was built in 1972 and the first biennial design awards program. The exterior is clad in flame, treated royal purple granite from Georgia. The 252-foot-wide courtroom cantilevers 26 feet and is appropriately intimidating as you walk up the steps to the tax court. The Interior Hall of Justice is an elegant entry space. With pedestrian bridges that are in the background that contain 145 post tension steel cables that connect to the columns at the rear building that help hold up the cantilevered courtrooms. An elegant solution that Lundy worked through with Severin Perrone, Stern and Vandal Structural Engineering now Severed Associates. Those vertical teak fins bring a warmth to the space that's more easily shown in this contemporary snapshot I took a couple of years ago. It's a beautiful building and beautifully maintained by GSA. And when looking out through those slender, bronze, anodized, aluminum framed window wall towards the plaza. That was completed in 1981 and recently renovated, You can see that connection to the exterior. Lundy said, this building is a culminating work in my career as an architect. It is a building of its time and it is timeless. Lundy moved his practice to Texas in the 1970s. He also designed much larger institutional commercial buildings and later served as vice president and design principal at HKS Inc in the 1980s and 1990s. He designed several smaller independent projects in Houston, including a studio for his wife. A later addition to that studio that was their home and his current home. Here you see the interior of that home from the living room looking at the studio space. That was the original building. And then from the garden, looking back into the house. He designed the Joan Miller house. Here you see the house from its garden and then inside, looking back out at the garden. And the studio space for himself. This is that interior, and this is where all of his drawings and the brains books were all located before they moved to the Library of Congress. And all of that work has been replaced with the new owner's car collection. And I know Mari mentioned briefly a little bit about the archives, but I wanted to impress on all of you the vastness of the collection. So 56,000 items, some of them are rolls of drawings. Some of them are sketches on tracing paper. These are just snapshots that I took while looking at some of the collection. An early sketch of the US Tax Court Building. These are not scanned but they're available to look at. Here is a construction document. And what's so great is they have the tidal block so you can see who all of the team members were. You see dates, you get some really particular information. And then there are the boxes of the 221 brains books. These boxes contain these 8.5 by 11 hardbound sketchbooks, and inside there are notes to himself with sketches or details. There's phone memos, slips of paper slipped in and inserted into the pages. And you can see him working out details and the exact dimensions of building elements. As I mentioned, I traveled with Victor in 2016 to see Mari and his archives at the Library of Congress. It was a bit odd to have Victor wear these white gloves to touch the drawings that he himself had drawn years ago. But it was a sincere delight to have him share the stories of the building designs with us in a room surrounded by his work. Thank you, Victor, for allowing us all to have access to this large collection of beautiful drawings and the information about the incredible buildings that you have designed. Happy birthday. Mari, I'll turn it over to you. >> Mari Nakahara: Well, thank you very much. Our wonderful guest speaker, Donna. I confess that I probably served 1,000 of the drawings and the item to not only the Donna, but also other researchers. But my observation and then during the service is always quick. Oh, can they show everything in a timely manner, and then I could barely see the drawings closely. But this show was a wonderful opportunity for me to re-run about Lundy’s work. And then the more and the more I see those materials, the more I develop my enthusiasm to learn about and love Lundy's work and love to him. Well, before we answer the questions, I have two important announcements. First, as you see here. Donna, can you go back, please? Victor Lundy Agile case display is on view at the Library's Thomas Jefferson Building until April 3rd, 2023, this year. If you are local or you have a chance to come to DC, please stop by and look at the display. Remember March and -- late March and April, the cherry blossom at the tidal base in DC are very beautiful, so you may just combine this opportunity to come to the library. Second announcement is the tour of the US tax Court. Thanks to John and Sarah GSA. And of course, this is designed by Victor, and the tour will be held on February 14 this year, 2 to 3 p.m. Unfortunately, this is for the people who are in Washington DC or happen to have a chance to come to DC on the 14th. And registration is required via the link shown in the chat. So hope you can join it. We also have some quick housekeeping. Although we will be answering to your questions as much as possible, you may also send your questions any time after the presentation to Ask a Librarian. If you wish to explore our collections more, you can, of course, visit the Prints and Photographs division to look at it but appointment recommended, of course, it's our process or you can visit the Prints and photographs Division Online Catalogue whose link is also in the chat. We also appreciate it if you take a minute to fill out the survey, which will pop up when you click on the red button. Don't do that now, please, when you exit from the presentation. Your input will help us develop our future programs. That being shown in the link -- I'm sorry. In the chat for our tour and orientation page, which is regularly updated. Our next webinar will be held at 3 p.m. on February 15 next month. The topic is Japanese Evacuation order. So now finally, we can move to the questions. Sara, do you see any questions in Q&A? >> Sara Duke: Yes, I do. Thank you, Mari and thank you, Donna, for your very interesting and thorough presentation about Victor Lundy's work. The first question is, unfortunately, I always find myself asking how much of the belt work survives today. >> Donna Kacmar: Well, I can answer that quite a bit. I mean, certainly the US Tax Court Building is in beautiful shape and there are many buildings in Sarasota. The drive-in church was a quickly built project and it was demolished in 1965, There's actual in the book and I've just opened it up to that page because it lists all of the projects that were completed. There's the Sarasota County Chamber of Commerce Building is still existing. The Bridge Presbyterian Church. I didn't talk about the South- gate community centers there. There's a couple of residences. The Heron House is beautifully maintained, so quite a bit. I wish the I Miller shoe store was still around, I would like to go there myself. So there's still quite a variety of Lundy buildings that are surviving; the Sierra Blanca Ski Center complex and Ruidoso, New Mexico, is still there. I would say a lot of these buildings need our love and support. His congregations and his clients were young themselves, and so the ability to maintain them and care for these buildings because they're now, you know, 50, 70 years old, they need love and attention. So any support you can provide is probably very much appreciated. >> Sara Duke: The next question is his parents were Russian immigrants likely Jewish. Did he identify as Jewish? Did he design any synagogues? >> Donna Kacmar: You know, I don't think he designed any synagogues and his religion people have asked because he designed so many churches, was he a very religious man? And I don't think he was particularly religious. I think he was really inspired by the clients, by the sites and the kind of forms and spaces he could make for that building type. >> Sara Duke: The third question in the Q&A is, hello, Mari. Joan Brereton here. Thank you so much to you and the library and to Donna for organizing this presentation. My question is, how rare is it to have an architect visit their work at the library for an architect to donate and oversee the donation while still living? Thank you, Joan. >> Mari Nakahara: Sorry to laugh because -- well, I have to confess, I took this position about 80 years ago, and my predecessor called Petrus, one of the authors of this Victor Lundy’s book collected about four million items during his career, about over 40 years. So I barely actually acquire the things, especially from the architects or designers artist who are still alive. But in my time at the Prints and the Photographs Division, the architect was probably Lundy Victor, but a few photographers and illustrators I have met as a creator for the archive exists. And then I also used to work at the different architecture archives. So those times that I have met the creators whose archives concluded to be at the Library of Congress, such as both of our club who passed away. I met him at the different office I used to work, so I would say quite a few. But as you know, that I do say majority of the time, it's kind of usual that we may collect -- we may have an agreement, we may indeed collect after the deceased or but again, that not that rare to meet with the creators coming to the library or the depository. That's my answer. But I may have to add a little episode. When Victor came over, Victor told me first day looking at me and said, Mari, I don't know why I gave these materials to the Library of Congress. And as a new curator, that was only probably half year later, after I took a job, I step back and what am I supposed to say? What am I supposed to respond to this person? And then I was quiet and I said, Well, Victor, but we are very happy. I see we have been receiving many researchers and your collections are safe. He came back next day. He apologized and said, Mari, I am very happy. My corrections are here, that I am very happy to -- my materials are saved and used for many people. So I feel like this is my effort and then I have to make such an effort and enthusiasm to preserve well and make this collection accessible to many people. >> Sara Duke: We have a little bit of a conversation going on in the chat. Christopher asks, can I give a plug to the architecture Sarasota mod weekend in November? And I assume that's November of 2023. And all I can say is, Christopher, if you put it into the Q&A link, I can put it into the chat for you. >> Mari Nakahara: He has already put it into the chat right now. >> Sara Duke: Okay. All right. Oh, and that way everybody can see it. >> Mari Nakahara: Any other questions coming in? >> Donna Kacmar: May I ask a question? I'm curious to know if Lundy's wood designs in particular Spurred any kind of engineering innovations. They seem very innovative. I wonder if new techniques had to be developed to build any of his structures. Well, he certainly worked with engineers and others who were very interested in being innovative. And it was also a different -- when he first started, he was a young architect in Sarasota, Florida, after World War Two. He's very optimistic and he's also working in an area largely second homes, kind of young congregations, people who are very accepting of kind of new ideas and taking a few risks. I mean, I mention maybe this isn't in Sarasota, but up in Connecticut, the church that build a sweeping curved roof, they couldn't afford to build the whole building, but they chose to build this beautiful roof instead of enclosing the whole building. I don't know many building groups that would choose to do that today, right. It was just a different, more experimental time, I think, in architecture in general, in the country in general, not as much litigation, that kind of thing. It certainly -- he was at the beginning of what people do now with laminated wood structures that can do all kinds of things. But he was doing this before AutoCAD, before BIM, before the tools were there to do this kind of easily, right? He was doing it the hard way. And I think that people I see buildings that are done now and I go, hmm, did that person look at Lundy? He wasn't as well-known maybe as some of his contemporaries, but his work is so beautiful. And I think it's certainly inspiring to me today. So it must have been inspiring in the 50s and 60s. And his work was really well published in an architectural forum and architecture magazine. So he was well known by his contemporaries. But that's a great book topic. Somebody else could go to the Library of Congress and unearth it and make the argument for the connectivity of some of his design work whom has built work to newer building forms and contemporary buildings. >> Sara Duke: There's another question that's come into the chat. I am curious what kind of art his wife created. >> Donna Kacmar: Beautiful watercolors. I imagine she did other media, but she certainly did these really beautiful watercolors. I remember seeing one of her paintings. It was of a light bulb, if you can imagine the kind of clarity of an incandescent light bulb. Beautiful, beautiful drawings. So she did beautiful watercolors for years. She was also very gracious and a lot of fun. >> Sara Duke: Another question has appeared in the Q&A. Donna, how do your students in Houston respond to Lundy's work or to the amount of hand drawing and the artistry in the renderings? >> Donna Kacmar: I would say they're blown away. In the book, I talk -- so he taught here. I didn't know that he was actually a -- I wasn't here when he was teaching here, but my husband was and my husband is an architect. And he actually had Lundy as a professor. And one of my quotes, it's in the book, it's in one of the notations. But he told students, you know, for God's sake, design something worth building. And I think that straightforwardness of Victor about what is beauty and about building kind of still resonates with students and they're certainly blown away by the drawings. We had an exhibition here of some of his drawings that he had at his house that didn't quite make it in the first shipment to the Library of Congress. And we had an exhibit here at the University Houston. There were big drawings, and the students were really impressed by his control. He always had this kind of amazing hand and could convey ideas just so quickly and so beautifully to his clients and to others. >> Sara Duke: There's a question that's come into the chat. Has anyone taken advantage of his modular designs to, say, make prefabricated homes? >> Donna Kacmar: I don't know that they have. They haven't and let Victor know about it. They might have been inspired by something, but not a clear relationship between them. But some of his ideas could certainly be contemporary today. I have a friend who saw the renovation of the Plaza, which had some kind of construction at the US Tax Court Building, and he really thought that the US Tax Court Building was just finishing construction. It's that contemporary, it's that current. And I think a lot of his work remains that way. >> Mari Nakahara: Sara, do you see more questions? >> Sara Duke: Yes, there is. I'm going to -- there's two more. First one is in the chat. Hello, how do you conserve disposable materials like manila envelopes? >> Mari Nakahara: It may be a question to us. We have great conservators who are familiar with the materials and we also have our research and the testing sections which you see the envelope on the display page and markers and the pencils or pens and the different media on that. So we always consult with the conservators and then find out the best way to preserve 100 to 100 years from now to make these things available in the future generation. So I can't tell exactly how, but that's the way that I can tell what the people-- and you know, if you are interested in learning more that I can actually ask the conservator, as a matter of fact, that this item is on the display at the library right now and the treated by the conservator after the testing. So I can get more information by that. But please send that question by Ask a Librarian. >> Donna Kacmar: And that question really speaks to the kind of delicate-ness of some of the pieces. I mean, there were some drawings that I wanted scanned that needed to be fixed or not fixed, but made stable before they could scan them for inclusion in the book. And I love this image that Mari selected of Lundy drawing on the back of an envelope, right? He's like, you can imagine him just like thinking these ideas through and just really wanting to document it is like, what do I have? I've got an envelope. I'll draw this idea out because it was so in his head and he wanted to get it down. And he writes to that to the importance of drawing as a way of figuring out the ideas. And it's through the drawing that the architecture kind of form comes. And Mari maybe you can speak to this. It's kind of tangential to that question, but I think you remember saying that some items are in cold storage and that is truly cold storage, right? A lower temperature. >> Mari Nakahara: Yes, we have different types of cold storage depending on the media. But for instance, we have Prints and Photographs Division collects like tons of 75% of our collections are photography related and nitrate. These films are very low temperature, cold storage and slides are kind of a little bit of the medium type of the cold storage. So we have a different cold storage. So making the effort to preserve many things for the long term. But you know, as you see manila envelope architects specifically, I would say I have seen many, many sketches, wonderful sketches, for instance, on the napkins, as you know, as a famous story, just, you know, scrap papers. And they don't think that their sketches are what will be preserved for the next 100 years or 200 years. So it's been a challenge, but we have been making the effort. >> Donna Kacmar: Well, it's so amazing that there is somebody caring and taking care of all of this. And it's an amazing collection. And it's not just Victor Lundy's collection, right, there's so much there. It's kind of overwhelming. >> Sara Duke: There's one last question in the Q&A, and that is did Lundy teach or lecture at Catholic University at some point? >> Donna Kacmar: I don't know the answer to that. I know he taught in California, and he used it to kind of bridge when he was in the East Coast and his projects were put on hold because of the Vietnam War. He used teaching as a little bit of a bridge for his young practice. But I don't know every place he went and every place he lectured. He was very you know, he was invited a lot of places. I don't know all of the notes, and I certainly haven't gone through all of his brains books and all of it to find that answer. But it seems like he might, if it was doing something for the US Tax Court Building in Washington, DC. It seems likely that he could. Maybe somebody at the university, the Catholic University of America, has those archives of who's lectured there. >> Mari Nakahara: Well, thanks, Donna. And then time is exceeded after eight but I'd like to throw a big question to you. I personally feel that Victor Lundy deserves to be recognized and more well known by many range of the people. But how do you kind of position him in the architectural field? Don't you think, like don't you agree with me that he should be more appreciated? Why he didn't become like as well known like Eames or like Paul Rudolph or those people? >> Donna Kacmar: Well, he was competing with Paul Rudolph. They were classmates and had a kind of a healthy competition. I think Victor was very focused on the work and not necessarily on getting work and getting recognition. He wanted to be published. He wanted to win design awards because he submitted for design awards. But that wasn't the driver. The making of the building was the driver for him. And in order to become -- well, and I also think he was from a slightly different era before marketing and this kind of publishing and self-promotion kind of happening at a small office and was just focused on the work. I can't imagine going back and forth between New York and Sarasota in the early 1960s so much. I mean, that's a lot to keep two offices going and doing all these projects. I also think that his as he shifted from these smaller projects to the larger US Tax Court Building and the embassy in Sri Lanka, those took up kind of his work and so he put all of his efforts in those boxes. And I think there were some lean years in there. So having a consistent workload is hard for a small architecture firm, and then it's hard to also have a mechanism for promotion. So but I also think his personality was such that he was really focused on the work and thought people would recognize good work when they saw it. And they often did. And it's a shame he's not better recognized. I think he needs another book. I think somebody here in the audience should write another book about Victor Lundy. There's plenty of materials in the Library of Congress to help you do so. >> Mari Nakahara: Thanks for the advice. So are more questions coming or not? >> Sara Duke: I have two more questions. Do you feel like you have time to answer them or would you want me to encourage people to send them to the Ask a Librarian? >> Donna Kacmar: Well, I'm happy that [inaudible] >> Mari Nakahara: -- positive person. >> Sara Duke: So the first question is, thank you for this amazing event, Donna and Mari. I had a question about Victor's pneumatic work. Did he ever express interest in pursuing inflatables after the New York World's Fair? His contributions with Byrd were so extraordinary. Whitney Moon. >> Donna Kacmar: Hi, Whitney. I don't know. I'm just trying to think of the exact dates he wrote -- He participated in a symposium on pneumatics in 1967 in Stuttgart, and he wrote an essay with a lot of structural engineers. I don't know if it was the project type that was appropriate for pneumatics didn't come together again, I think. I don't think he did any other projects, but he wrote about pneumatics. And so he you'll see in his work there's the project that he's kind of -- I mean, he's a thoughtful man and he writes about the things that he does afterwards, trying to understand them and kind of move them forward, kind of always working, not necessarily for the next project just to increase his own understanding. So thank you for that and for what you've written about Lundy and his nomadic architecture. >> Mari Nakahara: Well, let me chip in then, Whitney, he was one of the researchers whom I served, and her writing is linked to the guide that Sarah just posted the link. This is the wide ADE architecture, design and engineering collection we call the Search Guide. But if you go to the collection section and the Select Archive section and Victor Lundy, you will see many articles on Lundy or Lundy's work and the Witney’s writing is linked to that section FYI. >> Donna Kacmar: Yeah. And so Whitney Moon, who teaches at the University of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, has written about Victor Lundy's pneumatic architecture, as has Susanna Baber, who's a faculty member at Texas A&M. And so it's interesting that people are writing about his pneumatics and in such an interesting way. >> Sara Duke: Is there a book or books you would recommend to read about Lundy I guess, besides Donna's book, which we discussed this evening? >> Donna Kacmar: "Victor Lundy Artist, Architect." And there are a lot of articles written about him Architecture Forum, architecture publications about his work. Some blogs, but certainly the book "Victor Lundy Artist Architect" is the place to start, but also Google Whitney Moon's writing about his pneumatics. >> Mari Nakahara: Again, those resources are also available through this research guide. So please take a look. >> Sara Duke: Thank you all. What a wonder and a contribution. If you are interested in helping to support or restore a Lundy project, St PaulSarasota.org could use your help. There are three Lundy buildings on the site and part of historic preservation. >> Donna Kacmar: Yeah. And that's the St Paul's Fellowship hall, and then ten years later, he designed the sanctuary. But he also designed an education building on that same campus in Sarasota. And they're kicking off their funding for their renovation efforts to make sure the building can last another generation or two, right? >> Sara Duke: Forgive me. And aside from the collection, are you aware of surviving films showing Lundy's interiors that no longer survive as they were experienced by visitors like the Amazing Pneumatics and Shoe Store? >> Donna Kacmar: I don't know of any, but gosh, wouldn't that be fantastic to-- and I don't know and maybe Mari knows if there are any videos in the Lundy archive collection. There's a lot of slides and a lot of still photos and negatives, but I don't know if there's any like reel to reels. And you've got to imagine somebody was at the World's Fair with an early version of some kind of video camera and somebody was at the US atomic energy that somebody went to the shoe store you know, in New York. I mean it's in somebody's home collection right in their attic or something. Well, I don't know of that, but it would be amazing to see that. >> Mari Nakahara: I am not aware of the video besides that GSA video that talking about the US Tax Court. But, Donna, you may recall that recently, that recording of the podcast USModernist Radio. This is also listed under Victor Lundy in a research guide and the USModernist Radio has been doing the interview series and Donna and Victor was on that, so that is the recording. And not really related to the architecture that much but Lundy’s life in the military days Libraries Witness History Project have an interview with the Victor Lundy, which is also script available and voice available. So you learn about Victor as a nature, his nature, especially in the military time, which is also the state. Books are listed, so I will search more. But when I was creating this research guide, I probably served around many collections then, at least in the library that we may not have any videos showing Victor in it or talking about his project, but I can search more. And then if I find any, I will just add it to this guide. So please keep looking. >> Donna Kacmar: Yeah. And my hope is that like something like this. Victor Lundy, turning 100 years old, allows people the time to like they search through some things. I'm still hoping that somebody somewhere has more of his World War Two sketchbooks. And you know, when a family member passes, they might look through it and they might say, oh, and then that might go to the Library of Congress. So maybe somebody out there will go through some home videos of the World's Fair and find some video of his Space flowers or something. That would be a great birthday present for Victor. >> Mari Nakahara: It would be your project, Donna. >> Donna Kacmar: Well, thank you, Mari. This has been great to visit with you and with many contributors and Lundy lovers and help celebrate his 100 years and the kind of beautiful images and beautiful buildings he's given us all. >> Mari Nakahara: Well, thank you again. And our wonderful guest, you Donna, and very much thankful to everybody for joining today's presentation. And last but not least, we had hoped that Lundy could even speak a little bit but it didn't happen. But I would like to Lundy to know Happy birthday. And we all wish you a long and healthy life.